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Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Jackhammer

I'll be brief.

Bought used car recently from dealer 70 miles from my home.

Fault found with clutch next day by independent garage near my home.

Informed that clutch could go at any minute.

Dealer agreed to repair but only if I drive car the 70 miles to his workshop.

I am not prepared to drive an unsafe vehicle so I want to get the repair done locally to me and invoice the dealer.

Can I do this?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - skidpan

A failing clutch does not make a car unsafe. I have driven plenty in the past with failing clutches, they don't get better but with care you can get safely to your destination.

The dealer is unlikely to agree to let another garage do the work, he has no control over the costs that way. Your warranty is with the seller and you have to give him the opportunity to fix the car. At least he has agreed to do that, be grateful.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Jackhammer

Hi

Thanks for taking the time to respond to my post, it is genuinely appreciated.

I have to say, I think you and I look at things differently as I don't regard the dealer offering to fulfil his legal duties as something I should be grateful for.

As I tell my kids, do the right thing in life because it is the right thing to do and don't expect praise, do the wong thing and expect consequences.

I really do not think it is reasonable to expect a buyer to drive a car 70 miles whilst nursing the clutch.

However, like I said, you and I clearly look at things differently and it's always good to get someone else's prespective and although I don't agree with it I respect it.

Thanks again.

P.S. When it comes to cars I know very little. What would happen if the clutch failed whilst I was doing say 40mph? Would it be potentially dangerous?

Thanks again.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - skidpan

You will find that although delaers are required to put things right it is your responsibilty to actually get the car to them. Buying a car 70 miles away can lead to difficulties as you are finding and that is not the dealers problem. You chose to buy from that dealer.

I have to say, I think you and I look at things differently as I don't regard the dealer offering to fulfil his legal duties as something I should be grateful for

Many come on here that are having probelms getting dealers to look at problems let alone fix them. As I said you should be grateful.

When it comes to cars I know very little. What would happen if the clutch failed whilst I was doing say 40mph? Would it be potentially dangerous

Clutches normally do not fail catastrophically, it happens progresively. Drive with some care avoiding letting the clutch slip which will lead to overheating and you should be fine. One possible issue is damage that could be caused to the face of the flywheel if you allow the clutch to get too hot whilst driving. That could lead to an arguement with the dealer.

Its obvious to me the car had this issue when it was either traded or sold into the trade. The dealer is picking up costs which he probably did not allow for but they win some and loose some, its the name of the game.

Your only option is to pay to have the car transported to the delaer if you are not happy drving it but do not expect the dealer to pay. If it broke down on route it would still be your responsibility. That is why we buy break down cover.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Jackhammer

Again, thank you for taking the time to respond.

Any thoughts on the insurance issue?

Were Murphy's Law to prevail and I was involved in an accident on the way to the dealer would my insurance be valid as I am driving a car with a known fault whether or not the accident was caused by the fault or not?

I know you can say this about any car being driven to a garage for work but knowing how insurance companies work it would be good to have your thoughts on this.

Thanks again.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - TedCrilly

DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR

Does he?......or does he expect you to return it to him by whatever method you choose?

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Jackhammer

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

The dealer explicitly said drive and no other option was discussed although I do appreciate the liguistic nuances involved.

Thanks again, your time is appreciated.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - skidpan

Any thoughts on the insurance issue?

You are having a laugh. Join the real world.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Jackhammer

I don't quite know what you mean, have I missed something?

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - RobJP

Basically, get on with it. Stop reading too much into matters. Get in the car, drive it there, and leave it for him to fix.

It is highly unlikely (as has already been explained to you) that the clutch would totally fail on you in those 70 miles, unless you were abusing it horribly - in which case, it'll probably go again in a few months.

If it did fail, you'd basically drop out of gear - the car would lose power slowly and that would be it. Nothing catastrophic.

Oh. One last point. Stick to one thread where possible. Otherwise it's just ridiculous. Shouting all the time is more likely to annoy people, rather than getting them to help you

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - Bromptonaut

Clutch failure is not dangerous and such risks as there are an be mitigated by understanding the clutch's funtion and what happens when it's failing.

Either the clutch slips, something a competent driver can cope with, or you lose the ability to select gears. Occasionally the pedal drops to the floor.

My son coped with the 'pedal to floor' mode while practising before his test. Aim for the verge and knok it into neutral to preserve momentum.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - pd

A slightly iffy clutch does not make a car dangerous if you know about it. Plan for the fact that it might slip. If it does, you will lose acceleration so don't do any major overtaking manouveres (not that you are likely to in one of these).

Other options:

(a) get someone else to drive ir or transport it (try shiply.com etc.) for a quite.

(b) if you're worried about it, take out breakdown coverage before you go and if it packs up en-route get them to take it the rest of the way.

If the clutch is just slipping a bit then if you drive gently they can go on for a long time lime this.

In fairness to the dealer, if you bought a TV from Currys and it went wrong you wouldn't expect to taker it back to Amazon but back to where you bought it.

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - scot22

Jackhammer, I side with your caution (won't surprise people).

However, as has been said, you bought a car 70 miles away and it is your responsibility to get the car there.

I expect 999 times out of a 1,000 there will be no problem. However, no consolation if you are the one !

Vauxhall Agila - DEALER EXPECTS ME TO DRIVE DANGEROUS CAR - old-school-tech

Pay me £150 for the day and i'll drive it there for you...sound fair enough?

I think as lots of people have already said (including me in another thread) nothing major will happen, once your in top gear and steadily cruising along the motorway/dual carriageway etc the clutch isn't doing anything...so it wont fail during this time.

Even if something major failed with the clutch, you'll already be expecting it won't you...so you'll know what to do, finger ready to press hazard lights, and coast to a safe place.

On another note....If I bought a pair of jeans from Debenhams and the thread came apart....Is it ok for me to take them back to TK Maxx...because they are closer to where I live?