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Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Mongrel Matt
Hey all
I’ve narrowed down my hunt for a mid sized SUV with the following requirements:
- Diesel (I do 13-16k miles/year)
- Automatic
- Sat nav, xenon, heated seats
- Approx £15k budget
- Don’t like French, British, Korean or Italian brands

I test drove various models and have narrowed it down to:

- Mazda CX-5
- BMW X1
- BMW X3
- Nissan Qashqai

I’ve been put off by the reliability issues with Qashqai so realistically I think it’s got to be the Mazda or BMW.
Which car from the list would you choose or not choose? I’d really appreciate any advice based on your own experience and not some forum hearsay’s. Thanks!
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - daveyjp

Avoid Mazda diesels.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Xileno

Doesn't leave very much...

Nissans in Europe are basically Renaults, which you don't want.

I would avoid BMW, their reliability is not better than average.

Possibly a Toyota SUV, maybe a RAV4?

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - sammy1

The 2.0 auto X3 is a really nice car, Comfortable roomy handles very well and all the performance you need MPG not that good though

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Mongrel Matt
Thanks for the advice so far.

@Davey - Is the CX5 diesel that bad?

@Xileno - I’ll take a look at RAV4, but the interior/exterior doesn’t look that great and I kinda put Honda CRV in the same “reliable but dull interior” camp.

The only car that I haven’t driven is the VW Tiguan. Is it any good?
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - badbusdriver

Wouldn't be tempted by any of that selection to be honest, none are very reliable. Would't have anything from VAG either due to that DSG gearbox, even if it had the 'wet clutch' type.

And by the way, as Renault own Nissan and the Qasqai is based on the Megane, essentially it is a French car.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Falkirk Bairn

Just buy a petrol - pay through poorer mpg but avoid LARGE diesel repair costs.

Suzuki Vitara (HJ likes them) Subaru petrols are thirsty but seem to last - CRVs on petrol like a drink

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - FP

"Is the CX5 diesel that bad?"

Mazda's poor reputation with diesels goes back some way; the jury is out on the current engines. However, I wouldn't risk it. When I bought my CX-5 (which is a lovely car to drive) I made sure it was petrol, which probably wouldn't suit you, as the performance is fairly tame and I don't believe auto is an option anyway.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - SLO76
“ The only car that I haven’t driven is the VW Tiguan. Is it any good?”

Uses VW’s now notorious DSG gearbox so again not something you’d want to own outside of the manufacturers warranty.
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Will deBeast
Hey all I’ve narrowed down my hunt for a mid sized SUV with the following requirements: - Diesel (I do 13-16k miles/year) - Automatic - Sat nav, xenon, heated seats - Approx £15k budget - ...

But for the Korean preference, that sounds like a Kia Sportage.

Designed by Peter Schreyer, who designed the Audi TT.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Zippy123
Hey all I’ve narrowed down my hunt for a mid sized SUV with the following requirements: - Diesel (I do 13-16k miles/year) - Automatic - Sat nav, xenon, heated seats - Approx £15k budget - ...

But for the Korean preference, that sounds like a Kia Sportage.

Designed by Peter Schreyer, who designed the Audi TT.

I have a Hyundai Tuscon (basically the same as a Sportage). DCT auto 1.7TDI.

I like it. It's done just under 60k miles in 2.5 years.

It has had its problems, many cars do. The dealer couldn't resolve a cut in power / refusal to accelerate issue as they couldn't duplicate it. Once I videoed it and the dealer sent the video to Hyundai technical the issue was resolved within 3 days and a new part was fitted.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - John F
Designed by Peter Schreyer, who designed the Audi TT.......

...and the first Audi A6, which still looks timelessly modern compared with the old 'three box' design of the BMW 5 and MB E class from the same era - its same sized and powered competitors. If it wasn't for my present wheels I'd still have one.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Mike H

So you are worried about reliability issues on the Qashqai, but reject the RAV4 and CR-V as "reliable but dull"? You can't have it all ways! Perhaps you should examine your priorities - image, reliability, comfort, economy.....

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - SLO76
Wouldn’t touch a diesel Mazda, they’ve a terrible reputation for failures, the BMW X1 is small and poorly made, the X3 is good but strong money and not terribly reliable in the longterm and the Nissan is nothing more than a Renault Megane on stilts, it’s unworthy of this comparison.

My money would (and likely will next year) go on a late previous gen Honda CRV 1.6 Twin turbo DTEC Ex auto. It’s well made, has no real vices, is hugely spacious, comfortable, ok on fuel and will be an easy sell when you’re done with it. The only problems this shape of CRV seem to suffer relate to the weak clutches on manual versions, the auto of course bypasses this worry.

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Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Nickdm
Mitsubishi Outlander fits the brief. I have had one for almost 5 years and 40,000 miles. No issues with reliability so far. Torque converter autobox, full-sized spare wheel, 7 seats and around 40mpg. Not a flash car but hard to fault it really.
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - barney100

Volvo XC60 should be on your list.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - carl duck
Can I suggest you save a stack of money and buy a fiat I have an 2006 1.6 and. It’s big enough for three adults in the back. Does around 35 mpg and touchwood ha never been a problem. Sti looks in new condition and they built as different cars by fiat and Suzuki till 2914 in the same model guise. I think that tells you something.

Ok it’s not a car but so what.

Find a nice low miles petrol.

Only gripe is the 1.6 petrol is a bit underpowered and slow.

But we are talking and cars here.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - carl duck
Can I suggest you save a stack of money and buy a fiat I have an 2006 1.6 and. It’s big enough for three adults in the back. Does around 35 mpg and touchwood ha never been a problem. Sti looks in new condition and they built as different cars by fiat and Suzuki till 2914 in the same model guise. I think that tells you something. Ok it’s not a car but so what. Find a nice low miles petrol. Only gripe is the 1.6 petrol is a bit underpowered and slow. But we are talking and cars here.

The car is a Fiat Sedici. Sorry didn’t add that.
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - KB.

The OP clearly set out his requirements right at the outset.

Diesel (I do 13-16k miles/year)
- Automatic
- Sat nav, xenon, heated seats
- Approx £15k budget
- Don’t like French, British, Korean or Italian brands

And you've suggested a smallish car instead of a mid sized SUIV.

He wants auto and the Sedici isn't available as an auto.

It's a Fiat and he said he doesn't want Italian.

He hasn't asked for something that'll save him a stack of money, he said he'll pay up to £15 grand.

He wants Xenon lights, heated seats and built in Sat Nav.

So, apart from that a Sedici fits the bill nicely.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - badbusdriver

The OP clearly set out his requirements right at the outset.

Diesel (I do 13-16k miles/year)
- Automatic
- Sat nav, xenon, heated seats
- Approx £15k budget
- Don’t like French, British, Korean or Italian brands

And you've suggested a smallish car instead of a mid sized SUIV.

He wants auto and the Sedici isn't available as an auto.

It's a Fiat and he said he doesn't want Italian.

He hasn't asked for something that'll save him a stack of money, he said he'll pay up to £15 grand.

He wants Xenon lights, heated seats and built in Sat Nav.

So, apart from that a Sedici fits the bill nicely.

Yes, a very odd suggestion indeed!. For all that i'm not impressed by any of the OP's own candidates, the Fiat Sedici passes so wide of his requirements, carl duck might as well have suggested a horse and cart.

And if, for some reason, the OP decided he did want to save a heap of money getting such a car, the obvious choice would be the Suzuki SX4 which is far, far more comonly available than the (otherwise identical) Sedici!.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Xileno

Maybe a Ford Kuga?

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - SLO76

Maybe a Ford Kuga?

Hugely unwise for anyone seeking a reliable automatic SUV. Google Ford Powershift gearbox failures you see a long long list of woe.
Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - pd

As above, Volvo XC60 would probably be top of my list bearing in mind the type of use.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - colinh

With the "globalisation" of the auto industry, it's difficult to escape things like "Italian" - following a recent accident (no fault) was surprised to find a VW Golf's steel was all marked "VW Italy" - is that a German or Italian car?

With your fairly average mileage, a diesel is difficult to justify on long-term cost grounds

Might be worth looking at a s/h self-charging hybrid - should be able to pick-up one with a reasonable length of warranty remaining for the money you have available

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - RT

With the "globalisation" of the auto industry, it's difficult to escape things like "Italian" - following a recent accident (no fault) was surprised to find a VW Golf's steel was all marked "VW Italy" - is that a German or Italian car?

With your fairly average mileage, a diesel is difficult to justify on long-term cost grounds

Might be worth looking at a s/h self-charging hybrid - should be able to pick-up one with a reasonable length of warranty remaining for the money you have available

Italian steel has a poor reputation!

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - piggy

Italian steel has a poor reputation!

And when was the last time you saw a rusty Italian car? Not the early eighties I'll warrant.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - SLO76
“ Italian steel has a poor reputation!”

That reputation was earned back when they were using cheap Russian steel from the deals the did with the then USSR to set up their car industry. It’s unjustified today.

Edited by SLO76 on 29/10/2019 at 14:26

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - badbusdriver
“ Italian steel has a poor reputation!” That reputation was earned back when they were using cheap Russian steel from the deals the did with the then USSR to set up their car industry. It’s unjustified today.

Yes, poor old Lancia suffered most. The irony is that after the rust fiasco on series 1 Beta's, Lancia sorted things out and offered a a 6 year anti corrosion warranty, almost unheard of in the UK at the time. The series 2 Beta was probably one of the best protected cars against rust at the time. But alas, the damage had been done, and the UK buyers were both unforgiving and had long memories!.

Best mid-sized auto/diesel SUV under £15k? - Xileno

The French makes were also quite bad in the 70s, maybe not quite as bad but certainly in the same ball park. They somehow managed to avoid obtaining anything like as bad a reputation.

Ironically they as well went on to become some of the most corrosion-resistant cars on the roads. I remember a Car Mechanics article a few years ago where they went around some scrap yards and reviewed the cars. I seem to remember all the French makes came out top, both PSA and Renault all rated far higher than some prestigious makes costing a lot more.

Edited by Xileno on 29/10/2019 at 16:53