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new driver car purchase advice - Bzs

Having looked around I came across this site by chance ... basically looking for some advice and this seems to be the perfect place

Just getting my licence done. Only decided to drive as my family was expanding and found it difficult to manage on public transport. I am in my mid 30s and have a toddler and an infant.

I was thinking a medium sized car, perhaps a hatchback would be perfect. Petrol. Manual. Under £6000. Needs to be safe and have enough space for two buggies and some more.

There are as many suggestions as there are people ... from Yaris/Auris ... Nissan ... Mazda ... to Accord ... Focus ... to Kia sportage ... so I am starting to get a little lost.

I would appreciate some advice here. Yaris/Auris seem on the small side. Focus seems to have decent space and reviews. Sportage looks decent too. Accord seem hard to find.

Lastly, should I go for new or used? I assume a unanimous latter.

Many thanks

new driver car purchase advice - SLO76
Where roughly do you live? Also, is image a concern? Would you be happy in an Focus Estate for example?
new driver car purchase advice - Bzs

London. Not really bothered with image. Just want something practical and reliable ... and not pink. Just googled the estate and it looks alright to me (I hear people associate stereotypes with certain cars but I am not bothered)

new driver car purchase advice - SLO76
Practical and reliable...

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All are simple petrol engined cars which have good reputations for longevity and low running costs but I stress that I’m only looking at adverts and cannot recommend a single car without viewing it so you’ll need to take someone with you to look it over. The Civic or the Auris are the safest bets which will almost certainly run flawlessly, the Civic has a huge boot and decent back seat too. In fact for £6k I’d say it’s the best used family car you could buy. Normally I’d recommend the 1.8 petrol but as insurance is an issue the 1.4 is quite acceptable compared to other similar small engines rivals.

Edited by SLO76 on 06/06/2019 at 00:26

new driver car purchase advice - badbusdriver

For £6k you could get a brand new bog standard Dacia Sandero, but that is about the only option for a new car unless you trawl through the car brokers/ car supermarkets (where you might get something a little more appealing). And bear in mind it will be white, it won't have a radio, and you will have to wind up the windows yourself!>

As for used. You say medium sized, i'm assuming that means VW Golf/Ford Focus sized?. I don't think there is any need to go for anything bigger (such as a Honda Accord).

So, in no particular order, my suggestions would be (along with the youngest example you'd get with >70k miles for your £6k)

Ford Focus 1.6 2014.

Honda Civic 1.4 or 1.8, 2013.

Toyota Auris 1.33 or 1.6, 2013.

Mazda 3 1.6, 2013.

Kia Cee'd 1.4 or 1.6, 2014.

Hyundai i30 1.4 or 1.6 2014.

If you want a higher seating position,

Kia Soul 1.6 2014

Kia Venga 1.4 2016

Hyundai ix20 1.4 2015

Ford C Max 1.6 2014

If you think you could manage with a slightly smaller car,

Toyota Yaris 1.33 2015

Honda Jazz 1.2 or 1.4 2015

Kia Rio 1.25 or 1.4 2016

Hyundai i20 1.25 or 1.4 2016

All of those suggestions are inherently reliable, but obviously there needs to be evidence of having been looked after (service history). Bear in mind that Kia's come with a 7 year warranty, so assuming a proper dealer service history, that 2016 Rio will still have 4 years warranty remaining. Hyundai's have a 5 year warranty, so even the i20 will still have a couple of years left. Current Toyota's have a 5 year warranty, but i'm not sure when they changed to 5 from 3, but they are very, very reliable. I have not mentioned the Mazda 2, as while a cracking little car, your budget being what it is would only stretch to the last of the previous style, which will probably be a little small for all your stuff. The Honda Jazz has an amazing amount of interior space along with a boot closer in size to a Focus than a Fiesta. it also has Honda's brilliant 'magic seats', where the rear seat bases fold up to reveal a large space which can be used as a 2nd boot behind the front seats for taller stuff.

new driver car purchase advice - Theophilus

As you are only just getting your licence and live in London I would suggest that you factor into your choice of car the difference in insurance costs between different models - it may be much more than you expect.

new driver car purchase advice - drd63
I’d go new and lease. Some great deals around. Reliable, safe, warrantied, known cost. Mid size hatch would seem ideal. I had a 2019 1.0 Focus as a courtesy car last week - fantastic.
new driver car purchase advice - Warning

Have you just passed your driving test? Then your insurance costs will be sky high. You need to work backwards, get insurance quotes and then see what you have left over. You should get quotes for comprehensive insurance and legal cover. You need to allow for servicing costs and parking costs etc...

When I passed my test, I was a nervous driver, so can you driver with distractions such as children in the back and lunatic drivers, cyclist etc,,,?

In London there are a number of car clubs, which may be appropriate. They are expensive, but can work out better in some cases. You need to read the small print. Some include fuel and insurance. You will get newer cars. That combined with Uber etc... it might just work for you, depending on the journeys you want to make.

A £6,000 car, will loose about £900 per year in value.

new driver car purchase advice - badbusdriver

Have you just passed your driving test? Then your insurance costs will be sky high. You need to work backwards, get insurance quotes and then see what you have left over. You should get quotes for comprehensive insurance and legal cover. You need to allow for servicing costs and parking costs etc...

When I passed my test, I was a nervous driver, so can you driver with distractions such as children in the back and lunatic drivers, cyclist etc,,,?

In London there are a number of car clubs, which may be appropriate. They are expensive, but can work out better in some cases. You need to read the small print. Some include fuel and insurance. You will get newer cars. That combined with Uber etc... it might just work for you, depending on the journeys you want to make.

A £6,000 car, will loose about £900 per year in value.

For someone in their 30's the insurance is only going to be sky high if something extremely fast or powerful is chosen. A 1.6 Focus isn't going to be that expensive.

As for a £6k car losing £900 per year in depreciation?. Maybe in the 1st year you have it, but it won't continue at that rate. Otherwise, if we take that 1.6 Focus as an example, bearing in mind £6k will get you into a 2014 example, that would make a 2007 Focus free. Look on Autotrader and there are quite a few 2007 Focus with asking prices of £3k.

new driver car purchase advice - Bzs

Thank you for all your generous suggestions. Yes, I am a freshly minted driver with families' safety in mind first above anything else so won't be looking for anything crazy. Cheap and practical is fine.

We have spent the last few days looking at various cars and are arriving to the conclusion a small/mid sized MPV/SUV is best. We love the Peugeot 3008 Petrol. here is an example:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20190422720...1

Interestingly we can see 3008's available at a £sub-4k price point but no 2008's.

Others are Kia Soul or Sportage or Peugeot 2008. However, we don't see many 2008s at lower price points.

new driver car purchase advice - badbusdriver

The reason you can't find any sub £4k Peugeot 2008's is simply because they are much more desirable than the 1st gen 3008 with its rather akward proportions.

Given the choice between a Peugeot 3008 and a Kia Soul or Kia Sportage, it would be the Soul for me all day long.

new driver car purchase advice - SLO76
I wouldn’t touch the 3008. The VTi petrol motors are known for timing chain failure among other issues. This wasn’t a good time for Peugeot with poor reliability from both the VTi motors and the popular 1.6 diesels. Again I’d advise going for something Japanese at this money or a Ford Focus or C-max with the Yamaha designed 1.6 petrol.

Edited by SLO76 on 12/06/2019 at 00:45