found what it was today!!!!! and i checked everything electrical and it all checked out, now what i couldnt understand was when i reved it up the voltage dropped, i found that there are 2 ways of routing the aux belt and the van had it on the wrong way , so when the alternator was under load it slipped on the belt, once routed the right way i got 14.5 volts and all was happy days!!!!
wont be taking it to a local garage again as they fitted the belt a few weeks ago and wreaked the new belt but was good enough for a while!!
thanks for everyones comments most helpful,
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