Apologies -
that should of course have been
"Kal"
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4) The perception is that the new Ford TDCi is a massive improvement in terms of noise and smoothness. BUT mpg appears appear to vary between cars significantly (or is that cars / drivers?)
Its cars, take it from me. As I've mentioned on other threads, I've always been able to beat published mpg figures driving diesels for over a decade, but not on the tdci. Also, proof: I sat on a long stretch of A road in steady moving traffic 50 to 60, couple of roundabouts but otherwise no holdups for about 50 miles the other day. I did nothing more than feather the throttle. Trip computer barely broke 50 for that stretch and that computer on my machine always exaggerates by about 2mpg.
But I agree on the fact that everything else is a massive improvement.
Splodgeface
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Don't you find you need to use a lot of throttle when starting or doing hill starts? I found the TDCI 130 to be very poor in torque at low revs, and the turbo cuts in suddenly, not at all like the style of the 2.0 HDI Peugeot/Citroen engines.
I drove a C3 with the 1.4 HDI 16v 92bhp engine, that too has a sudden turbo, but you don't need to use half throttle to set off without stalling.
Ben
On my 3rd Citroen. Saxo, Xsara, C5.
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My Merc E-320 CDI seems to sit at about 30 - 35mpg with normal driving and around 40mpg on a nice motorway cruise at about 90mph. Do you think these figures are good or bad bearing in mind it is a very powerfull car that leaves most petrol cars for dead.
P.S. I drive fairly quickly
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Our C3 16V seems to be holding at a steady 60-62 mpg. This at 6,000 miles old.
Any motorway cruising done at a steady 2,900 revs which gives a comfortable 80 something mph. It is very quiet at this speed.
SR
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Reliability shouldn't be a problem - the Peugeot 405 1.9TD engine will last to 385,000 miles with regular oil changes (I've known 3 of them go pop within a few hundred miles of this figure!), the Mondeo 1.8TD goes well over 300,000 miles again with regular oil changes.
Economy does seem to vary according to the car - my experiences are:
H-reg Maestro van, 2.0 non turbo D, 300,000m, 60-91(!)mpg,
K-reg Cavalier 1.7TD, 185,000m, 50-56mpg
M-reg Mondeo 1.8TD, 320,000m, 45-50mpg
P-reg Peugeot 405 1.9TD, 380,000m, 50-60mpg
Y-reg Octavia, 1.9 non turbo D, from new to 152,000m so far, 44-64mpg
X-reg Primera 2.0TD, 30,000m, 34-38mpg.
The Maestro van was almost always used on motorways, all the cars have been used for taxi work, local and long distance in roughly equal measure.
The only reason I can give for the Skoda's economy being somewhat lower than the others is that I've had the car from new, I know it's been looked after, so I don't feel the need to "nurse" it along.
And the Nissan, well - I don't know if it was just a Friday afternoon car or what, but it didn't go any faster than the Skoda and it had a more severe thirst than my 2.0 petrol Mondeo does! Lucky it was only a courtesy car (3 weeks, 6,000 miles)
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seems good to me is it an auto?
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