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Mini vs Mustang - Badger
Here's a nice one.

On 'Modern Antiques' tonight, Alan Titchmarsh and James May drew comparisons between the original Mini and the Steve McQueen/Bullitt Ford Mustang. Which was the better car, they asked the studio audience.

Seems to me there's no contest. Could the Mustang (with or without McQueen) have done The Italian Job?
Mini vs Mustang - THe Growler
...or more to the point, could the Mini have cut the Bullitt mustard?
Mini vs Mustang - madux
...or more to the point, could the Mini have cut the
Bullitt mustard?

Probably yes. They rallied Mustangs in the sixties, but never came even close to winning the Monte Carlo.
Mini vs Mustang - PhilW
"They rallied Mustangs in the sixties, but never came even close to winning the Monte Carlo."

Don't care - Mustang for me for looks and sound!
And don't tell me the Mustang wouldn't pull the birds better! (not that it makes much difference now - but it would have been a major consideration in the '60s!!!!)
Mini vs Mustang - Altea Ego
The Mustang. The mini was nothing special, wasnt a cooper or a really early one,
Mini vs Mustang - PhilW
"a major consideration in the '60s!!!!)"

Due to the fact that my Triumph Palm Beach bike (push not motor!!) seemed to impress the girls about as much as my personality and looks did - mind you was it my mate's Mini that seemed to ensure his relative success???

Mini vs Mustang - THe Growler
Well as some of you may remember I still have this '69 Mussie 351 hanging around (see the HJ photosite). It remains gorgeous to look at, all shape and form and muscle and wouldn't give a rat's posterior about some Matchbox toy of a Mini.

What a ridiculous comparison anyway.
Mini vs Mustang - madux
There was a classic black and white film shown on (Channel 4's?) Great Sporting Moments a few years ago. 5.7litre Mustang being beaten on the old Crystal Palace circuit by.......an HB Viva!
Mini vs Mustang - SlidingPillar
it was BBC actually, 100 Great Sporting Moments.

No other ranking, no discussions, just the "moment". An Escort, by the way not a Viva was the UK car.

The point about this race was the two cars, although they were ahead of the rest of the field, there literally was nothing to chose between them. The Mustang (I'm not sure it was not a Ford Galaxy as well by the way) was way faster that Escort is a straight line, but absolutly useless going round corners. As a result the leadership changed several times each lap. In fact I've never seen a car race leadership change as often.



Mini vs Mustang - JH
I remember that one. It was a Mk1 Escort, couldn't say about the American car, though I tend to think it was a Galaxy as you suggest. One of them (the Escort ?) had his right turn indicator going all the way round. I couldn't decide if it was oversight or just darned cheeky ! :-)

How do we gang up and get BBC to repeat it ?

John
Mini vs Mustang - Altea Ego
Yes it was a Ford galaxy (and no thats not a people carrier all you young whiper snappers) they were popular in touring cars of the day,
Mini vs Mustang - SjB {P}
Galaxie, I thought.
Mini vs Mustang - Altea Ego
Good afternoon Mr Pedant, Of course I thnk you are right.

Were they not Aussie beasts?
Mini vs Mustang - helicopter
Crystal Palace was such a tight circuit that it used to be very difficult overtaking anywhere.It closed around 1973.

I went there regularly and I saw Jochen Rindt and Jackie Stewart competing.

A favourite memory is of the final bend in IIRC a Formula Ford race when three cars approached the bend and third place decided it was now or never , dived in and took first and second off allowing the guy in fourth through to win. I wish I could remember the driver names but it is getting on for 35 years ago.

It caused the best punch up I have ever seen outside the boxing ring.
Mini vs Mustang - helicopter
A quick google shows my memory was not as good as I thought , it was a F3 race but this was the incident I saw, I should have remembered at least one of the names.....

From a history of the Crystal Palace track.

'The final event in October was immortalised by the BBC when the Formula 3 final was won by Dave Walkers Lotus, but this was overshadowed by James Hunt climbing from his car and knocking out Dave Morgan in the middle of the track after a last corner incident. Dave Morgan was later found guilty of reckless driving by the RAC, and was fined and banned, while everyone knows what happened to James Hunt.'

Mini vs Mustang - BazzaBear {P}
A quick google shows my memory was not as good as
I thought , it was a F3 race but this was
the incident I saw, I should have remembered at least one
of the names.....

I see what you mean. Dave Morgan is a household name! ;)
Mini vs Mustang - THe Growler
Jack Sears I think it was drove the Galaxie. Brands, c.1966
Mini vs Mustang - madux
I think you are right on all points SP - I was hoping someone would come along to correct me.
Closest saloon car race I saw was at Thruxton in about 1976.
3litre Capri versus Dolomite Sprint, the lead changed every lap for the whole race, the Crapi faster on the straights, the Dolomite quicker round the bends. Two very well known drivers. Racking my brains to remember............Chris Craft & Doc Murphy? No, they were the Ford Anglia guys who beat the mk2 Jags in the sixties.
Mini vs Mustang - Altea Ego
Lets see who was about then. too early For Rob Gravet or Andy Rouse?
Mini vs Mustang - madux
Was it Tom Walkinshaw in the Crapi and.............?
Mini vs Mustang - madux
Andy Rouse in the Dolomite!
Got there in the end.
Now where's my Horlicks......
Mini vs Mustang - Altea Ego
YEH - RF gets half a point - That was from memory too, no googling there!. If there was any close racing or door handle banging going on in the 70's 80's and early 90's then Andy Rouse was always there or there abouts. Did he not start driving the Sierra XR4i with the chip cutter wings later?
Mini vs Mustang - madux
Remember Gerry Marshall? Sat next to him on a flight to the Isle of Man when I was timekeeping in the 1976 Manx Tophy Rally. He was making a film for Castrol, or something, and managed to roll his Firenza, ending up across the road with the bonnet and boot on top of the hedges and the roof hanging above the road. The night before, he had approached a courting couple in Douglas, tapped the man on the shoulder and asked "Excuse me, what time does scrutineering start?"
Roger Clarke won, of course. Despite rolling his car on the first stage. I remember Cahal Curley in his mis-firing 911 (4mpg!) and Billy Coleman in his Escort sideways for most of the (90% tarmac) rally.
Ah, memories!