Give way to traffic on the roundabout is true, but it's not the whole truth is it? If you're joining a good size roundabout and you think you can get on and pull away without making the other car change speed or direction you do it. If you didn't no-one would ever get anywhere. Picture yourself sitting there, cars are approaching but you can easily get out so you do.
Seems like the faster car thought he could get on the roundabout before the slow car got to his exit so did it.
Also, indicators are just that - an indicator. Otherwise they'd be called "Definates".
Blame is probably 50-50, as stated above you're better to be safe and away from the idiots than have an accident and hope for it to be the other guys fault.
Gareth
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Also, indicators are just that - an indicator. Otherwise they'd be called "Definates".
Thank you, Garethj, I shall remember that one!
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Told to me by a traffic policeman, I remembered it too !
Gareth
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Gareth,
"Told to me by a traffic policeman, I remembered it too !"
Ditto, but,
"The only thing an indicator tells you is that the bulb is working".
Matt35
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"The only thing an indicator tells you is that the bulb is working".
No it isn't ... oh yes it is ... no, it isn't, ... oh...
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"The only thing an indicator tells you is that the bulb is working".
>>No it isn't ... oh yes it is ... no, it isn't, ... oh...
Even so, it *would* be nice if people were to use them. I know we cannot rely on whether another driver is indicating properly, but my pet hate is people who are above using them on, in particular, mini-roundabouts. The hold-ups on these are frequently caused by the selfish drivers who just canot be bothered to indicate their intention.
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Only one thing worse than people not using them, is people using them when they don't know how to use them.
Approach roundabout at 6 o'clock. Turning right, to leave at 3 o'clock. Switch on right hand indicator.
Go round 270 degrees, and turn off left, with right hand indicator blaring away. Particularly unpleasant if you're a cyclist trying to cross the junction.
Certainly not 'definites' (I like that!), but not even indicators. Just 'bearers of confusion'.
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Or the one where entering at 6 o'clock to go straight on, in the right hand lane indicate right and go straight over turning on the left indicator as they leave the roundabout.
AAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
(Glass-Tech)
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Funnily enough I was taught to do that one by my driving instructor. Has taken years to get out of the habit.
Silly me, should have just bought a beemer, would have lost the habit of indicating in a flash (pardon the pun).
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Sometimes makes sense on a big roundabout to do that. A car that's not indicating at all you wonder what on earth it might be about to do...
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Actually, the thing that annoys me most on roundabouts (medium sized two lane ones) are people that use the wrong lane. (eg using the right hand lane when they're going straight on.)
I've always been taught that it's correct to use the left hand lane for turning left and going straight on, and the right hand lane for turning right and going full circle.
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It's a shame that various highway authorities can't agree on that. How many of us have reached an unfamiliar roundabout in what the Highway Code says is the right lane, then found that the road markings 20yds from the entrance tell you otherwise.
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Actually, the thing that annoys me most on roundabouts (medium sized two lane ones) are people that use the wrong lane. (eg using the right hand lane when they're going straight on.) I've always been taught that it's correct to use the left hand lane for turning left and going straight on, and the right hand lane for turning right and going full circle.
It's permissable in the highway code to use the right hand lane for going straight on.
Gareth
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There even used to be a picture on the front cover illustrating this, iirc.
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>> It's permissable in the highway code to use the right hand lane for going straight on.
That's what I've always assumed. I knew I must have read it somewhere.
But the question then often arises, who has priority when such a driver wants to cut across and exit? Does a car in the innermost lane always have priority by virtue of being always on everyone else's right?
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In that situation I would have thought the car in the outside (left) lane had right of way, since the car in the right hand lane would have to cut across the left lane in order to exit the roundabout.
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Agreed, whenever I've seen two lane roundabouts which have
single lane exits there's normally an arrow on the exit
indicating that cars in the right hand lane should move into
the left hand lane.
To me this implies that they should give way to the left hand
lane, so summing up you should give way to the right when entering and on the roundabout but not when coming off - AAAARGH!
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Over the years, I've developed the distinct impression that on leaving a roundabout, the one going fastest and sounding the horn has right of way.
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Unless traffic is queuing, in which case priority goes to the one prepared to edge their wing across the front of the other driver.
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I'm sensing some cynicism developing in this thread....
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At a few of our local roundabouts, they have marked the inside lane to be 'Exit Left' or in the case of there being no left, staight ahead only.
Traffic leaving the roundabout has separation hatchings keeping it to what is the outside lane for about a hundred yards...good idea in principle - provided drivers notice the paint on the road.
For the first few weeks it was safer in Iraq!
Matt.
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Actually, the thing that annoys me most on roundabouts (medium sized two lane ones) are people that use the wrong lane. (eg using the right hand lane when they're going straight on.) I've always been taught that it's correct to use the left hand lane for turning left and going straight on, and the right hand lane for turning right and going full circle.
I think you'll find you've been taught wrong david. You can go straight on from either lane, unless otherwise marked on the road, when there are two lanes. The ones that annoy me are those that are in the left hand lane and are turning right.
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I agree the h/way code does say you can use the RH lane to go straight on. But am I alone in finding it dangerous and antisocial when people use this as a means of overtaking, especially when they cause vehicles in the LH lane who are legitimately going straight on to have to take avoiding action.
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I agree the h/way code does say you can use the RH lane to go straight on. But am I alone in finding it dangerous and antisocial when people use this as a means of overtaking....
Hmmm, I think we've been here before:-
www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=16697
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I don't think you can beat the technique everyone in Devon uses:
1) Coming up to roundabout, aim your car so you're driving over the middle of the white lines separating lanes, and on a course that will take you approximately straight through the roundabout.
2) Assume no one is coming.
3) Close eyes.
4) Floor it.
5) Rely on the edge of the pavement to guide your wheels in the right direction.
Never fails. ;) If you see another car on the roundabout, continue as normal while sounding horn and shaking fist. After all, it's YOUR roundabout...
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