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It’s the first one I came across, but doesn’t in any way alter the message.
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Last week on the M5 n/b a loaded transporter, obviously running out of Portbury import centre, came past me, 3 new Rav4 hybrids and 6 Prius.
When you consider just how few transporters there are about presently carrying new cars it does look like Toyota is doing well.
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I don't believe it for one moment. The garages were still closed for the first week and after they opened it was only for customers with appointments and to ensure social distancing not all the sales staff were back at work.
Last week when we drove the Corolla we were at the garage from 12 to 3.30 less the time we we were driving the car, about an hour. During the 2 1/2 hours we were in the showroom and looking at a couple of cars outside not a single customer came into the showroom. In total the sales staff were the one salesman and his sales manager.
The salesman we were dealing with did have another appointment that day but he rang us up earlier to ask if we would like to come now. since his other appointment had just cancelled. Now is difficult when you live about an hour away and the wife is out so we went as arranged.
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I don't believe it for one moment. The garages were still closed for the first week and after they opened it was only for customers with appointments and to ensure social distancing not all the sales staff were back at work.
Last week when we drove the Corolla we were at the garage from 12 to 3.30 less the time we we were driving the car, about an hour. During the 2 1/2 hours we were in the showroom and looking at a couple of cars outside not a single customer came into the showroom. In total the sales staff were the one salesman and his sales manager.
The salesman we were dealing with did have another appointment that day but he rang us up earlier to ask if we would like to come now. since his other appointment had just cancelled. Now is difficult when you live about an hour away and the wife is out so we went as arranged.
The thing is, some people will buy online without a drive or meeting sales teams in person.
It's the modern way.
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It's the modern way.
It's what I did for the Sportage. Went via carwow, and then spoke to saleman to get what colurs available and approx delivery time. Chassis numbers and reg number sent by email.
Chose and did evverything online. Paid the pcp down payment at collection.
Precisely 1 hour in and out, no bull, no hard sell and a very polite exhausted saleman.
I think he had delivered 10 cars on the sunday and 12 on the monday. I was his 3rd at 10.30am on the tuesday.
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The thing is, some people will buy online without a drive or meeting sales teams in person.
It would give me a great deal of satisfaction never to have to meet the sales team again but buying a car without a test drive, never in a million years. If I had bought the Corolla without a test drive both me and the Mrs would never had known that the accelerator pedal caused us both pain after a short time behind the wheel until after we had written a cheque for the best part of £30,000.
Some people may be happy doing that but they must be easily pleased.
Looking at it another way, unless the salesman had suggested we look at the Fabia we would never have known how good they were thus never have bought what has to be one of the bargains of all time for us.
Back to the original topic of the post, after thinking about it I am convinced Toyota have employed the chap who does the Governments daily Covid test figures. Toyota will be including orders that are theoretically in the post amongst other fictitious figures. Or maybe they are including cars they delivered in June that were ordered before Covid.
Looks like Toyota need to be placed on the Liar list now.
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I had driven a Sportage at my local dealer, and after the test drive they initially quoted me £3000 more than Carwow quoted and when he finally found my quote from them it was £500 more than the one i did buy it from and the salesman wasn't too fussed even though he had initially said they would match any other quote.
If he had matched it he would have got the deal.
Edited by _ORB_ on 06/07/2020 at 15:52
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It's the modern way.
It's what I did for the Sportage. Went via carwow, and then spoke to saleman to get what colurs available and approx delivery time. Chassis numbers and reg number sent by email.
Chose and did evverything online. Paid the pcp down payment at collection.
Did you honestly buy the car without driving one, I cannot believe that after all the issues you have had previously.,
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It's the modern way.
It's what I did for the Sportage. Went via carwow, and then spoke to saleman to get what colurs available and approx delivery time. Chassis numbers and reg number sent by email.
Chose and did evverything online. Paid the pcp down payment at collection.
Did you honestly buy the car without driving one, I cannot believe that after all the issues you have had previously.,
See my post just above yours. 3 minutes before, so you probably didn't see it while you were writing. Not to worry, But Thanks for the thought!
Hope you eventually get sorted, but it is more and more of a minefield out there and £2500 seems to be about the current price rise given brexit and antipolution fines .
I had driven a Sportage at my local dealer, and after the test drive they initially quoted me £3000 more than Carwow quoted and when he finally found my quote from them it was £500 more
Edited by _ORB_ on 06/07/2020 at 16:12
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That’s quite an accusation against a good friend of mine who wrote the press release....
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That’s quite an accusation against a good friend of mine who wrote the press release....
Have you read it through?
11638 new cars sold in June.
1619 CHR's
1495 Yaris
1416 RAV 4
Total 4530
So where are the other 7108 from?
There is only the Corolla, Aygo, Prius, Prius +, Camry, Mirai, GT86 and GT Supra left and other than the Corolla (which I am surprised is not No 1) they are all small sellers.
Looks like a serious piece of number massaging to me.
Edited by thunderbird on 06/07/2020 at 16:19
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I think something went a little wrong with the press release, perhaps at the sub-editing stage:
"For Toyota, the C-HR was top-performer in the hybrid line-up in June."
Surely the Corolla outsold the C-HR? Indeed the Corolla probably makes up most of the deficit .
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1619 CHR's
1495 Yaris
1416 RAV 4
Total 4530
Those are the figures for hybrids versions of those models only, & hybrids account for 63.7% of sales ( so leaving ~4225 non-hybrid sales out of the 11638 total) [SMMT has 11705 Toyota registrations in June]
So where are the other 7108 from?
There is only the Corolla, Aygo, Prius, Prius +, Camry, Mirai, GT86 and GT Supra left and other than the Corolla (which I am surprised is not No 1) they are all small sellers.
Corolla hatch, Corolla TS & Corolla Saloon may all be listed separately.
And from above ~ 4225 are going to be non-hybrid vehicles which I admit sounds high when you look at how few of Toyota GB's cars are available with a non-hybrid powertrain these days. According to SMMT figures there were 4200 Yaris registered in June, so 4200 total - 1495 hybrid means 2700 non-hybrid Yaris registered www.smmt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/June-202...g Aygo is also probably going to be into 1K+.
Edited by Heidfirst on 06/07/2020 at 18:36
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The Aygo has been Toyota's second best seller in the UK for a number of years, the Yaris being the best seller.
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The thing is, some people will buy online without a drive or meeting sales teams in person.
It would give me a great deal of satisfaction never to have to meet the sales team again but buying a car without a test drive, never in a million years. If I had bought the Corolla without a test drive both me and the Mrs would never had known that the accelerator pedal caused us both pain after a short time behind the wheel until after we had written a cheque for the best part of £30,000.
Some people may be happy doing that but they must be easily pleased.
It's more like ORB said.
I drove a Grand Vitara at a local dealer but didn't like the deal.
Called a dealer just outside London who had a year old one with minimal miles but a good price.
Agreed price on phone subject to seeing.
Flew down to Gatwick, taxi to dealer at 10AM on a Sunday. Checked car out, transfered funds and drove back home to Scotland.
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Called a dealer just outside London who had a year old one with minimal miles but a good price.
Agreed price on phone subject to seeing.
Flew down to Gatwick, taxi to dealer at 10AM on a Sunday. Checked car out, transfered funds and drove back home to Scotland.
And that is the way to do it, quite why buying something like a car has to be such a drama at a dealership has always been a mystery, these days you can do all of your research without venturing within 50 miles of a showroom, negotiations better done away from the lions den.
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Guy on Jazz forum bought a new hybrid one without a test drive.Just taken delivery three weeks ago.
He appears delighted...
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Most consumers will carry out research online , buying without a test drive is not necessarily a problem.
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I don't believe it for one moment. The garages were still closed for the first week and after they opened it was only for customers with appointments and to ensure social distancing not all the sales staff were back at work.
Last week when we drove the Corolla we were at the garage from 12 to 3.30 less the time we we were driving the car, about an hour. During the 2 1/2 hours we were in the showroom and looking at a couple of cars outside not a single customer came into the showroom. In total the sales staff were the one salesman and his sales manager.
The salesman we were dealing with did have another appointment that day but he rang us up earlier to ask if we would like to come now. since his other appointment had just cancelled. Now is difficult when you live about an hour away and the wife is out so we went as arranged.
The thing is, some people will buy online without a drive or meeting sales teams in person.
It's the modern way.
I did all my physical looking and test driving at main dealers, then was ready to buy over the phone/online, ending up buying via Motorpoint a pre-regged car. I would've gone via the dealers, had they been able to offer the same discounts, but there was no way I was missing out (back in 2005/6) on an extra £2k - £3k saving.
As has been said, most people also don't like haggling, so if the cheapest offer is available without having to do so, then why not buy that way?
Admitedly I did have to drive to pick up my new car, but then I was also PXing it with them, which was easy and painless, so I didn't mind, especially with the huge discount I was getting on the new car.
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I did all my physical looking and test driving at main dealers, then was ready to buy over the phone/online, ending up buying via Motorpoint a pre-regged car. I would've gone via the dealers, had they been able to offer the same discounts, but there was no way I was missing out (back in 2005/6) on an extra £2k - £3k saving.
As has been said, most people also don't like haggling, so if the cheapest offer is available without having to do so, then why not buy that way?
Admitedly I did have to drive to pick up my new car, but then I was also PXing it with them, which was easy and painless, so I didn't mind, especially with the huge discount I was getting on the new car.
I bought a car from Motorpoint in 1998. They had only recently opened and just had the one branch in Derby. It was quite a drive to collect it but well worth it considering the £3000 over the local dealer.
We had already driven a couple of cars locally but the dealers would not budge on price. Phoned Motorpoint and they had exactly what we wanted coming direct from Germany at that moment so I put a credit card deposit down over the phone and waited. 2 weeks later got the call and went to collect. Inspected car and there was a parking dent on the drivers door (pretty obvious - should have been spotted at prep) but they said no problem, take the car and we will get the dent man to come over to you next week. Was not happy to hand over the money on a damaged car but then it turned out Motorpoint were not happy about sending their chap on a 4 hour drive to sort it either. Instead of loosing the sale they offered a £200 reduction if I left he car and collected it the following week, agreed.
Car was fine and we kept it for about 10 years and over 100,000 miles.
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But none of those will be Auris models, they stopped selling them last year.................
I think not, my local Toyota dealer still sells the Auris. They have about 10 lined up on the forecourt, mostly 2017-2019 models.
Edited by TQ on 07/07/2020 at 23:41
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But none of those will be Auris models, they stopped selling them last year.................
I think not, my local Toyota dealer still sells the Auris. They have about 10 lined up on the forecourt, mostly 2017-2019 models.
Your Toyota dealer will still be selling Auris models (just like may garages around the country) but as you state in your reply they are 2017 - 2019 cars.
This thread is about new registrations in June this year (2020) which is why I stated that Toyota no longer sell the Auris, it was replaced by the Corolla last year.
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