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Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Silas Marner

My petrol manual Seat is coming to the end of its warrenty period and I have to decide whether to continue getting it serviced at the main dealer I bought it from, who doesn't appear to have done much to it apart from changing the engine oil, or using one of a number of independent VAG self-styled 'specialists'. Any advice on the pros and cons would be gratefully received.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - John F

Modern cars require very little attention beyond changing the engine oil during the first 10yrs / 100,000 miles. If you intend selling it after a few years, a service history might possibly be worth more than it costs to obtain it, but if you intend to keep it indefinitely it is best either to do it yourself or to establish a relationship with a good indy that does MoTs. Much 'servicing' is mainly checks, which are done at MoT time. Our Ford Focus, bought at over 3yrs old and 29,000 miles, has never had a 'service' since then. It is now 18yrs old, 137,000 miles and going very nicely, thank you. Goodness knows how much I have saved by not having a 'service' every year!

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Happy Blue!

But John, you know what you are doing. The OP may not and doesn't want to.

So, apart from checks and oil/filter changes, there are brake fluid changes, Manufacturer service bulletins to be carred out and the overall goodwill if something does wrong outside the warranty period.

Personally I would keep with the main dealer servicing for another three years, but get any major work (e.g. brake discs and pads) done at a cheaper specialist using branded parts only.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - John F

But John, you know what you are doing. The OP may not and doesn't want to.

Perhaps of even more importance, I (like to think) I know what I am NOT doing. Masterly inactivity, sometimes colloquially expressed as 'if it works, don't mend it', is often the right course of (in)action. It certainly was in my former profession. There are far too many gallons of brake fluid disposed of, far too many brake pads with thousands of miles wear left binned, and far too many engines at best running inefficiently 5 degrees out of synch (one tooth out at the crank sprocket = half a tooth out at the cam) or at worst destroyed by unnecessarily early or incompetent 'servicing'.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Smileyman

Have you investigated the costs for future routine maintenance works - eg oil changes, cambelts etc? Without knowing what the costs are you are not looking at the full picture.

Consider that as a loyal customer in the unlikely event of part failure the full service history in an out of warranty vehicle may encourage a goodwill contribution, something that would be lost if you saved a few pounds with non-franchise works.(or broke the routine works schedule).

However for standard motoring consumables, like with tyres, using a non-franchise garage does make good sense.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Ian_SW

If it's a genuine VAG specialist with VW qualified techs (i.e. ex main dealer staff), who use genuine parts and the correct oil they will do an as good or better job. It's not always less money though, so worth getting quotes from both.

I was so unimpressed with the two Seat dealers closest to us, who seemed incompetent and disinterested in so many ways whilst we were trying to buy my wife's Leon, I wouldn't have wanted to use either of them for the servicing. This meant it was either travel 60 miles each way to the (very good) main dealer we eventually bought the car from, or use the local VAG specialist who is just down the road (which is what we did).

However, that specialist was a company we'd been using for years on older cars and prior to that I'd heard good things about them from work colleagues who also used them. I definitely had confidence they knew what they were doing and properly followed the correct schedules. I wouldn't have done the same with a company who claimed to be a specialist who I'd just found in the phone book or on Google.

Nothing went wrong with the car during the warranty period, so I never needed to try using the theoretical ability to claim on the warranty without main dealer servicing, and it's now 5 years old with 55k miles on the clock still with no issues.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - SLO76
I would stick with the main dealer on anything relatively complex like this unless you can verify that the specialist is a genuine VAG expert. I used a so-called local BMW specialist once and turns out he was bulk buying 10w 40 oil and sticking it in every car that came through the door. The timing chain on my E46 3 series developed a terminal rattle shortly after. This is a big killer of modern cars. Backstreet garages all too often do this to save a few quid and cars are far too complicated and oil specific today. It was fine in the 80’s but today it’s a big no no.

Try calling the nearest specialist for a price then call your main dealer to see if they’ll match it or get close. My local VW dealer will discount if you do this and the marginal extra cost is more than outweighed by the additional value your car will retain with a full dealer history plus you may see post warranty goodwill from the dealer and manufacturer. I certainly did on my Polo with a couple of out of warranty repairs done foc.
Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - CHarkin

Try calling the nearest specialist for a price then call your main dealer to see if they’ll match it or get close. My local VW dealer will discount if you do this and the marginal extra cost is more than outweighed by the additional value your car will retain with a full dealer history plus you may see post warranty goodwill from the dealer and manufacturer. I certainly did on my Polo with a couple of out of warranty repairs done foc.

Thats significant consideration, particularly for recent VAG cars where they seem to develop serious faults just outside the three years. Even if they don't pay the full amount they will often make a substantial contribution. I saved £1000 ( 75% ) on one occasion with this. There are loads of technical updates that only main dealers can do. Up to 5/6 years old I stick to the main dealer.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Silas Marner

"I used a so-called local BMW specialist once"

So did I, they tried to tell me I needed a new catalytic converter on an old BMW when I didn't. On a related question, I expect I'll be asked if I want to buy a warrenty extension; I'm sure I'll need to read the T&Cs very carefully to determine if it's worth it?

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - catsdad
Seat fixed price minor service is £175. Will an indie be much less? Unless you are going to do it yourself you may not save a lot.
Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Silas Marner
Seat fixed price minor service is £175. Will an indie be much less? Unless you are going to do it yourself you may not save a lot.

I was charged £239. But I am concerned less about the price, more about the quality. Also, I'm rather too old to scrabble about under cars these days.

Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - catsdad
The £175 comes from seat.co.uk website. Its £295 for a major sevice. These prices are stated as maxima from "participating dealers" and based on time and mileage servicing. They list several additional benefits including breakdown cover.

As for £239, maybe you had some extras in yours ( or got a bargain if it was a major service?). Or maybe your dealer doesn't "participate".

I agree about scrabbling around but I saved about £50 in Honda dealer costs by buying OEM air and pollen filters and fitting them myself in a few minutes. But I still get a basic £165 official service every year (with free MOT and breakdown cover) and add on brake fluid changes etc as appropriate.

Locally no good indie can match these prices. The sums and quality calculations may work out differently for you of course.
Seat Leon turbo petrol - Service after warrenty - Heidfirst

How long do you intend to keep the car?

A full dealer service history adds a little to your car value if you want to sell & it may keep manufacturer goodwill in the event of an out of warranty claim.

Do Seat offer, as many other manufacturers do e.g. Toyota Essential Care , a cheaper service scheme for older vehicles?