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Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - pugnacious

Hey all, first time poster. Apologies if this is a repost, forum search didn't help.

We bought a 2015 "Style" (1.2 VTI) from a dealer last week for my daughter to drive. All seemed good,car drove well on the test drive, documentation was good, a basic OBD scan by me showed no OBD-based faults. So we bought it.

On the drive home, the dashboard EPS fault light illuminated, and the infotainment screen then popped up to tell me I had an ESP& ASR fault, and then a "steering system faulty" message. Not good. Steering was still possible, but heavy and unpowered. I pulled over and killed the ignition, checked for punctures and fluid leaks- nothing obvious to see, but on restarting the engine to drive on, the issue had gone- no lights, steering was back. Strange. I phoned the supplying dealer and let them know that evening, and they promised to honour the warranty; all I needed to do was get it fixed and they'd foot the bill, they said.

The fault persists but is intermittent. Its been driven every day in the week owned it, and for 5 out of these 7 the fault appeared. The 'cure' still works. Tyre pressures and fluid levels are all bang on.

There's an independent Pug/Citroen specialist near me, so I dropped it in there for diagnostics yesterday and they noted 2 stored codes:
-C1638 (estimation of steering wheel angle- consistency)
-C1135 (steering wheel angle sensor signal from s.w angle estimator or s.w controls- internal)

They cleared these, recalibrated the angle sensor, & checked for wiring faults. Ominously, they warned me that if it popped up again their recommendation would be for a new EPS/rack unit to be fitted, as these faults indicate an impending failure in that area. These are different from my old 207s, which had the motor/pump separate to the rack- on the 208 its all amalgamate and costs a serious amount of money....£1900!!! With labour involved (subframe off etc), that would mean about £2500 all in.
And unfortunately, the issue recurred on the way home from their premises... :/

So, at the moment I have 2 options: challenge the dealer on their pledge to repair this, or reject the car. Probably the latter if I'm honest. For the former, I cant see them sanctioning a full repair and billing them back at that price, even though they said they would. Apart from this, its a really nice car unfortunately.

2 questions off the back of this that I hoped some of the minds here could answer:

1)Is this a common thing? I had hoped to leave the EPS issues behind with my last 207
2)Is a new rack/EPS unit at £2k from Peugeot my only option? Are there any refurb or similar manufacturers out there, to maybe try and lower the cost?

thanks

Edited by pugnacious on 04/05/2023 at 09:57

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - elekie&a/c doctor
Not uncommon on these . Probably going to need an electric steering rack assembly. It’s a big job , although there are people that supply refurbished units , it’s still expensive. I would take the option to reject the car .
Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - pugnacious

Ah, ok. Thanks doc.

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - Gibbo_Wirral

A basic scan-any-car reader often fails to pick up lots of fault codes on Peugeots.

They also can't read the BSI log which records every fault permanently - so dodgy dealers can't clear any fault codes!

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - pugnacious

Thanks GW, indeed. Sadly this was all I had to hand on my hardware scanner, and Carista doesn't yet support Peugeot.

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - Gibbo_Wirral

Google "Planet Owners Map" to find local people with a clone of the dealer-only DIAGBOX equipment

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - Bromptonaut

I'd reject it while you still have the time to do so with minimum hassle.

Peugeot 208 2015 1.2VTI - ESP/ASR fault, diagnostic shows C1638 & C1135- EPS - Brit_in_Germany

There's a parallel thread in 'legal' about the rejection issue.