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Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - SB739

Hi Guys,

2001 Corsa 1.0 Comfort


Question about my key!

Bought the car used, now, the key looks 'good condition', but I Can tell it's not genuine. It's a cheap exterior anyway, which looks like the real key and has a new 'plastic' version of the rubber lock/open buttons. BUT, it lacks the little red IR light/square that emits the signal I presume. SOMETIMES, it will lock the car. It has never opened it.

I was able to drive the car a fair bit to get it home and use it normally for a few weeks, and despite having a fuel filter leak and oil switch (both of which were repaired), it suddenly wouldn't work one day while I was out.

I started the car, and noticed it was revving irregularly, as if it was being starved of fuel.

Here's the difficult to understand bit, we replaced the sparks, coil pack, even tried another air flow sensor from a working Corsa C and nothing worked. Not a single error code. It DOES, however work a little bit better with the air flow sensor DISCONNECTED which is strange. A professional mechanic couldn't seem to diagnose the problem at all which worried me too. Until I contacted Vauxhall, who kept asking me about the keys...

My theory is this:

The remote is sending dodgy/incomplete signals SOME of the time to the cars ECU. The car starts, but the immobiliser (which can disable one of three things apparently) is disabling the fuel injectors causing the car to stall out shortly after it starts.

I can move the car around car parks etc, having to restart it each time it dies, so I can't imagine anything majorly mechanical has 'failed', it rather seems to me that the immobiliser is deliberately causing a problem which the engine is unaware of, meaning it tries to work, but is prevented from doing so shortly.

I'm not getting the spanner icon flashing either, but I have seen this, and can only guess that people seeing that have a different key problem, which is causing the immobiliser to disable the STARTER, which is why victims of that cannot start their cars at all. I understand that the immobiliser ca( disable one of three things, even two of them at a time, to prevent theft.


What do you guys think? I really hope this IS the problem to be honest, as mechanics are telling me the only other way to diagnose a problem is to strip the thing down, which they all agree isn't worth it... I'm also quite disheartened that mechanics cannot at least tell me what the problem is... but that's another problem

PLEASE reply if you can help even a little bit, as my last resort is Vauxhall.. and I know that they aren't cheap!!

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - elekie&a/c doctor

Very much doubt it is an immobiliser fault.If it were,then the car would not run at all ,and the yellow engine fault light would flash.The immobiliser system shuts down the complete engine management system,not parts of it.

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - SB739

I see what you mean, but from what I've read online the immobiliser disables two of three things needed for the engine to run, which are mechanical and not ECU related I think. I think it's the starter, ignition and/or fuel injectors

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - elekie&a/c doctor

Yes,googlefix,the electronic version of "a bloke down the pub says"....

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - SB739

What reason do I have to believe you over other randomers online?

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - Railroad.
Believe who you like, but inside the key is an electronic chip which sends a coded signal to a receiver which in turn sends a signal to the engine management ECM. This signal is either received or it isn't, and consequently the engine management system will either switch on or it won't. The is no in between.

You are probably referring to many older retrofitted systems which were wired into various circuits, and we're all enabled at the same time when the immobiliser system was deactivated. Your car has a factory fitted system.

Another possibility could be that a previous owner has had an after market system installed on top of the factory system. I've seen this before and if it is the case your best bet is to have it removed because it serves no useful purpose at all. It will only complicate matters.

If there is no after market system fitted then it's highly unlikely that your problem is the immobiliser, and that it lies elsewhere.
Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - Wackyracer

What reason do I have to believe you over other randomers online?

Read his user name, that is the clue! The internet (armchair specialists) have probably never successfully fixed a car in their lives.

As Railroad has said, the factory fitted immobiliser will only be looking for the transponder in the key during the initial engine start, after that it is not bothered if the transponder is there or not.

Vauxhall Corsa C 2001 Comfort 1.0 12v - Corsa C Starting Problem IMMOBILISER? - hardway

Flattened the battery anytime?

or dissconnected it?

Then it will need a throttle body reset.

It will never reliably idle without this reset.

Oh and this needs Vauxhall level diagnostics.

Of course this is presuming the idle air control is working.

Which is the easy part to test,

just listen for the motor cycling when it goes off.

or is switched off,

No zzz zzz means no motor movement in the idle air control.

so my question is can you hear this zzz zzz when the key is turned on/off?