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Computer related questions. Volume 24 - No Do$h

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SP2 Alert - frostbite
Whoever was enquiring about SP2, and hopefully not installed it yet, should look at Ceefax p116 where problems are reported, including a long list of programs that don't run properly/at all.

What a surprise!
SP2 Alert - Baskerville
Here's the list:

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=842242

Many of these conflicts are trivial in that the new default firewall rules will just need to be adjusted--whether the average Windows user can make changes to those settings safely is another matter. Many of the the problems are to do with file and printer sharing and most of those issues won't bother anyone with a single PC (SP2 for single consumer PCs hasn't yet appeared from MS anyway). It's inevitable that some third-party software will be broken by this as it is often either badly written or simply uses W3C agreed standards to which Microsoft does not subscribe, but it is surprising that some of the broken programs are Microsoft's own.
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
>>Many of these conflicts are trivial>>

I was just about to also post the MS KB 842242 link as well for frostbite...:-)

However, there's also:

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&pro...2

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=875357

and support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=875351

One that my son, an IT support specialist, has found is that you can't boot up Windows after installing SP2...

SP2 Alert - Baskerville
Wow.

A lot of what MS is doing here is making things more secure that should have been secured in the first place (though blocking a port is not as secure as not running an unnecessary service on that port). And given the complexity and infinite number of variations in terms of what is installed on a PC, actual conflicts are inevitable.

I fear that for many people the way round this will be to disable the firewall, but apparently (don't know, haven't tried it) it's also possible for other applications to switch off the Windows Firewall, which doesn't sound very secure to me. So we should wait for a round of dodgy emails containing a program to "automatically configure" your firewall to make everything work again after SP2...
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
will be to disable the firewall >>


The original XP firewall was not as good as, for instance, the free version of ZoneAlarm and most people switched it off.

SP2 has, it seems, a "security centre", where you can enable/disable or configure the firewall, popup stopper etc as required.
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
By the way, WindowsUpdate will install the smaller version of SP2 for home users from tomorrow (Wednesday).

More info at:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3571110.stm
SP2 Alert - Baskerville
I was thinking that the people an on-by-default firewall is aimed at are the people who don't have a third-party firewall--just like my nextdoor neighbour who didn't even know what one was until last month when his computer "became very slow" and I had to explain why. Agree the original "block incoming but not outgoing" firewall was poor, especially given the known propensity of Windows to collect spyware.
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
ChrisR

That's one of the reasons, as you obviously realise, why MS is attempting to deliver a far more security conscious approach to XP with SP2 - the irony is that it shouldn't really have had to take such steps in the first place.
SP2 Alert - Mark (RLBS)
Computer related questions please, not a discussion thread.

Thank you.
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
I forecast a barrowload of SP2 related questions here over the coming weeks...:-)
SP2 Alert - J Bonington Jagworth
This isn't a question, but it is a partial answer to anyone brave/daft enough to download SP2 sooner rather than later.

MS has already started to issue patches for it. To quote from their latest: "This hotfix requires Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)"

Now what was that about refreshments and breweries..?
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
>>to anyone brave/daft enough to download SP2 sooner rather than later.>>

Come on, play fair! This is a comparatively minor problem that's unlikely to affect too many XP users with SP2 installed:

support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5...0

You'll find any number of such fixes on Microsoft's Support pages which only have to be installed if that particular, occasional, problem is experienced.
SP2 Alert - Baskerville
Just out of interest--assuming you are using SP2 now Stuart--if you alreadyhave a third-party firewall, what does SP2 add to the XP experience? Genuinely interested as I haven't used Windows on a regular basis for over a year and can keep it secure enough o with it. I'm considering not bothering with SP2 if there is a possibility of having to reinstall the whole darn thing (I've heard a couple of horror stories).
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
>>if you already have a third-party firewall, what does SP2 add to the XP experience?>>

Not yet - tomorrow night probably as my son, an IT support specialist, downloaded it a few days ago (he has broadband) and has burned it to disk for me.

I wouldn't worry about your firewall as all the security measures in XP2 can be disabled via a Security Panel, including XP's own (upgraded) firewall.

I'll be sticking with the excellent free version of ZoneAlarm.

By the way my son did have one problem - rebooting after installing SP2, but apparently it's something already known and a second reboot solved it.

Will know more soon...
SP2 Alert - Baskerville
I'm not worried about my firewall--it's not running on that machine anyway-- I just wondered whether it added anything useful that I can't get elsewhere.
SP2 Alert - Stuartli
>>anything useful that I can't get elsewhere.>>

In view of Mark's request - mind you, you do need a working computer system to get onto this forum! - I'll just point you in the direction of these links:

tinyurl.com/3upjr

tinyurl.com/3px4o
SP2 Alert - Baskerville
Thanks Stuart

I was rather hoping you would have been able let me know what it's 'like' in more personal sense--the MS information/marketing is something else entirely--but it seems that is forbidden. Do you know of a good independent forum where this is being discussed and I can go and see what people are saying? Might as well look at their ads as these ones.

Thanks again.
SP2 Alert - J Bonington Jagworth
"This is a comparatively minor problem"

Agreed, but it's indicative of a certain lack of readiness, wouldn't you say? The release for XP Pro isn't even out yet (it's just been put back a week), but patches are already being issued, including advice to those who don't need them to "wait for the *next* service pack" (my emphasis).

It just annoys me that the most profitable software company on Earth has the organisational ability of a pack of squirrels!
SP2 Alert - Mark (RLBS)
Enough.

This is for questions. Questions to help people using computers. You are now starting on discussions, and discussions that would be better in a dedicated computer forum.

Please desist, its not how this thread was intended to be used.
SP2 Alert - Citroënian {P}
Do questions like :-

What does XP SP2 do for me?

fit in with your idea of what this thread is about?

Fair enough, questions along the lines of "Bill Gates - Booo" are a waste of everyone's time.

A blanket stop request confuses things.
--
Lee
MINI adventure in progress
SP2 Alert - Mark (RLBS)
Why does everybody need everything explained to the nth degree these days, what happened to a bit of common sense ?

This is not a computing forum, this is a motoring forum. It is for people to discuss things pertaining to motoring. In the course of using their computer to do such a thing, they may have difficulties.

If they have difficulties, then they are welcome to ask them here.

Long-ass discussions about the merits of this piece of software or patch or similar are more appropriate in a computer forum, not here.

If you can work out what is or is not appropriate here then you'll have no problems. If you can't then clearly the thread, after 24 iterations, is inappropriate and I shall remove it.

I do not come in here to read pages and pages about computers.

Clear enough rule for you ?
SP2 Alert - J Bonington Jagworth
According to ZDnet: "It's such incompatibilities that have prompted IBM to advise its staff to not install the service pack for fear it might conflict with business-critical applications."

Not much point in being a guinea-pig...
What PC DVD Player? - THe Growler
...is best? I have been using PowerDVD (hopeless) and InterActual (not a lot better). I run DVD Region-free to get over that tiresome problem of one region not talking to another.

I am presently on a trial version of WinDVD, which seems to be a vast improvement, i.e. it will play anything I throw at it (yes, yes, mainly pirate stuff from Indonesia, well who wants to pay an extortionate price for something you watch only once or twice when you can get it here on the street for about 80p? Makes no sense).

WinDVD is $69.95 which is a bit hefty but they throw in a backup CD as well. Is there anything else I could/should be looking at?
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
>>PowerDVD (hopeless)>>

I used PowerDVD (version 5 at present) and find it excellent.

Have you tried downloading the update patch for it from Cyberlink's download section on its website? There are similar patches for previous versions.
What PC DVD Player? - THe Growler
Every time I tried PowerDVD (apart from its stupid looking menu panel) it kept coming up saying I had to load a decoder (huh?)whatever that is. No indication of what that is or where to find it. If I could find the pimple nerd who wrote that message I would cheerfully strangle him.

Gave up. Seems these darn programs want you to work for them instead of the other way around. I mean, why can't you just stuff the disk in, press play and away we go? Why all these arcane pointless menu options which you (or I anyway) can't understand and have no earthly use for? Let alone the rocketship menus with Egyptian heiroglyphics for menu buttons, all of whose weird symbols are virtually unintelligible, instead of a proper list in plain English. If I wanted that stuff I'd go and watch Startrek re-runs. This is the year 2004, yet mankind appears to have trouble making a DVD run on a PC.

I hate technology for its own sake, rather than user-friendly (what a horrible expression, if you aren't making your stuff user-friendly you should be out of business).

Anyway I think I'll be shelling out on WinDVD, at least it treats me like an adult.

Time for a tincture......


What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
I presume you are using a DVD-ROM drive...

You can change the skins for PowerDVD if you don't like the default version.

I can play DVDs either in PowerDVD or Windows Media Player9 - DVD needs to be enabled from Tools>Options>File types.

If you are not prepared to correctly configure software or utilities you can't really complain if they don't work as expected.
What PC DVD Player? - THe Growler
>>>>>>If you are not prepared to correctly configure software or utilities you can't really complain if they don't work as expected.

My contention is you shouldn't have to do that stuff. You buy the software, at$49.95 ++ it should work as it boastfully says on the label without any work from me. Hell, we've landed on Mars I do believe. I don't have to "configure" my car before I drive it..........
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
>>My contention is you shouldn't have to do that stuff>>

You have to (in the majority of cases) to configure it. If you are not prepared to do so then there seems little point in using a computer system..:-)

As for the analogy with cars you still have to put fuel in it, get it serviced regularly, keep it clean etc.
What PC DVD Player? - Baskerville
The decoder is I suspect a piece of software to break the encryption on commercial DVDs--it's to do with licensing of the movies on the DVDs and the industry's reluctance to let us copy them. Presumably the company behind PowerDVD hasn't bought a license to sell that as part of its package, so it gives the package away and charges you for the decoder, or perhaps the other way around--you can play your own (home made) DVDs without it, but not commercial ones. No doubt there are free Windows decoders out there, but it's very difficult for American companies to distribute them for nothing.

For example most Linux operating system companies can't include a DVD decoder as part of their "distribution" but they all provide ample instructions on where to download and install a free one, which usually takes a few seconds.
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
>>you can play your own (home made) DVDs without it, but not commercial ones.>>

As I've already stated I use PowerDVD5 (and 3 and 4 prior to that) and watch both commercial DVDs and camcorder ones produced by my son via my DVD-ROM drive.

PowerDVD is, in fact, the decoder...:-)))

It's a software version used in conjunction with a DVD-ROM drive, but you could, of course, opt for a hardware decoder which is much more versatile.

My DVD-ROM drive isn't one of the multi-region types so prevalent these days (I bought it some time ago) but via its Properties can be set to other regions.

However, only five changes can be made in total and if I forgot to leave it on Region 2 on the last occasion it would prove virtually useless...:-)
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
Here's a little more about hardware/software DVD decoders for computer systems if you are interested:

tinyurl.com/7x2fw
What PC DVD Player? - Baskerville
PowerDVD is, in fact, the decoder...:-)))


But they might not be allowed to do that where Growler is. In the US, unless the supplier has paid for a distribution license, they can't bundle the player and the decoder together--they may not even be able to distribute a decoder at all, so you have to find your own. My bet is that since Growler lives in what was effectively the 51st State before we took over that role, that's what's going on. European rules in this case are more flexible.
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
PowerDVD can be paid for and downloaded from the Cyberlink website:

www.gocyberlink.com/english/download/dl_file_new.j...t

The United States is clearly listed in the dropdown country menu.

I cannot believe that there would be a complete restriction on software or hardware decoders for Growler's DVD playback, but only have brief time at the moment to make a full check (6pm finish with Tiscali DayTimePlus - phone charges after that...:-).

Mind you the fact that some US websites now even charge you for drivers that the rest of the world gets for free staggers me and many others.
What PC DVD Player? - Baskerville
The restrictions are definitely different, but I don't know how different--they certainly affect the Linux distributions in this way: in most cases you have to download the Videolan decoder or similar (there's a Windows version which is very good and free by the way). And a drag down country code is no guarantee of equal service. Try it on the Eurostar website for example and you'll find train journeys are almost twenty percent cheaper in many cases if you claim to be from the USA and can pay in US dollars.

Incidentally, and having said all that, there is an excellent Linux tool that turns your computer temporarily into a dedicated multimedia/DVD player. It's called GeeXbox and runs from a live cd (no install to hard disk). The advantage is that all your computer's resources are dedicated to playing the sound and vision so it's smoother on older hardware. It's only a 6mb download but you'll need to be able to burn the file as an ISO image so that you can boot the computer from it. It's still in development but worked fairly well the last time I tried it.

www.geexbox.org/en/index.html
What PC DVD Player? - Stuartli
>>Try it on the Eurostar website for example and you'll find train journeys are almost twenty percent cheaper in many cases if you claim to be from the USA and can pay in US dollars.>>

You've been reading the Daily Mail..:-)

Actually this applies to a lot of goods and services, not just Eurostar.
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - Stuartli
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler)

Re backups and CD-Rs.

You don\'t need to format a CD-R to do backups - just drag and drop whatever files you require (I\'m talking about Nero in this particular instance) into the Folder you create after starting a multisession mode. EasyCreater has similar multisession ability but is accomplished slightly differently.

Name the folder(s) on the lines of Backupdd/mm/yy so you know exactly when each was created.

You can keep adding files to a multisession CD-R until the disk is full - you then Finalise it on the last session.

I keep all my backup disks in this form - apart from being cheaper than CD-RW disks, they have far superior reflectivity and therefore minimise any possibility of some CD or DVD drives not being able to read them if you ever need them.
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - THe Growler
What's the difference between a multi-session CD-R and a regular CD-R?
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - Baskerville
It's not to do with the CD-R so much as how you use it. In multi-session mode you can keep copying to the CD-R until it's full over several sessions. Otherwise you might put 10mb on it one day and have to start with another CD-R the next. The down side is that an "unlocked" CD-R can only be used on the PC that created it, so if your PC goes belly up or worse, gets stolen, you've effectively lost your backup. I hardly ever use multi-session mode because I just back up everything at once every week and use my PDA and another computer on my network for daily backups of "work in progress".
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - J Bonington Jagworth
"if your PC goes belly up or worse, gets stolen.."

Which is what back-up are for, mostly! Roxio (used to be Adaptec) software does at least ask you if you want the disc 'closed' when you eject it, and can then re-open it the next time you use it, and is the only software I have used to that makes this clear.

I think for crucial stuff that changes regularly, a USB memory stick is a better bet.
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - Baskerville
"if your PC goes belly up or worse, gets stolen.."
Which is what back-up are for, mostly!


Exactly. I absolutely agree about the USB memory stick/PDA memory stick option. They are quite cheap now and really handy.
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - THe Growler
Ah how I yearn for the days when you get it all on 3.5 floppies and the world was a better place.....
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - Stuartli
>>What's the difference between a multi-session CD-R and a regular CD-R?>>

The CD-R is exactly the same. However, if you just burn to a CD-R you cannot use it again, even if you have only put a few MB on it.

But, in multisession form, you can keep adding new files until the disk is full.

The way to do it (Nero) is to use the panel which appears when you start the program.

Enable Start Multisession, check Replace Files in Compilation, File Date or Length Changed and Add New Files to Compilation; create a file name under the Label tab for it (I use Various1, Various2 etc as I start new disks; under Misc tab enable both boxes and then select New.

You will then see a panel appear with the contents of your HDD on the right and, on the lefthand side, the File name you created.

Drag and drop what folders or files you wish to burn into the File's name box. The bottom of the screen indicates the total MB being added.

Once this is completed, click on the Burn button at the top of the page, select burning speed etc and off you go.

Next time you want to add files to the disk, click on the Opens an existing Compilation button (second left at top of Nero screen), select the File you wish to add to, OK and then ensure that the Continue Multisession box is checked in the panel which appears.

Once you have dragged and dropped new files into the File's name box, you again commence the burning routine.

Simple and quick once you get the hang of it. Try practicing with a CD-RW first to save wasting a CD-R - the contents can always be erased.

Multisession mode is available with EasyCreater but this is in achieved by a slightly different route; the principle, however, is the same.

I use multisession disks to store downloaded programs, utilities etc as backup/install on other systems.
Re CD-R backups (for the Growler) - Stuartli
PS

Once a disk is full, don't forget to enable the Finalise button to close it. Once you have burned the final session afterwards nothing can be added to the disk.
SP2 & Pop ups - Citroënian {P}
Hi all,

Not so much a question as a recommendation.

XP Service Pack 2 brings a built in Pop-up stopper for Internet Explorer. So by default, the pop-up messages that pay to run the backroom will be blocked.

Seems to me the least we can do for using this site for free is to have pop ups to help with the running costs.

Once SP2 is installed, in Internet Explorer

Tools - Internet Options - Privacy - Pop Up Blocker - Settings

Type www.honestjohn.co.uk
then press Add.

Think about it. No revenue. No backroom.

Keep on motoring on the Superhighway!
--
Lee
MINI adventure in progress
SP2 & Pop ups - J Bonington Jagworth
"the pop-up messages that pay to run the backroom"

I think the conventional ads help pay for it, too, and they're a lot easier to live with. Now that even Explorer blocks pop-ups, their days are numbered, I imagine...
SP2 & Pop ups - L'escargot
<< Now that even Explorer
blocks pop-ups, their days are numbered, I imagine...


And even the Google toolbar.....
--
L'escargot by name, but not by nature.
SP2 & Pop ups - smokie
There are also adware and spyware programs (trojans) which cause endless problems with pop up screens, as I found recently on my mates computer. Pop ups would appear long after you had logged out of the browser.

These "bad" pop ups are best stopped at source (i.e. kill the cause) rather than simply blocked in a browser.
wide screen dvds - tyro
Sort of a computer related question.

I play dvds on my computer (using Windows Media Player) Some dvds are advertised as "wide screen" - ie the picture on a computer screen will be just a couple of inches high, and hence pretty useless. Can Media Player cope and cut off the ends, so that the picture fills the screen, or should I avoid buying dvds that are "wide screen versions"?

Thanks
wide screen dvds - Stuartli
The only way is to try it as there are various features which are not available in all Windows WMP9 versions.

PowerDVD or similar allows altering the picture aspect ratio.
wide screen dvds - tyro
thanks.

I'll try it
wide screen dvds - THe Growler
I had loads of trouble with PowerDVD which kept telling me it couldn't find a decoder (it was a kosher installation off a SONY CD-ROM with the purchase of a DVD drive) so I switched to Interactual. Works well and doesn't have one of those dumb Startrek flight deck menu systems which only kids of 8 can fathom out.....

Plus you can only change the region code a few times before it cuts you out. I bought DVD Region-Free, does the jon no worries.


wide screen dvds - Kuang
Just as a point of interest (as you've found a more effective solution already!) - a lot of Sony DVD drives used to allow you to reset the region count to 5 in case of accidents by holding the eject button for 5 seconds when the PC was first turned on. I think this was removed from the firmware later on, which is a shame as it came in handy when you sold a machine and didn't want to impose your region choice on the new owner.
Hard drive types - Andy B
Im looking to fit a second hard drive to my PC, and have found some at good prices at Ebuyer. However Im a bit stumped about whether I need to buy an ATA or UIDE type. Ive googled without success.

My current drive has the long multi-pin type of connector, which I think is IDE. Can anyone advise on the difference, if any? Also, my current hard drive is jumpered to CS - do I need to change the jumpering to master/slave when I fit the new drive?

Ta
Andy
Hard drive types - Kuang
Without delving into the differences too much, ATA tends to refer to the speed at which the drive can communicate with the motherboard, and IDE is the type of drive. From your description You definitely have an IDE drive connector on your board - the other current alternative anre SCSI and serial ATA which are a whole different ballgame. Most drives now support ATA100 which is an indicator of the transfer speed assuming your cable is good enough and your motherboard supports it. They're all backwards compatible though, and as a result you'll find you'll have trouble buying anything slower anyway :)

Things to consider:

1. You will need to jumper your current drive to master and the new one to slave. Having said that, if the new drive is faster and larger it can be worth using that as the primary one. his does involve mucking around with transferring the data though, so I wouldn't worry too much about that.

2. You'll need to make sure you have an 80 strand IDE cable from your drives to the motherboard to ensure the best performance. Compare the IDE cable to the floppy drive cable - if the strands look to be of a similar width, then you have a 40 strand. The drive will still work with this but not as effectively - it'll just run at speeds associated with ATA33 drives instead.

3. Remember that if you have your current drive partitioned, your drive letters will get mixed up when you format the new one. You can avoid this by creating an extended partition ONLY on the secondary drive rather than a primary. This will maintain the drive letter sequence, but won't affect the performance.
Hard drive types - Stuartli
Further to Kuang's posting:

ATA

Short for Advanced Technology Attachment, a disk drive implementation that integrates the controller on the disk drive itself. There are several versions of ATA, all developed by the Small Form Factor (SFF) Committee:
ATA: Known also as IDE, supports one or two hard drives, a 16-bit interface and PIO modes 0, 1 and 2.
ATA-2: Supports faster PIO modes (3 and 4) and multiword DMA modes (1 and 2). Also supports logical block addressing (LBA) and block transfers. ATA-2 is marketed as Fast ATA and Enhanced IDE (EIDE).
ATA-3: Minor revision to ATA-2.
Ultra-ATA: Also called Ultra-DMA, ATA-33, and DMA-33, supports multiword DMA mode 3 running at 33 MBps.
ATA/66: A version of ATA proposed by Quantum Corporation, and supported by Intel, that doubles ATA's throughput to 66 MBps.
ATA/100: An updated version of ATA/66 that increases data transfer rates to 100 MBps.
ATA also is called Parallel ATA. Contrast with Serial ATA.
Hard drive types - Mark (RLBS)
Stuart - you definitely need to get out more.
Hard drive types - Hairy Hat Man
No, you need to stay right here and answer all our questions!
Hard drive types - Stuartli
>>Stuart - you definitely need to get out more.>>

Oh really? Probably get out more than you...:-)

I do at least 20 miles a week with the dog for a start, there's a minumum of three visits a week for a pint (?) of Guinness (mile long walk each way to my club), chauffeur the other half for two hours or so on shopping trips at least twice a week, drive around a large area of Merseyside and Lancashire on an almost daily basis, plus.....

Need I go on...:-)))
Hard drive types - Andy B
Kuang,

thanks.

I have no partitions so no problem there. My intention is to transfer my Op system (XP) and possibly other data to my new faster drive and switch Master/slave etc, using Norton Ghost. As you cant backup or restore to/from the same disk, Im hoping to create disk A image on disk B, then copy image onto disk A, and restore to disk B. Then change disk B to master. Does this sound OK?
Ideally, I would have XP on a seperate partition to the rest of my data (to simplify Ops system backups - Im on dial-up) - is it possible to transfer XP to its own partition without uninstalling all my other applications?



Hard drive types - Andy B
Ooops, misunderstood the concept of Ghost. Mirroring, and not imaging the drive will simplify things.

Andy
Hard drive types - Kuang
Ghost will allow you to do a direct image from one disk to another rather than producing image files as an intermediate stage - choose Local > Disk > to Disk. That'll duplicate the entire drive across to the new one a lot faster than using images and sort out unused space for you so the partition fills the whole drive correctly. You can then switch the master and slave settings as required.

Unfortunately when you install applications into a windows system, windows keeps track of where they're located and stores a lot of information in the registry to that effect. Moving an application or the windows directory generally has catastrophic results. Some apps will run, but the vast majority will throw a hissy fit of mammoth proportions.

Your two best options as I see them would be as follows:

1. Partition the new drive into OS and Data sections (or even OS, Apps and Data). Copy your personal files over to the data section, and then reinstall the OS and apps into the other two. The benefit would be a clean system, but you'd have a lot of work to do to get it back up to the level it was previously at. You might have to re-update the OS and patch applications where needed, and you'd also have to transfer internet and email settings over to the new install.

2. Partition the new drive as you see fit. Ghost the old drive to the primary partition, and then move your data to one of the other partitions. Your old drive then becomes a repository for backups and general working space.

3. Simply ghost the old drive to the new one 'as is' and then use the old drive for all your data. This would safeguard your files in the event of primary drive failure.

Option 3 is definitely the path of least resistance, but you have to consider what you'll use it for in the future.
Hard drive types - Andy B
Kuang,

Thanks for the good clear advice. Option 2 is the way Ill go. It doesnt achieve my ideal situation (option 1) but Im not in the mood to spend days at my pc re-loading software.

Andy
Hard drive types - Stuartli
Don't forget that XP has its own Files and Settings Transfer Wizard (look in System Tools) which may help with some data and settings transfers.
Hard drive types - smokie
I can't think of one good reason to partition a drive these days. I'm sure someone will enlighten me. They are cheap as chips so if you want two drives, just buy two drives!

Anyway, an important consideration before buying the new drive may be to ensure that your motherboard will support a large drive. I got one for my mate, who had a Tiny computer which didn't seem that old, and nothing I could do would get the motherboard BIOS to recognise the disk, and the BIOS was not upgradeable. He ended up buying new motherboard, memory, processor, case etc etc and we built a new machine using some of his old bits (CD etc)

Hard drive types - Citroënian {P}
Tiny, you say? (sharp intake of breath) Replacing everything isn't too bad an idea then! :-)

Partitioning is handy as a firm separation of data. My laptop & PC have two:

1. System partition for Programs/System Files that type of thing
2. User data

The big benefit is that I can rebuild the computer as it inevitably grinds to a halt as I add apps - and not affect the valuable data I need - format C, reinstall, carry on. The important stuff, my data isn't affected.

HTH,
Lee.




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Hard drive types - Malcolm_L
Haven't used Ghost but I do use Hyperos.

Hyperos allows you to create images of the system much like Ghost but you then use the images to clone new partitions which you can boot at will.

If you installed an OS and then loaded all default programs and updated all relevant drivers, i.e. Programs only no data you could then save that image in Ghost.
This gives you the perfect system to fall back in the event of a catastrophic failure (takes about 4 minutes to back or restore up an XP image with Office, Paint shop pro and a few other programs).

You don't back up programs - you back-up data which can then be restored at will.

Hyperos can actually boot entirely in extended RAM drives which is useful if you're checking out potential conflicts - if it fails - restart and no changes saved.
Wireless Networking - hxj

I am about to venture into this area.

Need a system that can use my cable broadband, and also cope with our main computer plus another desktop and two laptops.

Any suggestions as to a good system to use.

Many thanks
Wireless Networking - carl_a
I am about to venture into this area.
Need a system that can use my cable broadband, and also
cope with our main computer plus another desktop and two laptops.
Any suggestions as to a good system to use.
Many thanks


All you need is a wireless broadband router and a wireless card for each computer, your cable modem should plug into your network card and so should be quite simple. If it plugs into the computer via USB then you need to talk to your cable operator.

The bigger brands these are normally much easier to setup but more expensive.
Wireless Networking - Baskerville
Go to www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk and send an email explaining what you want to do to their technical staff. They may not be the cheapest, but they will give you an idea of what you need and the prices are not outrageous. Remember when you set it up to change the default password and sort out security/encryption. If you\'re on broadband, a wireless adsl router, with a modem and firewall built in is a very good idea.
Wireless Networking - BB
www.ebuyer.com have a good selection of routers. I have got a Belkin 11Mb/s (My broadband connection is 750k) that works extremely well with my NTL modem. (About £30)

For your laptops I would go for a couple of Belkin WiFi PCMCIA cards from Ebay. (About £18 each) For your desktop, the easiest thing to do is get a USB wiFi dongle. (About £20)

Get a card first and install to see if anyone else in close proximity has got a broadband connection. If they have and it is not encrypted, you can use there broadband connection for free!

What broadband connection have you got?
Wireless Networking - BB
Forgot to add, most routers (the belkin for sure) has ethernet connections so you can hardwire your broadband connection via the router to your computer. If your cable/adsl point is where your computer is, save yourself £18-20 by just linking up via ethernet cable.
Wireless Networking - hxj

Thanks for your suggestions.

I have an NTL 750k broadband cable line.
Wireless Networking - bartycrouch
If you go wireless hxj, make sure you spend a little time looking at security. If you are running XP on the machines it might be worth getting devices that support the WPA system over the older WE P system.

There are plenty of guides on the net that help explain the process and most of the manuals have sections on setting up encryption.

With wireless you always need more than lock on the door so don't forget about locking down access to only your devices - this will normally be descrived as MAC address filtering.

Once you've got wireless installed, you won't know how you lived without it.



Excel question - Vin {P}
I need help with a bit of work I'm doing in Excel.

I have a table, let's say it's:

a 12
b 3
c 7
a 4
b 7
a 9

The lines can be in any order, and there may be hundreds.

What I want to do is create a table that gives the total for each subitem, i.e.

a 25
b 10
c 7

I really need to do it without sorting or altering the original table, and if it's possible to do without creating a macro, that, too would be wonderful.

Is there an unknown (to me) function within Excel that I can use to get this result?

Thanks for the help,

V
Excel question - Mark (RLBS)
Vin,

Look in Excel help. Search for the headings...

"about calculating a value based on a condition"

and

"summarizing values that meet conditions"

If you're still stuck later in the day when I've got a little more time, let me know and I'll work it out and write it down in detail for you. (assuming that someone else has not given you chapter and verse by then !)
Excel question - spikeyhead {p}
I'm at home and don't have excel on my home machine, but here's how it can be done wthout using any advanced functions

In the column to the right of your curreent two columns, use the function wizard to sort out and IF statement along the lines of

IF "cell1"="a" then "cell2" ESLE "0"

I'm not sure about the syntax, but the function wizard will sort that out for you

then in the next column across, do the same for "b" and for "c" in the third column.

Hope this helps, let me know if it doesn't and I'l have another think.
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Excel question - SpamCan61 {P}
This can be carried out using a pivot table:-

label your columns of data i.e 'category' and 'score' or whatever

go to 'data' > 'pivot table and pivotchart' and check 'microsoft excel list or database' then hit 'next'

highlight your data range, including the labels with the cursor, then hit 'next'

hit 'layout' then drag the 'category' grey button (or whatever you called the first column) into the 'row' field and the 'score' ( or whatever) grey button into the 'data' field

the 'data' field should now show 'sum of score'; if not double click the grey button & select 'sum'

hit 'OK' and then 'finish'

You should now have a little pivot table with the sum total for each category

Guess what function in excel I've been using all morning ;-)...spam
Excel question - Vin {P}
Thanks for all the suggestions - I've just found the answer from one of our tecchies (and if you worked for HAL[if you know what I mean]) you'd know some wild tecchies you'd rather not ask.

The "SUMIF" function does it - it sums numbers in a column given a condition elsewhere in the table. Perfect.

Thanks for all you efforts.

V
Excel question - malteser
I've just bought "Excel for Dummies" from a charity shop for the pricely sum of a quid! Cheap ain't I?
Roger. (in the UK for 2 more weeks and then back to the sun! )
what TFT? - Dave Andrews
anybody recommend a good TFT 17 or 19" monitor? im confused by different reviews ive seen in magazines that seem to condrict themselves. want to spend £300 -£400. must have DVI.

what TFT? - Stuartli
a good TFT 17 or 19" monitor>>


The 17in Iiyama ProLite E431S (virtually equal to a 19in CRT monitor in screen area) and around £290 to £330 depending where you buy it, but be prepared to have to hunt around for one.

It's proved so popular (because like most Iiyama monitors it's a classy act) that supplies are scarce. It has a DVI facility.

A hunt on google or checking online retailers such as www.scan.co.uk www.dabs.com etc should assist in finding one.
what TFT? - borasport20
I have to ask.....

whats DVI ?
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what TFT? - Dave Andrews
DVI is a digital connection on the monitor - improved picture quality etc. some of the newer models have this.

ive heard that there are only about 6 companies in the world that make TFT/plasma screen so half the time they just stick a different badge on the front. iiyama, LG both use phillips screens
what TFT? - borasport20
We have a couple of phillips' at work, and an AOC - I believe that AOC are one of the companies who actually manufacture the stuff (under licence) which is then sold under well known names - or so i'm told

It's just the same situation that used to relate to VHS video technology - the licence rights were owned by half a dozen companies


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what TFT? - Dynamic Dave
ive heard that there are only about 6 companies in the
world that make TFT/plasma screen so half the time they just
stick a different badge on the front.


My Advent TFT screen is made by a company called ProView, who seem to just stick a different badge on the front, depending on the company they're making them for at the time.
what TFT? - borasport20
I've done a bit of rooting and i'm still not certain what DVI is, but i've recently bought on of these :-tinyurl.com/4myq3

taking into account the free delivery option from amazon, at £209.99, it was the cheapest 17" flat screen I could come across, and the quality stands comparison with the 'branded' models we use at work


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what TFT? - Stuartli
DVI is an acronym for Digital Visual Interface (or much more rare, Digital Video Interactive).

It enables the conversion of analogue signals into digital signals to accommodate both analogue and digital monitors.

Re TFT screens:

This is a highly specialised field and undertaken by only a small number of manufacturers.

Just as with TV sets or most monitor brands, the producers buy them from the manufacturers to use in their models.

Another instance is Sony's famous Trinitron tube. Mitsubishi uses the same technology under licence from Sony and labels its tubes as Diamondtron.

Rebranding is nothing new in the computer field, or indeed dozens of others, including food products. Think of Tesco's Value lines for instance...
what TFT? - Pugugly {P}
Just bought a LG 19" Flatron L1910B to replace a similar 15" model. It has DVI interface, came with all the cables as well.
£367.78 delivered two days after I ordered it online from More Computers, totally seamless service, excellent colour definition - far better than the 19" Hewlitt Packard I have in work. Never seen whites so bright !
Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - malteser
I am at my daughter's PC in the UK at present and I am trying to get a couple of applications to start with Windows.
I can't find a "Start Up" folder anywhere in her system, even with the "show hidden files & folders" option ennabled.
Any ideas?
Her copy of XP Pro is in Spanish, which makes the "Help" function hard to understand with my rudinentory knowkedge of the language!
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Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - Stuartli
>>Her copy of XP Pro is in Spanish>>

Go to Start>Settings>Control Panel>Regional and Language Options and temporarily change to English UK.
Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - Stuartli
PS

Does your daughter have Administration and/or User or Guest accounts set up?


Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - malteser
Just admin - no guest accounts active
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Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - malteser
That doesn't alter the basic installation language of XP. All system language is still Spanish!
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Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - frostbite
If it's like W98 then try Star>Run and enter msconfig, go to startup tab.
Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - frostbite
DOH
Star=Start
Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - malteser
msconfig lets you disable start up items, not add new ones!
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Windows XP Pro Start Up Folder - malteser
Oops! My brain hurts! It's old age - "Inicio" in Spanish means Start so the start up folder is in All users|programs|INICIO !

Sorted - sorry to bother you!
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