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VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Spitfire Pete.

After completing just 6,961 miles in the 1st year the remaining tread depth was measured during its service. Both front tyres had remaining 5.0mm, 4.0mm, 5.0mm (outer middle inner) of tread whilst the rear tyres had 5.6mm, 5.0mm, 5.6mm (outer middle inner). Tread depth on new tyres is generally 8mm, the minimum is 1.6mm allowing a total wear of 6.4mm. I immediately swapped over front and rear tyres but I will be very lucky if I can get 15,000 miles out of these tyres. They are Falken 310A Eco Run. I always drive as economically as is possible currently averaging 57.933mpg over 9,154 miles. I do not slew around corners or roundabouts, I do not accelerate quickly nor brake heavily and this mpg better than VW quote. I have not yet contacted VW. I would like to hear what others here have to say. Regards, Pete.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - gordonbennet

Not sure about your particular tyres, but the Falkens on my Forester came with 7mm new tread and whilst have been decent enough tyres grip wise they haven't worn well and i wouldn't buy again.

Just looked up when fitted, the car has covered 20k miles since and they're down to 3mm, not bad you might think, except half of that mileage has been covered on my winter tyres, so at best around 12k miles, maybe near 15k when they get sc***ped...to be fair the car is fast with permanent 4WD and gets driven briskly.

Very few new car tyres come with a genuine 8mm or more new tread, Goodyear Efficient Grip come with 8mm, Uniroyal Rainsport 8.4mm similar found on Vredestein Quatrac and one of these will be my next choice unless something decent comes up at an unmissable price (to be fair the Falkens were stupidly cheap when i bought them, double the cost now)...beware, some notable premium makes now come with only 6.5mm new tread.

Its difficult to find new tread depth information, odd that when they're so happy to give all other info, wonder why? Camskill give new depths on most tyres, TyreReviews on tyres they physically test, if you find somewhere else giving this info please let us know.

edit, just looked on tyrereviews, your tyres came with 7.5mm new tread

Edited by gordonbennet on 25/07/2024 at 15:15

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - JonestHon

Not sure about your particular tyres, but the Falkens on my Forester came with 7mm new tread and whilst have been decent enough tyres grip wise they haven't worn well and i wouldn't buy again.

Just looked up when fitted, the car has covered 20k miles since and they're down to 3mm, not bad you might think, except half of that mileage has been covered on my winter tyres, so at best around 12k miles, maybe near 15k when they get sc***ped...to be fair the car is fast with permanent 4WD and gets driven briskly.

Very few new car tyres come with a genuine 8mm or more new tread, Goodyear Efficient Grip come with 8mm, Uniroyal Rainsport 8.4mm similar found on Vredestein Quatrac and one of these will be my next choice unless something decent comes up at an unmissable price (to be fair the Falkens were stupidly cheap when i bought them, double the cost now)...beware, some notable premium makes now come with only 6.5mm new tread.

Its difficult to find new tread depth information, odd that when they're so happy to give all other info, wonder why? Camskill give new depths on most tyres, TyreReviews on tyres they physically test, if you find somewhere else giving this info please let us know.

edit, just looked on tyrereviews, your tyres came with 7.5mm new tread

I looked at Camskill but can't see where they list the groove depth, and the V.Ultrac in TyteTeview is 6.9mm. Are these numbers reliable?

Edited by JonestHon on 28/07/2024 at 15:30

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Palcouk

If they are low Profile then you will get poor mileage

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - skidpan

If they are low Profile then you will get poor mileage

Beg to disagree there.

Our Fabia TSi 110 PS had 45 profile tyres (215 45 16) and after 22,000 miles still had about 4.5mm left on the fronts and 5 mm on the rear, they were Bridgestones. They were never moved front to rear etc

Had a Ceed SW 1.6 CRDi 115 PS with 45 profile tyres (225 45 17) which still had about 4mm left after about 30,000 miles, Michelins. They were rotated front to rear once a year when we refitted them after the winter. Note that the 30,000 miles does not include the miles covered on the winter tyres.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - corax

I have Falken Ecorun ZE 310's on my Focus. I've had the car for coming up to two years and I had to replace the front tyres last year, but the rears have done around 10,000 miles with me and look like they have been on the car for a few years before my ownership. They won't need replacing yet, so I have no issues with wear. I like the tyre so I replaced with the same. It's very quiet and grips well in the wet. My car is low powered though, so the tyres have every chance of lasting well.

Have you had tracking checked?

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Spitfire Pete.

Thanks to everyone for the replies so far. The comments are really interesting. The tyres are 215/60 so not low profile. I would never have thought to measure the tread depth on new tyres but I shall definitely look into this when I do have to replace them.

I have not checked tracking but the tyre wear is very even across the tyres which suggests to me that the tracking should be OK. I will eventually raise the whole matter with VW so I will mention tracking then.

I would welcome additional comments.

Regards, Pete.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Adampr

I don't think you can draw any conclusions at all without knowing how much tread you started with. You could speak to a local tyre supplier,or sneak into a VW showrooms and measure the tread depth on a showroom model.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - bazza

I don't think 15000 miles to worn out is excessive. About average to slightly less than maybe. I've never had front tyres last more than 20 to 25000 miles in 40 years of careful driving. I never swap them back to front. My last Civic was particularly bad, about 12 to 15000 maximum. Current Vitara looks good at 17000 and likely to go 20 plus. Other car, Swift had new tyres at 22000, pretty good. I didn't know about new tyres varying tread depth, thanks for that, very useful.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - John F

I don't think 15000 miles to worn out is excessive....

Well I do. I expect a decent set of tyres to last 30k on a sensibly driven not-very-powerful car. There were Michelin Crossclimates on our new Peugeot 2008 130hp I didn't measure the tread but apparently they would have been 7mm.

..... I never swap them back to front.

I think it good practice to swap to ensure equal wear. I swapped ours at 15,500. Now, at 27,000 there is around 3mm tread all round. That's nearly 7k miles per mm. They should easily top 30k.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Ethan Edwards

And people whine about EVs going through tyres at a prodigious rate.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - bazza

Yes I agree it's good practice to swap them round, I just never get round to it. If I did I think I might see my average tyre life up over 20k, i was calculating just on permanent front usage. Thinking about it, I had an Octavia with over 40000 miles on the back, so I'm sure you are correct!

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - skidpan

No 2 people drive the same and use the same roads so its impossible to say what tyre life should be.

But back in 1979 my dad bought a new Renault which was 1200cc and front wheel drive and I bought a new Ford Escort which was 1600cc and rear wheel drive. We both did about 12,000 miles a year and both were factory fitted with Michelin ZX tyres.

The ones on the front of the Renault lasted about 12,000 miles so in the 3 years he owned it he had to buy 3 tyres (year 1 used the spare and bought 1 tyre, year 2 bought 2 tyres, sold it just as it needed another 2 tyres).

I had the Escort 4 years and sold it with about 48,000 miles on the clock. the spare had never been out of the boot and the tyres still had legal usable tread.

I would say that as a person in my early 20's with a quick car for its day I drove harder but still got plenty of life from the identical tyres (except for size) that were fitted to dads.

Move on to 1990 and dad bought a new Golf 1600. Came fitted with Michelin XZX tyres. He kept it almost 6 years and did over 70,000 miles in it. Bought 1 new tyre for the front (used the new spare on the other corner) and they were still on it when he sold it. The rears were original. All were legal.

100% certain that people with identical cars on identical tyres would have a different tale to tell.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Brit_in_Germany

It looks like new Falkens have a tread depth of 7 mm. A further complicating factor is that the new car may be supplied with VW specials. A lower tread depth is likely to be marginally more fuel efficient due to less rubber hysteresis, so if VW fits tyres with less tread they can decrease the CO2 value.

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Orb>>

I am slightly surprised..

The Korando1.5 Tgdi is heavy and 235/55/18 tyres and on checking at my friendly garage today, (tyre pressures.) front 3.5 mm and rears 5.5 mm at 19100 miles..

No complaints there. Hankook factory fit.

In the wet it can have a tendency to lose grip if i am enthusiastic setting off.

In the dry I can feel the torque steer effect under the same setting off too enthusiastic, but in todays traffic needed at times.

Edited by Orb>> on 26/07/2024 at 19:44

VW 2023 T-Roc Life TSI - Excessive tyre wear - Spitfire Pete.

Thanks for all the comments, some of them very interesting. At the moment I think I can't do anything more than continue to monitor the tyre wear.