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Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

My neighbour, who had enough problems with his 2.7 XF which finally gave up the ghost has bought an XJ. 3.0 diesel

Anyways, we are off to Belgium in a few days for a boys night out.

Are we mad ?

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - elekie&a/c doctor
Different meat , same gravy . Good luck with that .
Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - paul 1963

ORB, no offence but what is the point of your post? Your neighbours new car or your trip to Belgium? Personally I'd give both a miss if its all the same with you

Second guessing but I assume your proposing to take the jag?

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

ORB, no offence but what is the point of your post? Your neighbours new car or your trip to Belgium? Personally I'd give both a miss if its all the same with you

Second guessing but I assume your proposing to take the jag?

Yes we're taking the XJ. That was the are we mad bit. It's a 2 day road trip destination immaterial.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - mcb100
I ran a 15 year old S-Type 2.7 di sel as a high miles daily driver until fairly recently, doing big journeys up and down the country on a weekly basis.
It died from an accumulation of issues but was an effortless cruiser.
It’ll be fine.

Edited by mcb100 on 28/02/2023 at 20:57

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Metropolis.
Have we become so accustomed to suggesting petrol manual Japanese hatchbacks that we think our national brands will immediately leave us stranded? Enjoy the booze cruise, a fine motor for it, if something does go bang it will be the Ford/PSA engine :-)
Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - pd

The XJ is a lovely car and I couldn't think of anything much better to do a continental jaunt in.

Incidentally, the first XF 3.0 I owned back in 2019 I bought with about 140k on on it (it's probably worth the same now as then) and sold with about 150k. I just did a MOT check and it was last MOTd with no advisories in August with 180557 miles on it.

Edited by pd on 01/03/2023 at 09:58

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

The XJ is a lovely car and I couldn't think of anything much better to do a continental jaunt in.

Incidentally, the first XF 3.0 I owned back in 2019 I bought with about 140k on on it (it's probably worth the same now as then) and sold with about 150k. I just did a MOT check and it was last MOTd with no advisories in August with 180557 miles on it.

It was his choice, I had nothing to do with it, but it is in lovely condition. It failed an MOT 8 years ago on Winscreen washers. Nothing sice, now 120,000 miles

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - pd

There have been cases of the 3.0 crank going but not clear how widespread that is. It certainly has happened but like most things on the internet you'll hear about all the bad cases but not the thousands of others which are just fine.

On the whole it is an excellent engine, way better than the 2.7, more economical, lower emissions, much better performance and more reliable. Frankly if its done 120k it'll probably do 200k no problem.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - John F

There have been cases of the 3.0 crank going but not clear how widespread that is. ......

On the whole it is an excellent engine, way better than the 2.7, more economical, lower emissions, much better performance and more reliable. Frankly if its done 120k it'll probably do 200k no problem.

If it's this engine.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3moekbW6z8&ab_channel...E

.....I wouldn't be so sure about that. 'Excellent'....not! Looks as though you'd be lucky to get a mere 130,000 out of it without a problem.

Edited by John F on 05/03/2023 at 08:42

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - pd

There have been cases of the 3.0 crank going but not clear how widespread that is. ......

On the whole it is an excellent engine, way better than the 2.7, more economical, lower emissions, much better performance and more reliable. Frankly if its done 120k it'll probably do 200k no problem.

If it's this engine.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3moekbW6z8&ab_channel...E

.....I wouldn't be so sure about that. 'Excellent'....not! Looks as though you'd be lucky to get a mere 130,000 out of it without a problem.

Yet I've seen loads of them at 180-200k without problems including ones I've owned.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Xileno

We only read about the broken ones on the web. If that video is correct, then it seems correct servicing will be critical especially the oil level and spec. The section where he talks about oil circulation to the inner bearings would suggest where the problem may be.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - John F

On the whole it is an excellent engine, ...... if its done 120k it'll probably do 200k no problem.

If it's this engine.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3moekbW6z8&ab_channel...E

.....I wouldn't be so sure about that. 'Excellent'....not! Looks as though you'd be lucky to get a mere 130,000 out of it without a problem.

Yet I've seen loads of them at 180-200k without problems including ones I've owned.

I find that hard to believe. One or two perhaps, but not 'loads'. Average mileage of scrapped cars is only around 120,000. Do you perhaps have a conflict of interest here? I have two neighbours with discos - both have had probs with this diesel engine. If I had one I'd treat it ve..e...e..ry gently.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - pd

On the whole it is an excellent engine, ...... if its done 120k it'll probably do 200k no problem.

If it's this engine.......

www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3moekbW6z8&ab_channel...E

.....I wouldn't be so sure about that. 'Excellent'....not! Looks as though you'd be lucky to get a mere 130,000 out of it without a problem.

Yet I've seen loads of them at 180-200k without problems including ones I've owned.

I find that hard to believe. One or two perhaps, but not 'loads'. Average mileage of scrapped cars is only around 120,000. Do you perhaps have a conflict of interest here? I have two neighbours with discos - both have had probs with this diesel engine. If I had one I'd treat it ve..e...e..ry gently.

Treating it gently won't make a lot of difference. To be honest you can't win as Audi and BMW equivalents give you chocolate timing chains and Mercedes not trouble free from the same era.

The engines if they fail seem to fail quite early on, if they make 130k they seem to make 180k. They certainly can and do fail but I'm not convinced it's quite as widespread as the ever reliable internet implies.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - John F

Sounds fun. Statistically, I think the most likely cause of immobilisation would be a faulty component behind the wheel rather than an electromechanical failure.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Metropolis.
I suspect the pick of the bunch for reliability would be the non-supercharged petrol models, but they must be quite rare in uk spec.
Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Engineer Andy

My neighbour, who had enough problems with his 2.7 XF which finally gave up the ghost has bought an XJ. 3.0 diesel

Anyways, we are off to Belgium in a few days for a boys night out.

Are we mad ?

I wonder if that diesel Jag has the same DPF regen issues as the (JLR) Land Rover Disco et al?

To me, trading up to a car with a similar design engine from the same make but which has even more tech to go wrong seems like a bad choice.

Do they like them because of the styling, performance, ride quality (assuming it isn't overly firm), 'brand prestige' / buying 'British'?

I would've gone for a Lexus (doesn't have to be that new either), or perhaps a Beemer if its shod or reasonable tyres.

Have a nice time in beer-land. probably better to go across on the Eurostar rather than by car, especially if you're going to be 'partaking' in the local booze.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

I wonder if that diesel Jag has the same DPF regen issues as the (JLR) Land Rover Disco et al?

To me, trading up to a car with a similar design engine from the same make but which has even more tech to go wrong seems like a bad choice.

Do they like them because of the styling, performance, ride quality (assuming it isn't overly firm), 'brand prestige' / buying 'British'?

I would've gone for a Lexus (doesn't have to be that new either), or perhaps a Beemer if its shod or reasonable tyres.

Have a nice time in beer-land. probably better to go across on the Eurostar rather than by car, especially if you're going to be 'partaking' in the local booze.

He has a specialist to deal with things, he has deep pockets, and he wanted one. He also bought via a friend in the trade.

If we go by train, we can't get our dury free wine beer and spirits on eurostar..and think, Colchester to Liverpool st, met line to St pancras, then eurostar to brussels and change for bruges. Don't forget the capacity limits on eurostar.

Boat is free changes up to 4 hours + or - departure and 40 minutes to bruge from dunkerque. YRG and self have done it 5 times since last may, used to it.

Also there will be some other shopping done too in Auchan, various stuff that is better value.

Horses for courses etc.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - pd

The 3.0 doesn't have DPF issues.

In fact few of the Jaguars do. The Land Rovers have issues because the engine is installed transverse and the gap between the manifold and DPF is too big meaning they don't get hot enough.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

The 3.0 doesn't have DPF issues.

In fact few of the Jaguars do. The Land Rovers have issues because the engine is installed transverse and the gap between the manifold and DPF is too big meaning they don't get hot enough.

Not all range rovers do

it's the vogue and the jaguar e pace that have the problems with incorrect usage. oil dilution etc.

Personally I would not have bought it, but his choice...and for a 11 yr old car it has been extremely well cared for. Jag service history for 8 years, then a specialist .

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Adampr

Can you not go up to Harwich and across to the Hook of Holland anymore? You used to be able to get a train from 'Harwich International ' (Dovercourt) and onwards once you're on the continent.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

Can you not go up to Harwich and across to the Hook of Holland anymore? You used to be able to get a train from 'Harwich International ' (Dovercourt) and onwards once you're on the continent.

No Thanks, & Hours on a stena line ferry?

Colchester to Bruges via Harwich and Hook of Holland by train boat train would be about£300 for both. Without a car.

It would take about 17 hours.

Colchester Dover ferry then to Bruges car generally takes about 6 hours ish, and if we went by train where would we put the wine etc we bought.?

Normal car ferry £39.00 for 24 hour return (this one is a freebie) Fuel costs in the Korando would be £70-80 roundtrip.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Adampr

Ah. Assumed you were going to Brussels.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

Ah. Assumed you were going to Brussels.

No favourite watering holes in Brussels, but plenty in Bruges.

Restaurants in Bruges

De Hoeve, (non touristy) but excellent Burgers in Bruge Bohemian Burgers Touristy but superb and usually a free drink for us.., Pub (amonst others Delaneys Plus all the others that the tourists manage to miss, and our secret cake and pastry shop.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Engineer Andy

Can you not go up to Harwich and across to the Hook of Holland anymore? You used to be able to get a train from 'Harwich International ' (Dovercourt) and onwards once you're on the continent.

No Thanks, & Hours on a stena line ferry?

Colchester to Bruges via Harwich and Hook of Holland by train boat train would be about£300 for both. Without a car.

It would take about 17 hours.

Colchester Dover ferry then to Bruges car generally takes about 6 hours ish, and if we went by train where would we put the wine etc we bought.?

Normal car ferry £39.00 for 24 hour return (this one is a freebie) Fuel costs in the Korando would be £70-80 roundtrip.

Don't forget to pump up the tyres, given it sounds like you'll be coming back with a 'full load'... ;-)

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

Back from our trip, and the cavernous boot swallowed everything, as did we in thr bars and restaurant. Hic...

But I don't want an XJ, had trouble getting in and out, although a very nice place to be, and wafted along very nicely too. but not used to having my backside so near the ground.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - badbusdriver

But I don't want an XJ, had trouble getting in and out, although a very nice place to be, and wafted along very nicely too. but not used to having my backside so near the ground.

My Brother recently bought an Audi A6 3.0 turbo diesel. Dad has only been in it once, but he had an awful job getting out of it because of how low it is.

He much prefers our Suzuki Ignis!.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Metropolis.
Easy ti see why people buy the stablemate Range Rover instead.
Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - RT

But I don't want an XJ, had trouble getting in and out, although a very nice place to be, and wafted along very nicely too. but not used to having my backside so near the ground.

My Brother recently bought an Audi A6 3.0 turbo diesel. Dad has only been in it once, but he had an awful job getting out of it because of how low it is.

He much prefers our Suzuki Ignis!.

Much the same reason I prefer a big SUV - with the seat set at maximum height it's exactly at cheek level when standing in the open doorway so simply have to move sideways to get seated - with the simple reverse when getting out.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Metropolis.
At first I thought you had some kind of monster truck, then I realised which cheek!
Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _
At first I thought you had some kind of monster truck, then I realised which cheek!

Cheeky...

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - Manatee

No need to worry, just make sure you have breakdown and recovery cover. Which you need with any car, to be sensible.

Sounds the ideal car to me.

Jaguar XJ - Taking a chance? - _

No need to worry, just make sure you have breakdown and recovery cover. Which you need with any car, to be sensible.

Sounds the ideal car to me.

But, not for me.

He has recovery and assistance and his son in law is a JLR technician.

I drove the Korando this afternoon to the shops.. what a relief..