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I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - Avant

Many thanks and welcome to the forum.

Out of interest, which country are you in? I don't think the Kia Forte is available in the UK, which is where we're based.

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - badbusdriver

www.kia.com/us/en/forte

No, it isn't. Not sure all the places it is available, but USA is one of them,

www.kia.com/us/en/forte

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - RT

The Kia Forte shares its underpinnings with the European Kia Ceed

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - gordonbennet

I wish we could get some of the models available readily in the USA, though the heavy UK taxes on our fuel and VED (road tax, we live to pay taxes here, even when you die they grab a slice)) has always been a decider for most of us, i'd have had a Camry on the drive for years had the better engined version after around the mid noughties been available here.

A few years ago i happened upon ebay motors instead of ebay uk, what was really interesting is the amount of pictures of parts of the cars few people in the UK ever get to see, it was the first time i'd come across Genesis as a make to see in close up, and their V8 was featured on the bay by one dealership with probably 50 high quality photos which put to shame the hazy (almost silk stocking over the lens to hide the reality) virtually useless bog standard pics of the parts we are allowed to see in the UK.

Must have been 20 hi res pics from every conceivable angle taken from underneath of tyhat V8 Gen whilst on a workshop lift, i'd been carrying Hyundai/Kias for years anyway, i'd seen how they were made close up anyway, with Kia's Ceed being a benchmark when it arrived, Genesis took that constantly improving build quality to another level entirely, as it should being Hyundai's Lexus equivalent, it made me realise that Hyundai/Kia had come of age and they had Toyota/Lexus attention to build quality and durability, rather than the German marques increasingly less durable offerings, in their sights.

Welcome to the forum, always interesting to here what drivers in other parts of the world are buying and why.

Edited by gordonbennet on 28/10/2019 at 10:40

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - badbusdriver

I wish we could get some of the models available readily in the USA, though the heavy UK taxes on our fuel and VED (road tax, we live to pay taxes here, even when you die they grab a slice)) has always been a decider for most of us, i'd have had a Camry on the drive for years had the better engined version after around the mid noughties been available here.

A few years ago i happened upon ebay motors instead of ebay uk, what was really interesting is the amount of pictures of parts of the cars few people in the UK ever get to see, it was the first time i'd come across Genesis as a make to see in close up, and their V8 was featured on the bay by one dealership with probably 50 high quality photos which put to shame the hazy (almost silk stocking over the lens to hide the reality) virtually useless bog standard pics of the parts we are allowed to see in the UK.

Must have been 20 hi res pics from every conceivable angle taken from underneath of tyhat V8 Gen whilst on a workshop lift, i'd been carrying Hyundai/Kias for years anyway, i'd seen how they were made close up anyway, with Kia's Ceed being a benchmark when it arrived, Genesis took that constantly improving build quality to another level entirely, as it should being Hyundai's Lexus equivalent, it made me realise that Hyundai/Kia had come of age and they had Toyota/Lexus attention to build quality and durability, rather than the German marques increasingly less durable offerings, in their sights.

Welcome to the forum, always interesting to here what drivers in other parts of the world are buying and why.

I have been visiting Ebay USA for years now GB, to look at cars!. The first time was when i had a particular hankering for an ex-police Ford Crown Victoria, in white or black, with the 'push bar' and spotlights on the A pillars, like this one!,

www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Police-I...0

Still would like one, if i had the money, hey ho!

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - gordonbennet

I like Crown Vics too, but debadged, partial to the later Dodge Chargers as well, nothing quite like a proper V8 north/south engine RWD layout and if LPG available locally they can be quite affordable and much different runners, wish conversions had been so readily available when i had my Mustang in a previous life, dread to think what my fuel figures were when at full throttle it would change up out of first at 60mph and yelp the drive tyres in the dry, great fun :-)

Could you imagine the reality shock for so many buyers if those underbody pictures found on US and Japanese sales sites were also the case here, those who tell us rust is a thing of the past would have to rethink pdq.

Edited by gordonbennet on 28/10/2019 at 12:07

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - badbusdriver

Could you imagine the reality shock for so many buyers if those underbody pictures found on US and Japanese sales sites were also the case here, those who tell us rust is a thing of the past would have to rethink pdq.

Yeah GB, absolutely!. It was a bit of a shock on Ebay USA seeing the vast amount of high quality pics of every single angle of the car, including underneath. And not just expensive cars either. Im my experience, amongst the worst culprits are Japanese imports. The pics on Ebay are invariably of the type which you can't zoom in on, they are usually a bit fuzzy, and usually there are only about 4 or 5 pics taken in what looks like an underground car park, a warehouse, or something similar.

It is one thing if a private seller isn't able to take decent pics, it might be an older person who's eyesight isn't that great, or has older phone with rubbish camera. But when you get rubbish pics from 'professionals', it isn't acceptable and just makes you think they are trying to hide something!

I traded in my 2014 Genesis Coupe for a 2020 Kia F - Engineer Andy

The OP must be from North America as they refer to the Hyundai Elantra (the i30/40 in the UK), the Mazda6 2.5T (not available in the UK [wish it was]), the Civic Si (I think that's the warm-hatch version in North America remember a 'Straight Pipes' review) and the Velociter (no longer available in the UK, and the N version was never available, only the i30N).

I suspect our friend from over The Pond may think this is the .com (US-based) website which has nothing to do with the .co.uk version.

There are often significant spec and engine differences from Euro-spec cars to North American and Down Under ones, mostly the prevalence of bigger, more powerful engines.