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Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - OceanMan

I have a 2005, 1.4L, petrol 206 Verve. I want to get a full set of tyres, I guess I'm not completely against partworn as new tyres become partworn pretty quickly but I don't want to pick the cheapest option. What would be the best / safest tyres I could get for about £200?

I think I'll mostly be doing shorter journeys though I'll obviously be doing some long trips too.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - skidpan

Pick up phone.

Dial a local independent tyre garage.

Ask what they have in your size of tyre.

They will almost certainly recommend the tyre they make the biggest profit on which will be a Chinese ditch finder which you have never heard of, if this happens ignore this tyre.

Ask for a price on a reputable mid range tyre such as a Uniroyal, Toyo, Yokohama, Hankook, Falken, (used all of these with no issues) it won't cost much more than a ditch finder.

As an example I bought 4 Uniroyal Rain Expert last year in 185 60 14, including new valves and balance they were £200 fitted.

Don't use part worn tyres, they are a false economy and could be potentially deadly if the car they came off had been involved in an accident. Ask yourself a simple question, why would anyone remove perfectly good tyres and replace them? Simple answer, they don't, they come off scrappers.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - edlithgow

Ask yourself a simple question, why would anyone remove perfectly good tyres and replace them? Simple answer, they don't, they come off scrappers.

Ask yourself another simple question. How old, on average, are the tyres on a scrap car going to be? Simple answer. If the tyres removed for resale are not selected for better/younger (and they probably are) they are going to be halfway through their service life.

Without exception, ALL my cars have become scrappers without being involved in an accident and with perfectly good tyres on them.(though some were remoulds. I dunno if they're still a thing),

I'd imagine that's the general rule,

SOME scrappers must have invisibly damaged tyres but I'd bet its rather few.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - Engineer Andy

You should easily be able to get 4 mid-range or perhaps even premium tyres fitted for that price if you shop around via the online sellers and fitters.

I don't know what size you tyres are (Width/sidewall percentage of width [both in mm], wheel Radius in inches, Speed rating letter and load rating number [e.g. mine are now 195/65 R15 H 91], but given the car's age and model/engine I'm guessing they're 14in diameter and standard-ish width and sidewall height.

This means you should get some of those Skidpan mentioned, and perhaps some premium grade tyres for between £40 - £50 (fitted) each.

Other questions for you other than the size:

  1. What's your annual mileage?
  2. Where approximately do you live in the UK? Do you get more than a week or two a year of light to moderate levels of snowfall, and how does that affect your car use?
  3. How long do you intend to keep the car (approximately)?

I do (mostly) a low-to-average annual mileage (job dependent) but made up of almost exclusively journeys of over 10 miles on faster flowing roads, so tyre wear isn't important, but the performance of the tyre over a long period (6+ years) is. Your own situation may lead to perhaps needing a differnt type of tyre, maybe one that wears quicker but is cheaper, softer riding or grips better.

I managed to source (via BlackCircles) 4 Michelin [all-season] CrossClimate+ tyres for about £230 - £240 (fitted). Sometimes you can save a bit if your fitter charges less than the online firms like BC if their cost + the delivery charge from the online fitter is less than solely going via the online firm. Not really much in it to be honest - £5 - £12 total. Many online outfits have offers if you buy (mail order or via a local fitter) 2 or 4 (higher) tyres at the same time.

I personally wouldn't use KwikFit, not because the quality of their outlets varies quite a bit, but because they rarely are the cheapest. I've had no issues sourcing tyres from Blackcircles, though some of their 'authorised' fitters (charging the same price for fitting - £13.20 a tyre) have been rather hit and miss.

I bought mine mail order from them (BC) this time and had them fitted at my local Mazda main dealer with £10 each. If you do that, check as to when fittings can be done, as often main dealers put such work at the back of queue with all their general servicing and maintenance work (I had to store the new tyres in my flat for 3 weeks!). Going direct means you can get them fitted within 3-5 working days for most tyres.

PS. Check the plate inside your driver's door or the table in the owner's handbook to check for what sizes and especially the speed rating the manufacturer allows as standand for your car - an old car not owned from new may have had non-standard sized tyres fitted which can a) be more expensive to buy (rarer) and b) increase your insurance premium (e.g. wider tyres).

I was changing my alloy wheels (downsizing from 16in to 15in) and changing tyyres at the same time, and also to change from a V rated OEM 16in tyre to an H rated 15in (on the handbook table and the plate on the door, so allowable). Still drives fine, and saved me £15 on my insurance! Admitedly my situation was quite unusual, so probably best to stick to the OEM size combo - any change must give an overall rolling circumfrence within +/- 2% of the OEM fitment.

What I mean by this is that someone in the past may have gone for a wider tyre on the same diameter wheel with a lower sidewall percentage to give the same sidewall height and a higher speed rating, e.g.

OEM (original) fitment [just an example]: 175/65 R14 T 82 (for a 2007 Pug 206 D)

Possible 'wider' tyre someone may have fitted: 195/60 R14 (+1% rolling circumfrence).

Probably not an issue, but always check in case a previous owner fitted non-standard tyres. If your were OEM 15in or changed at some point to that larger size, then you may find that only the mid-range tyres will come in on/under budget. I was lucky that reducing the speed rating from V (149mph) to H (130) was allowable (my car has a top speed under 120) and the tyres were £5 cheaper each to get the lower speed rating. Quite often that isn't the case, as it's the popularity of a tyre that determines the price.

Best of luck.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - FiestaOwner

I would go for All Seasons Tyres from a known manufacturer (ie Goodyear, Michelin, Nokian, Vredestein, Continental etc).

The reason for this is you will be using your car in All Seasons, so why fit summer tyres (unless you use a summer and winter set of tyres). Also as you need 4 tyres, this is the perfect time to change to All Seasons.

We may only get a few days of snow a year, but if you're driving in it it's worth getting tyres that give you a better chance of completing your journey safely.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - catsdad
Just booked to change two tyres on our Corsa. Decided on Avons for £53 each.

Most fitted online prices were comparable to each other then Blackcircles (BC) came up with a Black Friday deal that made them cheepest. If you can hold on then they seem to offer similar deals about once a month. No doubt other outlets do the same.

Whether you can meet your price target will also depend on the specific size you need. The three cars in our family use tyres which probably have roughly the same material content but prices of tyres vary from about £50 through £75 to close to £100.




Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - KenC

Depending on where in the country you are and your typical winter weather ( snow & rain) have you considered Cross Climate tyres ? . Autoexpress have a recent cross climate tyre test which you can use as a guide.

Cross climate tyres can be left on all year round ,they reduce your overall stopping distance in the wet and the snow and could make the diffrence between a safe controlled stop versus stopping in the boot of the car infront.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0zyQh2l3M

Edited by KenC on 29/11/2018 at 17:57

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - Engineer Andy

What size of tyre (e.g. 195/65 R15 H) were they? Avons are normally classed as mid range at best, as from reviews they tend to be fine in the dry but not so good in the wet and don't last long. £53 (even incl. fitting) seems a tad expensive for a likely smaller tyre. I suppose it could be an unusual size combo.

I also find it's a good idea to keep an eye of tyre prices, as what looks like a good offer today might've been beaten a fortnight ago. I seriously doubt if a 'Black Friday' deal for tyre would be the best this year, as, unlike DVDs, CDs, books etc which are bought at this time for Christmas presents, people don't do the same for tyres. More like a sales gimick to me.

Edited by Engineer Andy on 29/11/2018 at 18:32

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - focussed

Reading this thread got me thinking that surely by now the UK has banned the sale of part-worn tyres?

No - but the sale of part-worns is supposed to be regulated, but it looks like the dodgy twilight- zone spivs don't take a lot of notice.

www.tyresafe.org/media-centre/latest-news/785-furt.../

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - edlithgow

Reading this thread got me thinking that surely by now the UK has banned the sale of part-worn tyres

If they do that, then logically they'll have to ban the sale of used tyres that are attached to cars.

ALL cars, even nominally new ones, have used tyres attached to them. How do you know that straight-from-the-showroom delivery mileage didn't include some brisk kerbing?

If you're going to be parenoid, at least do a thorough job.

I suppose that's another simple answer to Skidpan's simple question. "why would anyone remove perfectly good tyres and replace them?"

Simple answer, they bought a car, and they were parenoid about used tyres

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - catsdad

Hi Andy, I assume you were commenting on my post as you reference Avons. Sorry I didn't respond earlier.

The size is 185/70/14. At the time I was looking the fitted prices across several suppliers were very close. Like you I am suspicious of some Black Friday deals but this one made BC the cheapest with local fitting (5 mins away from me)) by a small margin.

I've no particular love of Avons. It was a matter of price and recognised brands and I was citing them as an example of what you get for a small car at about fifty quid. They are B rated for wet and as the car only does 1500 miles a year wear will not be an issue. As you say they are mid-range but their latest tyres get better reviews. Far better than part worns.

PS I don't know why this post has slotted in here, I tried to insert it after Andy's entry at 18.31 on Thursday.

Edited by catsdad on 01/12/2018 at 17:24

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - Andrew-T

I have a 2005, 1.4L, petrol 206 Verve. I want to get a full set of tyres, I guess I'm not completely against partworn ....

You haven't told us why you 'want' to get a set of tyres. Are the present tyres on the limit ? Failed MoT ? Too old for you ?

If they are legal, how old are they, have you read the date codes on the sidewall ? They could be no worse than a set of part-worns.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - thunderbird

Reading this thread got me thinking that surely by now the UK has banned the sale of part-worn tyres

Like the previous poster said

No - but the sale of part-worns is supposed to be regulated, but it looks like the dodgy twilight- zone spivs don't take a lot of notice.

My trusted indy also takes no notice of the regs and any tyre he removes with more than about 2.5mm of tread left he sticks back on the rack after the customer has left. He agrees with me that the buyers are crazy but he is happy to sell them if there is demand. As he says a used tyre fitted with 1mm of usuable tread is upwards of £20 (depending on the actual tread depth and size) with a valve and balance, £20 a mm. A new tyre of a decent brand with 6.5 mm of usable tread is £50 fitted with a valve and balance, under £8 a mm.

Where is the logic in that. Buy them on e-bay, pay postage and then get them fitted must be even more expensive.

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - edlithgow

Where is the logic in that. Buy them on e-bay, pay postage and then get them fitted must be even more expensive.

Different issue from the safety one. Those value for money sums aren't very hard to do, nor is the tread hard to measure.

If a used tyre isn't a bargain then I wouldn't buy one, although you have to make some allowance for the short-life / low miles case which will never recoup the tread value of a new tyre before it or the car its attached to is scrapped.

Apart from remoulds (which used to be fairly respectable) I've never bought a used tyre that wasn't attached to a car, and it could well be that they are poor value in The Yook,

I may be investigating sourcing some here soon. I'd probably try going to a scrappy and taking them off rather than a used tyre dealer.

I don't know if the later exist since Chinese culture isn't big on second-hand.

Ghosts, you know....

Peugeot 206 - Best tyres for my car? - OceanMan

They were marked as advisories on an Mot. I think I've discounted the idea of part worn, as a previous poster made a strong case against them. I want a good, safe set because imI very safety conscious and im a new driver.

I live in warrington but I honestly don't know how many miles per year I'll do, because I work from home ATM but I could in theory get a job with a long commute soon.

Thanks a lot for all the replies .I haven't been able to respond properly to some of your questions but I'll do so soon when I'm less busy