Probably about the same chances as ICE rejection in the same circumstances - none.

Most Evs do about 3-3.5 m/kwh.

The "safest" way to calculate range is to take the usable battery capacity and multiply it by 3 to 3.5 which will give you a fairly accurate range and treat anything above that as a bonus.

Looking at a trip computer at the moment showing 3.57 miles per kWh over the past 1513 miles. Giving 278 real world miles from a published 335. Someone else can do the percentages.

Equals just shy of 17% lost in our glorious summer so perhaps nearer 30% in winter? Not bad but perhaps a lot more acceptable from a car with a good high range to start. Any idea why the addition of a heat pump would account for his words poor range or could he have a slightly faulty battery to start with.

Every EV range I look at I knock off 100 miles to start. I quite like the look of the MG4. It looks nice in light blue and the split rear spoiler is a nice design pinched from a MINI I reckon. However its real range again is probably no more than 170miles Ok for local driving but hopeless for even reasonable distance compared to a modest MINI

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The rest of what you say is just typical of a lack of common sense

What have I said that shows a lack of common sense?

And what previously which makes it typical?

The rest of what you say is just typical of a lack of common sense

What have I said that shows a lack of common sense?

And what previously which makes it typical?

Well to give a list of small EVs and just take 100miles of their quoted range for a start jus because I use this rule of thumb you don't have to go with it.

To go back to the MG4 I looked at 2 things on google which takes me to the MG website and the very first page is this

"""MG4 EV is our first fully-electric hatchback car. With up to 323 miles of electric range* and two battery options, standard features include a 10.25" colour touchscreen with Apple CarPIayTM and Android AutoTM , MG iSMART app connectivity, and our MG Pilot suite of driver assistance systems, making MG4 EV the no compromise electric car. ""

It quite clearly says 2 battery options so I am confused and not wishing to cause any discord.

None of which has anything whatsoever to do with "common sense", which is why I asked.

What is typical though, is you making spurious accusations when some of your more ridiculous statements and notions are challenged. Last time I was having a rant (as I'm apparently prone to do?), this time I'm displaying a (typical) lack of common sense.

‘ EV's are about changing from burning fossil fuels and all the pollution/co2 that comes from it and transitioning to a cleaner way to power cars...that's the only reason to change over to an EV and the reason the government is topping sales of ICE vehicles. If you choose to do it now, then you are helping to get to that change point quicker - if you choose not too then that's your choice.’ And in making the transition there are pros and cons. On the credit side, you are massively reducing your carbon intensity. Over its whole life, an EV will produce about a third of the greenhouse gases of an equivalent ICE. And, if you can charge from home, you can drive around for pennies. But, in the debit column, compromise sometimes has to be made. The ‘I need to do 500 miles, non-stop, towing a caravan’ brigade will have to wait a while, but the rest of us just have to adapt to a slightly more leisurely tempo on long journeys - surely a stop after 150 miles is not the end of the world?

There are over 35million cars on UK roads well under 1 million are electric but growing slowly . At the present rate of uptake it will take some 10 years or more to even get to 50 - 50. All these cars have "" made" there so called carbon foot print. Are we to throw away perfectly good cars to save a bit of emissions. The modern Ice car is giving out far less emissions than the older one and their fuel consumption is vastly improved. Todays new ICE car will be good for some 20 years so are they to be penalised off the road long before them just to say we are green now which will never be achievable.

As too the rest of transport well much more difficult to green. How many cars do your private aircraft helicopters 747s etc equate too. It is like peeing in the ocean and expecting to see the water rise. No go after car use make a whole new electric concept in solar wind turbines and make a whole lot of money. The only thing that will make any difference is to stop what we are doing ever expanding the human race and all the material things that support it

Edited by mcb100 on 03/08/2023 at 08:02

<< The acceleration is startling from low speed, the 0-60 time of 7.9 seconds sounds conservative compared to the sensation when you put your foot down ... >>

On this point, is there any evidence that EV drivers are hitting the car in front when starting from a queue or traffic light ? I'd have thought that would be quite likely in a line of mixed vehicles, especially if the driver of the EV is not yet used to it ?

Edited by SLO76 on 04/08/2023 at 12:00

‘ MG have spawned its MG4 X power EV with acclaimed 0-62 in 3.8 seconds. All this for just £36.5k. ’ What a bargain. 0-60 in under four seconds for £36,495, you can’t get a new ICE for that. I did see this car at a preview a few months ago when I did a training job for MG. The regular MG4 struck me as a brilliant price/range proposition.

Agree if you want an EV. Best value that I can see and as I said I like its looks. They even come out well in the rapid charging review by Autocar. A pity it is Chinese which would be a no no for me. Besides what else is going on in China how can people who support green policies buy from a country with the worse record on the planet. Stop buying their products and see them produce less carbon if it concerns people.