Bullet proof car and very good performance from that 1.33L engine, can’t go wrong with it. The CVT gearbox is boring and lifeless, but it will do its job. After all, it’s a town car, shopping and school runs.
It isn't going to be a 1.33 if it is a 2019 or 2020 car. That engine was replaced by a n/a 1.5 mid 2017.
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Had a look on Autotrader and yes, panoramic roofs are available on the Yaris.
Non hybrid 2019 cars are kicking off at just under £10k, hybrids at £10.5k.
2020 cars, with panoramic roof, are starting off at £17250, without the panoramic roof, just under £17k.
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One point about the 2020 model with the panoramic roof is that you lose the spare wheel that is otherwise included across the whole range. Instead you get a "Tyre Repair Kit" (A.K.A. a can of goop).
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Thank you so much Rich!
Thankfully never used a spare wheel but i guess better to have it than panoramic roof which is just a silly luxury anyway!
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I don't think it's a silly luxury, Anna - I have one on my Peugeot 308SW, and it's great! And if you're never actually going to fit a spare wheel yourself...
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One point about the 2020 model with the panoramic roof is that you lose the spare wheel that is otherwise included across the whole range. Instead you get a "Tyre Repair Kit" (A.K.A. a can of goop).
you will be able to buy a spacesaver (or indeed a full size) spare though albeit it will take up more boot space than a TRK.
The reason that it doesn't come ex factory with a spare with a panoramic roof is the extra weight of the roof can increase the emissions/mpg which affects not only advertising but also manufacturer fleet wide averages & potential fines from the EU.
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Thank you so much Badbusdriver!
I guess i was living without panoramic roof so i can live without it further.. never had one, maybe it leaks as well who knows..
and actually it is quite interesting about hybrids being so much more expensive but i think it is more reliable nowadays or am i wrong?
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That would only be better then, less stress on the engine.
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I guess so.. don't understand anything in it to be honest!
I believe it is always better to buy from Toyota dealership as if anything with the car you can say to the Oi, this is not working or something?
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Thank you so much Badbusdriver!
I guess i was living without panoramic roof so i can live without it further.. never had one, maybe it leaks as well who knows..
and actually it is quite interesting about hybrids being so much more expensive but i think it is more reliable nowadays or am i wrong?
Well comparing the 2019 Yaris, hybrid vs non hybrid, not that much difference at all with the prices I found on Autotrader. The new Yaris is hybrid only, so we can't compare hybrid and non hybrid prices, but as it is a new model, the used prices are higher than the old shape car. Toyota and Honda hybrids have always been very reliable, so no worries at all there.
Within your parameters, that of a 2019 or 2020 Yaris automatic, I'd go for the older car and put the savings towards the Yaris Cross. As for hybrid vs non hybrid on the older car?, if you spend a lot of time on motorways/dual carriageways, I'd probably go for the non hybrid. But if most of your journeys are urban, that is where the hybrid will come into its own, so for the sake of around £500, I'd go for the hybrid.
Re the newer car not having a spare if the panoramic roof is fitted?, absolutely baffled as to why that is!. Don't see why one would affect the other?.
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Thanks a million Badbusdriver!
half of dilemma is sorted now so it has to be 2019 model and hybrid so 1.5 engine the only thing that is left to be sorted is - tyres what to do with them? cheaper range of 15 inch or higher range with 16 inch? do you know what colour is the best to keep the value of the car? i am currently looking at grey ones (i had grey jag before after that grey polo so i am a creature of habit i guess) i am thinking here of reselling point i don't think many people will love white cars and their red and blue looks like luminescent shades!
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Thanks a million Badbusdriver!
half of dilemma is sorted now so it has to be 2019 model and hybrid so 1.5 engine the only thing that is left to be sorted is - tyres what to do with them? cheaper range of 15 inch or higher range with 16 inch? do you know what colour is the best to keep the value of the car? i am currently looking at grey ones (i had grey jag before after that grey polo so i am a creature of habit i guess) i am thinking here of reselling point i don't think many people will love white cars and their red and blue looks like luminescent shades!
I wouldn't get too hung up on the colour, I think that is something which affects bigger cars more. Personally, I wouldn't go for the gold because out of the colours available, I suspect that would be the least desirable to the next owner. I also wouldn't go for white, simply because I don't really like white cars. I'd go for blue or red myself, but if you like grey, go for grey!.
As to the spec (re wheels), assuming you have decided against the panoramic roof, I'd go with the 'Icon'. This is second from the bottom (there is 'Active' at the bottom which you can tell as they don't have alloy wheels) but has everything I'd want in terms of spec. As said, this will give a better ride quality, less road noise, cheaper to replace, and will also use (marginally) less fuel due to lower rolling resistance. But I wouldn't rule out a higher spec car if there is one conveniently located for you. I'm not sure just how much difference the bigger wheels would make, might not be that much?.
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Thank you Badbusdriver!
Yes, if 15'' wheels it has to be Icon there is no other choice and i think for 1-2 years whilst Yaris Cross will be abit down in price, i will survive with trim i do not fancy that much. I have read so many reviews on it and all say 15 wheels are giving better ride and fuel economy.
I was asking it somewhere here - i think it is the best to buy from Toyota dealership as if anything with car i can always knock on their door?
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Re the newer car not having a spare if the panoramic roof is fitted?, absolutely baffled as to why that is!. Don't see why one would affect the other?.
One comment I heard in a YouTube review (not been able to find it again) was that the increased weight of the panoramic roof would impact the fuel economy figures they could publish. They also mentioned that it raises the centre of gravity, but not having a spare wheel low down in the boot would make that worse, not better?
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I was asking it somewhere here - i think it is the best to buy from Toyota dealership as if anything with car i can always knock on their door?
Yes, if you can, buying from a Toyota dealer would be your best option.
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Many thanks Badbusdriver! now i am excited and cannot wait to go and test drive it!
although i am very happy how half a car i have for now drives for i am sure yaris won't disappoint!
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Have you considered the Skoda Superb 1.5 TSI? It’s a great alternative to the Yaris. Much more reliable, driving dynamics similar to a McLaren and the interior of a Bentley. It will last at least 4 years with no major problems and if they do appear, the dealer might sort them out under warranty.
Don’t buy a mediocre car, get a Superb!
Edited by chris87 on 05/04/2021 at 20:46
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Thank you Chris but as i see my future with Toyota i will better stick with it as it will be easier in 1-2 years time to trade it in for Yaris Cross but thank you anyway!
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I was just pulling your leg, sorry for that. It’s an “internal” thing.
The toyota is a good choice and it will be more reliable than every skoda ever made, so enjoy!
Edited by chris87 on 05/04/2021 at 21:06
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"I was just pulling your leg, sorry for that. It’s an “internal” thing."
Indeed it may be but I think it's gone far enough now and it's getting a bit tedious.
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Don't be a spoilsport - I think it's going well! ;-)
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Anyone coming on here would think they were on the Skoda forum and if you put superb into a search engine HJ would pop up as your first option!. Skidpan elected to the Skoda board for services to the company!
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He is entitled to express his views which are clearly based on ownership experiences. I've never even sat in a Skoda so can't comment on the quality of the cars.
However, others are also equally entitled to disagree provided it is done without sniping or personal comments. We wish to maintain the 'soft-touch' moderation style on the forums but this will only work if members respect each other's views and behave in a civilised way - which the overwhelming majority do and we all appreciate that. We will intervene when any posts carry general unpleasantness, offensiveness, rudeness or personal comments; plus of course any spam or breaches of the No Naming & Shaming policy.
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Anyone coming on here would think they were on the Skoda forum
Not necessarily. I informed the OP in another thread that the panoramic roof of her dreams is available on the superb automatic Peugeot 2008.
Disclaimer - I have no personal interest in the well-being of any company under the Stellantis umbrella.
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Thank you Chris but as i see my future with Toyota i will better stick with it as it will be easier in 1-2 years time to trade it in for Yaris Cross but thank you anyway!
Precisely what my wife intends to do...her Yaris Y20 is just over 1 year old now and she has a 3 year maintenance plan with the supplying Toyota dealer..so she hopes to get herself into a Yaris Cross in a couple of years time.
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Yes, it indeed a bulletproof set-up.
I am not a petrol head or give a stuff about anything other than AtoB proposition, however I am running a 2010 MK 2 with the 1.33 from new and so far after 120k the only thing she asked for was a door lock actuator following a sugary treatment from a five years old.
I believe the 11 extra horses in the 1.5 makes little difference TBH, after driving a 2018 courtesy example the main difference was actually a slightly slicker shifter.
I think it's the knife and fork simplicity in these cars plus the quality components and build quality that contributes to why people like these so much.
A very reliable electric steering, manual gearbox, clutch and the weight to power ration of the N/A motor is not a recipe for things to go wrong.
Contrary to what some might say, over long term ownership I personally feel the ride is on the not too firm ride on the 15" shods + never had to replace a suspension component yet.
Edited by JonestHon on 08/04/2021 at 16:12
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If you want to get from A to B without headaches then buy a petrol or hybrid Toyota. The hybrids are even more reliable than the petrols - just about the most reliable machines on the planet!
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I am a member of the UK Yaris forum for yonks, not scientific observation but I see far more issues raised by the owners of the Hybrids then petrol. Are you willing to backup your claim with some facts?
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I’ll bet none of them are clutch related eh ;-)
On a more serious note, we have recently added a CHR hybrid (not a Yaris I know) to our family fleet. I’d be interested in knowing what sort of issues are being reported.
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I am a member of the UK Yaris forum for yonks, not scientific observation but I see far more issues raised by the owners of the Hybrids then petrol. Are you willing to backup your claim with some facts?
LOL! The irony of your comment!
Check out Honest John 2020 Satisfaction Survey - Prius is No. 1 for reliability (Yaris Hybrid powertrain is same fundamental design, but smaller engine). Yaris was No. 2
What Car reliability survey 2019 - Yaris Hybrid No. 1 of all cars.
What Car 2020 Yaris most reliable hybrid - 99.5%, even beats the Lexus. Slightly better than the non-hybrid Yaris on 98.7%. This is cars 2011-2020.
www.whatcar.com/news/2020-what-car-reliability-sur...4
The most common problem problem on Toyota Hybrids is the 12V battery going flat through lack of use (told to me by service manager at a Toyota dealership - a long-time friend of mine). Other problem he sees is the cooling fan at the back getting blocked with debris. DriVetrain faults are extremely rare.
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