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Any - Cars you regret buying - Theophilus

I've observed how most contributors seem very happy with their cars - even if quick to point out the faults and unreliability of other makes. Over the past 50+ years I've bought British, French, Italian, German, Swedish and Japanese cars - some new or nearly new and others second hand (memorably a VW Beetle that I kept the doors shut with a piece a rope pulling the driver & passenger doors towards each other!

Most have been reliable (exceptions were Peugeot and other VWs) but I can't think of any cars that I regretted buying / owning at the time.

So - does anyone admit to making a disastrous buying choice, or do we all choose to see only the best in our vehicles - as of course we do in our partners?

Any - Cars you regret buying - RT

Apart from ORB, no-one ever admits to making a wrong choice in cars.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Crickleymal

Oh I have. I bought a cheap mkq Escort. It lasted about 2 months before the piston seal that the previous owner had used gave up. The Mercedes Vaneo I bought was s*** too. And the Nissan X trail. The best I've owned have been Citroens and Peugeots.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Engineer Andy

Given I've only owned two cars since 1998, I don't have much to choose from and I don't regret buying either car. Perhaps more the price I paid for the first (Micra, second hand), but that was definitely made up for by the huge bargain I got on buying my current Mazda3 back in 2006, so no complaints.

My Dad's 'worst buy' (admitedly this was a company car - his last before early retirement) - or maybe then 'worse choice' was choosing a K reg Escort LX 1.4 - It was woefully slow - dare I say dangerously (when overtaking or pulling out onto a roundabout, etc).

It also had an annoying 'feature' that to open the boot but without the car alarm (horn blaring) going off, you had to unlock the doors first.

God knows how he managed to PX it for about £4000 4 years or so later when buying its replacement, an excellent Fiesta (P Reg) 1.25 LX. Lovely little car all around. He now owns an 08 plate direct replacement that only had the battery replaced at the end of 2020.

Any - Cars you regret buying - SLO76
“ Apart from ORB, no-one ever admits to making a wrong choice in cars”


Oh, I don’t know.

My recent experience with a poorly made and unreliable Volvo XC60 is up there. I hated that car and loads went wrong on it. It was poorly made Chinese rubbish and despite ticking every box when buying it, the thing proved that sometimes you just get it wrong no matter how much you know.

2002 - 52 BMW 318Ci 2.0 - God awful car. Again as above bought as a low mileage approved used example yet everything that could go wrong did. I flogged it to the trade after spending a fortune on it when the timing chain developed a terminal rattle at 47,000 miles. Fortunately the buyer didn’t start it before parting with the cheque. I lost £11,500 in 4yrs and it started my interest in bangernomics. The old Toyota Avensis I bought to replace it cost £1250 and never went wrong. I sold it three years later for £850 and it ran for many years after that.

Edited by SLO76 on 03/04/2022 at 09:23

Any - Cars you regret buying - badbusdriver

We have a 2020 (pre-facelift) Suzuki Ignis AGS (single clutch automated manual). Before choosing this car I had the opportunity to take a used example on a short-ish test drive, during which was happy enough with the gearbox. As we really liked everything else about the Ignis, that is what we chose. We are now nearly two years into our three year tenure with the car and while I'd stop well short of calling it disastrous, I can honestly say I do regret it!. There are situations where the gearbox does not cause too much irritation or problems, but there are more in which it does.

I do love everything else about it though, and when we come to change it, there is every chance I'd have another now that the (post facelift) Ignis has a CVT transmission.

Have to go back quite a long way to find something else I regretted buying. First car was a MK1 Fiesta which turned out to be a right dog. Same goes for my third car, an Opel Ascona.

As far as I recall, I have not regretted any of the many other cars I've had over the years. That isn't to say they didn't have flaws, just not enough to make me wish I hadn't bought it.

Edited by badbusdriver on 02/04/2022 at 18:27

Any - Cars you regret buying - daveyjp

No problem admitting car buying mistakes, however most were due to unreliability rather than not liking them, expect for one.

09 Hyundai i20. Seduced by a long warranty. It was awful in every way, Kept about 12 months.

Unreliable.

Audi A3 2.0tdi 170 DSG 07 reg kept 18 months.

Jag X type 58 reg kept 18 months

Smart forfour, Kept a year.

Any - Cars you regret buying - nick62

Once bought a classic Mini secondhand in the 80's that turned out to be a cut and shut, big regret about that purchase.

Most reliable new car I've owned was a 1996 Peugeot 306 Diesel. Mrs had a new petrol version just as they were going out of production in 2001 and apart from a faulty temperature sensor that too was very reliable, but a bit thirsty (it was a 1.6). I think the 306 was the pinnacle of Peugeot design and they've lost their way since.

Edited by nick62 on 02/04/2022 at 19:40

Any - Cars you regret buying - bathtub tom

Probably all of them:

Hunslett Scootacar, expensive dynastart replacements

Austin A35, rotted.

Morris Minor van, ex GPO, brake master cylinder - repeatedly, oil seals

Ford 100E, rotted, but only cost £5 and i got a couple of quid for it eighteen months later.

Ford Consul Classic, rotted.

Triumph Vitesse 2 litre, broke diff, broke gearbox, rotted, but was fun.

Ford cortina MK3 GT, rotted.

Austin Maxi, probably the best car I owned.

Austin Princess 1800, a close second to the Maxi

Austin Ambassador 1700, gutless, drunk petrol, brake discs and drums constantly needed attention.

etc, etc............................................................. until current Yaris, that's only needed a £100 high level brake light that I managed to repair for a couple of quid

Any - Cars you regret buying - Will deBeast

2001 Saab 9-5 Aero HOT. I couldn't get a comfortable seating position. Got rid 3 months later.

2011 Mazda MX-5. It had a very annoying rattle and vibration from new. Dealer stripped the dash, but no improvement. I still have the car, but it always bugged me. The EGR valve went last year. I had to strip out quite a bit under the bonnet to change the EGR motor, including the strut brace. Since re-assembly the vibration and rattle have gone!

Any - Cars you regret buying - _

YEs, ORB has admitted to "mistakes", but, The lotus, back in 1987. I really was not regretting it, It was an "itch" and my mate who upholsterer made bucket set belts for my two little girls who were 5 and 8. They loved going very fast in it.

BIGGEST regret looking back was the Kia stonic, but i didn't really lose much for 6 weeks, zero if you count the costs of a car anyway, but thankfully, my back, hios and knees have recovered.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Andrew-T

2001 Saab 9-5 Aero HOT. I couldn't get a comfortable seating position. Got rid 3 months later.

Reminds me of one of my purchases which I couldn't live with - 2000-plate Pug 206 Roland Garros. Smart little car which drove nicely, but the seats became increasingly uncomfortable the longer one sat in them. After about an hour it was impossible to continue. Unfortunately test drives are not usually long enough to discover that.

Did a straight swap deal at a nearby trader for a 1999 306 Meridian and never looked back.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Engineer Andy

Another 'not my car buying regret' but of a former rep from a job long ago. He splashed the cash (back in 1997) for a brand new TVR with a the booming V8 engine, but rapidly changed it because he got embarrassed because everyone knew he was coming a mile away because of the noise it made. And because it wasn't exactly a practical car for a rep to own for work use.

He bought a Jeep Cherokee (not the V8) instead. Make of that what you will.

Any - Cars you regret buying - daveyK_UK
Renault Modus

Awful build quality, loads of issues, 2 hours and loads of hassle to change a bulb, part exchanged it for not much less than I paid for it once the V5 turned up a few weeks later

Any - Cars you regret buying - Terry W

Worst buy was about 45 years ago - a Skoda Octavia MB1000 as a s/h purchase.

The only way to start it was with two batteries in series to give 24V, spun the starter very fast and produced a big spark.

Big ends failed, extracted the engine, crank reground, new bearings, put it back together, started fine. Wouldn't go into 3rd gear so used tool of last resort (2lb club hammer). Gearstick then moved but no 3rd gear.

No problem - it still drove - 1st, 2nd, 4th. Finally failed MOT on tin-worm.

Why did I buy it - lots of gizmos compared to Minor 1000, Ford Anglia, etc.

Best buy was also a Skoda Octavia - 1.4TSI, 2011, ran for 10 years and 130k before trade in, 50mpg, spent no more than £200 over the whole period on non-service items.

Any - Cars you regret buying - S40 Man

I regret buying a 2004 Volvo S40 mainly because my Mrs said it sounded a bag of nails and as it turned out it was. It had no end of electrical gremlins. It pained me she knew more about cars than me. Some people just have a good noise for cars don't don't they?

My dad regretted buying a XUD non turbo Citroen ZX. He'd had a turbo which got written off. He went to the garage and they put a great deal for the non turbo so he signed up without a test drive. The turbo made a massive difference to the ZX chalk and cheese, the non-turbo was just so lethargic in comparison.

Any - Cars you regret buying - ExA35Owner

Fiat Strada. Lots of failures, some of them design failures. Awful service from the agent. Parts for routine servicing not in stock nor ordered in time. Depreciated spectacularly. Quite nice to drive.

VW Kombi in the distant past. Great fun when it worked. Had been used by a safari company so had a game hatch, so really good in the national parks, you could stand on the seats and get a great view of wildlife, got to most places (Tsavo, Mara, Nakuru, Hell's Gate) but clearly not up to 4WD work. But main bearings failure, broken torsion bar (off road I suppose you might expect it), all sorts of electrical gremlins, handbrake never worked - no problem with no MoT equivalent required for private vehicles in the 1980s. But you never knew if it was going to start, or to stop when it felt like it, or simply to expire.

Someone mentioned A35s above. I remember having a puncture. The jack had a projection that went into a slot under the door sill, so you lifted one side if the car - only I didn't. The slot moved upwards happily leaving the rest of the car at exactly the same place. Rot indeed.

Any - Cars you regret buying - lucklesspedestrian

My dad regretted buying a XUD non turbo Citroen ZX. He'd had a turbo which got written off. He went to the garage and they put a great deal for the non turbo so he signed up without a test drive. The turbo made a massive difference to the ZX chalk and cheese, the non-turbo was just so lethargic in comparison.

This, incredibly slow, ultimately unreliable and lost a packet on it buying from new on a finance deal in 1994, which to be fair wasn't the car's fault. Learned my lesson though, never did that again. Replaced it with a Carina E petrol which was so much better in every respect. Also bought a Lada 1200 as a second car once which was comically bad. In my defence, those decisions were made under the influence of the tight finances when we were starting off with a young family, big mortgage etc etc. No helpful internet forums in those days either........

Any - Cars you regret buying - Big John

Austin Allegro ?

In some respects the worst car ever, rust rust rust,,,

However in some respects for the time a great car 1750(well mine was) engine , 5 speed box, comfortable, pretty rapid... It was surprisingly torquey and for it's time reasonably economical. Saying that I've always liked the SU carb,

Or Morris Marina 1300

Theoretically should have been a terrible car with it's dodgy reputation - actually I had a 1300 for a couple of years and it was actually ok. No major issues pretty economical and drove reasonably ok. Strangely it had servo assisted drums - probably a mod by a previous owner.

Edited by Big John on 02/04/2022 at 23:53

Any - Cars you regret buying - ExA35Owner

My parents used to deal withba particular garage based on customer service. That meant they could only buy Austin-Morris products. They ran a Mini and then a series of 1100/1300s. Father went in to discuss replacing their 1300, salesman explained that there was a new model in the pipeline (the Allegro) and he wouldn't take an order for a 1300 until he had been to the launch of the Allegro. He phoned the day after the launch, encouraging my father to order a 1300 before production ended, with the words, "I don't see how we will sell any of those [Allegros]"

Any - Cars you regret buying - bathtub tom
Or Morris Marina 1300

I hankered after the 1800 TC. Lighter than the MGB with the same engine, hence quicker. The suspension could be modified to make them go round corners!

Any - Cars you regret buying - FoxyJukebox
A “nearly new” Golf in 2004-big £saving from new. Ha ha…
Engine management light on from day 2, shocking
dashboard rattles,sluggish acceleration and fuel pump failure that took months to diagnose.
Never again.
Any - Cars you regret buying - nellyjak

Only one really...a 2004 Nissan XTrail....nothing massively wrong with it and it never let me down but I found it quite flimsy overall in build quality...just was never able to love it.

It was gone in well under 2 years....and I've bought nothing but Toyota ever since.

Any - Cars you regret buying - UCB
A 2005 Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDI. The belt driving the balancing shafts failed at 49k when the better half was driving on the motorway. Damage also caused to the big end. Eventually sourced a reconditioned belt and the turbo failed on the test drive! Spent over 1k to repair and traded it for a Qashqai within a week of getting a reconditioned turbo fitted.
Any - Cars you regret buying - craig-pd130

My wife's Mark 1 Punto 55 SX was written off by a drunk driver, so we needed a replacement quickly. We decided to get a Corsa D 1.2 petrol as our daughter was learning to drive at the time, and that was what her instructor used so we felt it would be familiar for her when she passed her test.

Oh my word, the Corsa was everything the Punto wasn't. Where the Punto was lively, nippy and fun to drive, the Corsa was stodgy, slow and leaden. Then it ate two water pumps in the space of 6 months (fixed under warranty but still a hassle). An utterly joyless car. Quite why they were so popular, I've no idea.

In fairness, the Corsa E is miles better, which makes it even more difficult to understand why the previous model was so poor by comparison.

Any - Cars you regret buying - primus 1

I had an allegro, it was my second car, I look back on it quite fondly as it was how I learnt diy car mechanics, I fixed countless things on it mechanically and bodywork, I then got a Mazda 323, great car, but sold that for an Alfa sud, saw a bloke drive it into the car park where I worked and asked him if it was for sale, he said yes, ( too quickly I now know) , I probably paid over the odds for it, but it was great, really fast, too fast, as I lost it on an icy road, the dealer wasn’t much help, a real miserable sod who didn’t have the time of day for his customers, incidentally, I had a modus, it was a good car and the mrs loved it, it had no air conditioning and the fan speed, even on full barely made it through the vents, sold that for a Yaris, then lured to the dark side by ford, two fiestas and now a puma.

Any - Cars you regret buying - artill

Honda CR-Z

In almost every way a really good car, but it gave me awful back ache. It didnt show up on the test drive, but it did on the way home. I tried every seat position, but nothing sorted it. I bought it pre registered, and sold it a few months later with a couple of thousand miles on it, for a lot less than i paid. Per mile probably the most expensive car i have owned. Worse still i sold an S2000 to buy it, which have only gone up in value since.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Trilogy.

My wife's Mark 1 Punto 55 SX was written off by a drunk driver, so we needed a replacement quickly. We decided to get a Corsa D 1.2 petrol as our daughter was learning to drive at the time, and that was what her instructor used so we felt it would be familiar for her when she passed her test.

Oh my word, the Corsa was everything the Punto wasn't. Where the Punto was lively, nippy and fun to drive, the Corsa was stodgy, slow and leaden. Then it ate two water pumps in the space of 6 months (fixed under warranty but still a hassle). An utterly joyless car. Quite why they were so popular, I've no idea.

In fairness, the Corsa E is miles better, which makes it even more difficult to understand why the previous model was so poor by comparison.

Agree the MK1 Corsa (Rough) was the worst car I've had the misfortune to drive, same reasons as you, luckily it was for just one day. Driven a 55 and 60 Punto. The 60 was far nicer, had as a hire car, steering was sharper and the engine more responsive. Quite fancy one as a classic runabout.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Palcouk

MB S Class 3 years old low mileage, constant faults finished up taking main dealer to small claims court.

MB E class purchased new local main dealers very snooty, apparently, it's a privilege to own an MB, developed a fault, dealer tried to fob me off by stating it was not a warranty repair, I gave him short shift, they repaired but they made a mistake during the repair, so repair failed and had to be repaired by another dealer, had to threaten court action before original dealer paid up.

Had a succession of Jaguar's including old XJ's never any problems.

Various Porche 911's vastly overrated.

BMW, old ones fine, eg 2002, anything later - not with a barge pole

Last 5 cars being Lexus I don't envisage changing to anything else

Any - Cars you regret buying - Xileno

None really. In the late 1980s I had an old 1977 Golf with worn valve guides and plenty of rust. No power at all (1043cc I think), dreadfully badly geared, it sounded like it would explode above 60mph. But it was reliable and only cost £100 so can't complain...

Edited by Xileno on 03/04/2022 at 12:53

Any - Cars you regret buying - badbusdriver

Agree the MK1 Corsa (Rough) was the worst car I've had the misfortune to drive, same reasons as you, luckily it was for just one day. Driven a 55 and 60 Punto. The 60 was far nicer, had as a hire car, steering was sharper and the engine more responsive. Quite fancy one as a classic runabout.

A couple of weeks ago I noticed a Punto on Autotrader, it was a dark-ish non metallic green 3 door with the blue seat trim. Wasn't that expensive (I think it was around £2-2.5k) and looked in great condition, very tempting!.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Trilogy.

BBD, I look from time to time. A white five door was auctioned yesterday. angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-2nd-sunda.../

Any - Cars you regret buying - badbusdriver

BBD, I look from time to time. A white five door was auctioned yesterday. angliacarauctions.co.uk/classic/saturday-2nd-sunda.../

That is nice.

Pity its white (not a fan of white on most cars), but I'd happily use that!.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Trilogy.

Back to subject, Bread Van VW Polo. Terrible brakes, just 4 speed, and stank of dog wee - never got rid of the smell.

Renault 4 GTL - picked up on a Friday evening and took back to the dealer Monday morning for a refund. Clutch was slipping so badly it needed replacing, bonnet wouldn't open and one of the workshop lads had broken a knob on the brand new graphic equaliser I'd supplied for them to fit. They wouldn't accept responsibility for the breakage. Got my money back bar one month's road tax.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Alby Back
An Espace. But I suppose on reflection, I deserved to regret that. Woeful thing. If it had been a horse, I would have asked a vet to shoot it.
Any - Cars you regret buying - Xileno

You weren't the only one. There was a very long thread here in Technical years ago (2004/5?) regarding the 2.2 dci engine mysteriously cutting out. I don't think anyone ever got to the bottom of it. Shame, as when they worked they were nice cars.

Any - Cars you regret buying - sajid

1994 vauxhall astra 1.4 ls hi torque, basic car everything manual

No pas no electric windows manual sunroof, kept it till traded in for a jazz

It was 60 bhp woefully underpowered and struggled with 4 adults and baggage.

Even the mot guy was saying when u getting rid of it as it was unreliable

Kept stalling once stopped at a busy traffic lights wouldnt start locals had to

Push the car in order to sort out the stalling problem turned out to be

A worn distrubutor parts were cheap for a reason as it kept breaking down

Any - Cars you regret buying - badbusdriver

An Espace. But I suppose on reflection, I deserved to regret that. Woeful thing. If it had been a horse, I would have asked a vet to shoot it.

The fact that its a car is no excuse.

Elvis shot his DeTomaso Pantera because it kept breaking down!.

But even doing what Basil Fawlty did and give the car a damn good thrashing might have helped watch (YT)

;-)

Any - Cars you regret buying - brambobb

My biggest regret was as a result of selling my existing car rather than the quality of the one I bought. I was persuaded by my wife to trade in my beloved Honda Accord for an almost new Audi A4. Within days of purchase I wished that I still had the Accord,

The Audi was fine but I never had the same affiliation to it as I had with the Accord. In the end i traded it in two years later (but no new Accords were available by that time). However I dodged a bullet as I was told that two weeks after trading it the A4 had sprung a massive oil leak, I am not sure what happened after that but the car is shown on the Government website as untaxed since shortly after I had traded it in.

Any - Cars you regret buying - bathtub tom

Biggest mistake I ever made was scrapping a moggie minor van because SWMBO hated it and it needed a new half shaft oil seal.

I've ignored her ever since on the choice of cars.

Any - Cars you regret buying - edlithgow

Worst decision. Triumph 1300 bought by student "syndicate" at auction.

Actually a series of bad decisions, because, once I'd deduced that it had a crack in the bottom of the sump which caused the engine oil to drain into the differential and then out through its breather, we elected to fix it (we were young, and aspired to be mechanical purists) rather than bodge, which I would do without hesitation now

Was a very big job, which we made bigger (and probably less effective) by assembling one gearbox from the "best bits" of the original and the scrap one we bought.

BUT it worked, a bit of a triumph of ignorance over adversity, so I don't really regret it.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Steveieb

Agree with the post above, my biggest regret was buying and Espace.

Lovely idea but so badly executed, in fact that is what should have happened to it.

I broke down three times on the way to Devon, and The same Britannia rescue man came to ur rescue twice within five miles.

On the way back the radiator fan burnt out and filled the cabin with smoke.

No 2 was an Audi A2 TDi 90.

Totally bowled over by the concept as explained by the club members at Kimbolton Classic Show. But one thing after another failed and the awful choppy ride and turbo lag finally persuaded me to part company.

Still love the shape and the seating position , aluminium space frame body and the Owners Club are fantastic in every way.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Moodyman

Bought a 2005 Octavia to replace an accident write off 2007 Toyota Auris.

In theory, it should have been every bit as painless to own as the Auris. Petrol engine, naturally aspirated, chain driven, FSH, no advisories on the MOT (ever), one elderly owner from new. Reputation for durability.

Bought at 94k miles and it was an endless run of niggles and premature wear n tear. Shock absorbers, driver's window regulator, radiator, brake light switch, central locking mechanism, rear wiper motor, seized brake caliper, catalytic converter, fuel pump, starter motor, battery drain (unable to diagnose), alarm going off randomly (unable to diagnose). These are just the things I can remember, there were others.

Have gone back to Toyota - mk2 Yaris and enjoying trouble free motoring again.

Any - Cars you regret buying - badbusdriver

Bought a 2005 Octavia to replace an accident write off 2007 Toyota Auris.

In theory, it should have been every bit as painless to own as the Auris. Petrol engine, naturally aspirated, chain driven, FSH, no advisories on the MOT (ever), one elderly owner from new. Reputation for durability.

Bought at 94k miles and it was an endless run of niggles and premature wear n tear. Shock absorbers, driver's window regulator, radiator, brake light switch, central locking mechanism, rear wiper motor, seized brake caliper, catalytic converter, fuel pump, starter motor, battery drain (unable to diagnose), alarm going off randomly (unable to diagnose). These are just the things I can remember, there were others.

Have gone back to Toyota - mk2 Yaris and enjoying trouble free motoring again.

I thought the chain driven VAG engines were the problematic ones?. And while I am usually thinking about the TSI's here, if memory serves, SLO doesn't rate the reliability of the FSI's either.

Of course this isn't relevant, as the problems you had were not engine related!.

Any - Cars you regret buying - Moodyman

The problematic engines were the later ones. Mine was the FSI. Dull but durable. More a cruiser than a bruiser which suited my driving style.

In fairness, it plodded along and never left me stranded but I would always wondered 'what next?'.

Edited by Moodyman on 05/04/2022 at 12:03

Any - Cars you regret buying - barney100

Mirafiori 1600. Absolute rust bucket, headlights filled with water but to start with good to drive.