Civic and accord after year 2010 not sure whatgearbox they have its not cvt i think :)

So is the standart autogearbox from toyota non cvt any good :)?

how about Jaguar ZF? Or Volvo Aisin autoboxes?

I’ll wager he hasn’t had to deal with many of them beyond the occasional low mileage Polo. Ask any VW specialist however and they’ll be advising caution, especially with the dry clutch variant in lower power VW’s. Yes they do require fluid changes on schedule and missing this would cut lifespan but there’s loads of cases of properly maintained cars with ruined gearboxes. Ask any dealer or group buyer at auction and you’ll hear how wary they are of them. I’ve stood and watched perfectly nice Golfs and polos with DSG boxes fail to sell through the ring as dealers don’t want the hassle. If they do sell they do so for well below book money. My local VW dealer typically refuses to sell any beyond 5yrs of age. Later versions will no doubt be more robust but I simply don’t trust dual clutch gearboxes. DSG and Powershift have tarnished the reputation for me and the trade are rightly wary. I wouldn’t buy one nor would I advise anyone else to do so. The three golden words of of used car buying are ‘keep it simple’ and a highly complex twin clutch automated manual gearbox is as far from this as it’s possible to get.

The problem I suspect is that a lot of (uninformed) car owners wrongly buy cars with dual clutch gearboxes thinking they work similarly to 'traditional' TC auto boxes except that they achieve quicker gearchanges and get better mpg.

DSG type gearboxes are still manuals and still have clutches than can be worn out relatively quickly, rather like a standard manua gearboxl. That people edge forward in heavy traffic or reverse up steep slopes very regularly means their clutch pack will likely wear far more quickly than the equivalent in a TC auto box.

I also suspect that the dealer mentioned above says cars that don't see regular services have failed DSG boxes because the cars are generally mistreated and/or driven unsympathetically - which can include those with low mileages for their age, because most of it was in stop-start traffic.

Dual clutch gearboxes were originally designed for motorsport - for quick, efficient gear changes at speed, not for lolloping around between 0 and 10 mph. Probably why F1 cars can burn out their clutch packs if they hold too long on the grid (at least in the earlier years).