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All - Rev counter - dan86

Whilst board at work stuck in traffic I was wondering why cars don't have the green amber and red (I know they have red) on the rev counter like most heavy commercial vehicles. All lorries, buses and some Van's (old IVECO) have this and it's good indication of where peek power and torque are in the rev range and where most economical keep the revs.

Has there ever been any cars with this?

Why don't cars have this?

Would people make use of it.?

All - Rev counter - badbusdriver

Plenty of cars have had something similar in concept for many years now, be it an economy guage, a gearchange indicator, gearchange lights built into the steering wheel, etc. On our Honda Jazz, the lighting surrounding the rev counter and speedometer changes coulour depending on whether you are driving efficiently or otherwise. I think the first time i saw something like this on a car was in a 1980's BMW (3 series i think), it was just a simple guage to show if you were driving efficiently or not, but it did the job if you were interested.

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Edited by badbusdriver on 13/01/2020 at 17:50

All - Rev counter - dan86

Plenty of cars have had something similar in concept for many years now, be it an economy guage, a gearchange indicator, gearchange lights built into the steering wheel, etc. On our Honda Jazz, the lighting surrounding the rev counter and speedometer changes coulour depending on whether you are driving efficiently or otherwise. I think the first time i saw something like this on a car was in a 1980's BMW (3 series i think), it was just a simple guage to show if you were driving efficiently or not, but it did the job if you were interested.

I've seen the economy gauges ect bot my cars have them as do most now days and one has the up down arrows. Maybe they think this will be more informative than the traffic light system used on heavy commercial vehicles.

One of my last CPC courses was about fuel economy and green band driving. It was all about keeping it in the green band as much as possible which in practice is a good idea and will save fuel but working in one of the hillest parts of london doesn't get you high marks on the tracker system .

All - Rev counter - DavidGlos
I guess a truck has a considerably narrower power band than a typical car, perhaps only around 1,000 RPM or so, whilst a car would be 2-3 times wider than that.

Edited by DavidGlos on 13/01/2020 at 20:28

All - Rev counter - Bromptonaut

I've a pretty good idea of where peak torque is/was in any car I've owned and it's not where the 'nag light' thinks I should change up - 3k+ revs not <2k.

Tachometer helps but for years in Mini (the sort Issigonis designed) and other cars I judged it by ear.

All - Rev counter - bathtub tom

My Yaris has 'nag' lights, indicating when you should change up or down. Improved SWMBOs driving no end, she no longer chugs round corners in two gears too high.

I do sometimes get a bit of earache about 'why didn't you change up earlier' when I do a block change from, say 3rd to 6th.

All - Rev counter - John F

An intelligent autobox will always select the appropriate gear and thus revs for the circumstances, so any colour bands would be superfluous. Even with a 'tiptronic' type, it will override any unwise attempt to select an inappropriate gear, so the engine is protected, and probably will last longer.

All - Rev counter - Bromptonaut

An intelligent autobox will always select the appropriate gear and thus revs for the circumstances, so any colour bands would be superfluous.

Agree not much use in full auto, whether TC or CV type (although the few I've driven have hold or low function - the latter for long descents) however OP did not mention manuals. In the tiptronic scenario while I'd appreciate it stopping anything damaging I'm not sure I'd rely on the automation to change at correct point, certainly not if it's driven by same logic as a manual's nag lights.

All - Rev counter - dan86

Appart form a brief spell in an elderly daf lorry last year I've driven automatic lorry for the last 10 years before that it was and 8 speed range changer Mercedes. All auto lorries I've driven either tc or automated manual have changed up at the end of the green band unless you floor it for kick down. To some extent most automatic cars I've driven have changed gear without over revving unless I've hit the kick down.

All - Rev counter - sammy1

. I think the first time i saw something like this on a car was in a 1980's BMW (3 series i think), it was just a simple guage to show if you were driving efficiently or not, but it did the job if you were interested.

Yes if you were interested! Later evolved to be called Efficient Dynamics or just another excuse to fill up the dash. I found it really annoying watching the dial continually moving from blue to red when it was perfectly obvious as to the manner in which you were driving. As stated somewhere else, the Auto on these cars would change at the optimum if left to its own.

All - Rev counter - Gibbo_Wirral

I had a Maestro with an "econometer"

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Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 15/01/2020 at 12:18

All - Rev counter - nick62

Tachometer helps but for years in Mini (the sort Issigonis designed) and other cars I judged it by ear.

Rev it 'till you hear the valves bouncing, then change up. ;)