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Classic Car - Car Panel Dents - Mark Conway

Hi all

I have an old classic car and i have a dent in the car door panel, the issue is that this one is problematic in that the metal has stretched beyond its shrinkage limit. So what this means is that if i push it, it pops back in and leaves a hole and if i push it out from the other side it pops out and creates a mound. I tried hammering it at first but no joy then tried heat (hot air gun then oxy-acetylene) and cold (water then ice) treatment and still nothing.

Does anyone have any suggestions apart from cutting lump out and re-welding in new plate.

NB No paint or paneling to worry about

Any ideas advice much appreciated, cheers in advance!

Mark

Classic Car - Car Panel Dents - edlithgow

I've only run bangers, so havn't done cosmetic repairs other than those required to fool an MOT inspector, but this sounds like a job for body filler.

The standard stuff needs careful surface prep and overpainting because the talc filler in it can absorb water and promote rust. Perhaps you can get better materials (maybe epoxy rather than the usual polyester base) to mitigate this.

The trad alternative, which I've never tried, is to fill with molten lead, rather like plumbing a "wiped" joint in a lead pipe. This is of course a specialist skill which you'd have to acquire or hire, and I dunno if it can be done on a vertical surface.

Speculative, but i filled a hole on my current banger with highly compressed crumpled aluminium foil, which seemed to have potential.

It could be formed and burnished by rubbing with a ball-pein hammer, and could probably have been sanded with wet-and-dry, though I didn't try that since I don't really do cosmetic repairs.

Classic Car - Car Panel Dents - Mark Conway

Hi Ed

thanks for the advice, looks like filler it is!

I have big boy filler which is water and corrosion resistant and a fibre-glass based epoxy resin so maybe one then the other on top just to be extra safe, also have neutra-rust for surface prepping prior to filling.

Will give the molten lead idea a miss sound like to much hard work but will keep it in mind for future reference likewise with the foil suggestion.

Cheers for you help much appreciated

Classic Car - Car Panel Dents - edlithgow

Like i said, I have very little experience with these things on cars, having mostly used them on a boat,

The glass-reinforced epoxy sounds semi-structural, and from your description I doubt that you need it. It'll probably have better adhesion and water resistance so if you use it you could use a thin layer like primer, and put the other stuff on top.

You want to avoid having to sand glass-epoxy. Also be aware (in case you arent) that you can get seriously and permanently sensitised to epoxy so avoid all skin contact.

"Molten lead" wasn't strictly accurate. Its a special alloy called "body solder", made for the job.

Edited by edlithgow on 01/03/2019 at 13:23

Classic Car - Car Panel Dents - focussed

Heat the dent to near red heat with a torch, bash it in with a ball-pein hammer to set the dent, sand it back to bright metal and fill it over with ordinary body filler.