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Nissan Micra K11 1275cc V reg - Engine misfiring at irregular intervals - RickyNewt

Hi, I'm new to the forum and wondered if any technical experts can help me out. My micra distributor packed up after 15 years of trouble free driving (140,00 on clock). Garage put new one in, replaced plugs and HT leads and since then it has frequently lost power and then completely skipped at irregular and unpredictable intervals. Only when cruising rather than accelerating. Never quite stalls and then the engine catches back up. Garage say they don't know what it is but might be expensive sensor part in throttle control. I dont see why this part should coincidentally have gone at the same time as the distributor. I notice the distributor is a completely different size and shape to the original one. Could it just be that the timing needed adjusting after they fitted it and they havn't bothered to check it? I dont trust them to give me an honest answer.

Nissan Micra K11 1275cc V reg - Engine misfiring at irregular intervals - Cyd

Garage put new one in,

Personally, I'd have looked for a good secondhand or a refurbished one first - that must have been quite pricey?

replaced plugs and HT leads

Seems fair at that age and mileage. Parts cost is low compared to labour whilst already under the bonnet

Garage say they don't know what it is

You don't say if they've done any investigation work to try and find this issue??

If all you've done is ask what it might be, then that's fair comment

might be expensive sensor part in throttle control.

Well, there's a lot of things it might be !! Personally I'm not a fan of diagnosis by guesswork. Testing is required.

I dont see why this part should coincidentally have gone at the same time as the distributor.

Why? Coincidence is just that. It's a fairly old car with plenty of miles.

I notice the distributor is a completely different size and shape to the original one.

May or may not be a cause for concern. Nissan may have changed the design part way through the model life cycle. Others will know that better than me, but have you tried checking any on line parts catalogues?

Could it just be that the timing needed adjusting after they fitted it and they havn't bothered to check it?

Yes, it probably did. Without setting it up right the engine probably would never have run. Someone like Eleckie will confirm though.

I dont trust them to give me an honest answer.

Go somewhere else then! But, why? What have they done or not done to lose your trust?

Perhaps you could illucidate as to what diagnosis (if any) has been done to find the cause of this new issue? What findings do you have so far?

Can you do any DIYing yourself? If we make suggestions will youu be able to check them out or is it simply going to another garage for fixing?

Nissan Micra K11 1275cc V reg - Engine misfiring at irregular intervals - elekie&a/c doctor

Firstly,I think it is unlikely that the new distributor is a genuine Nissan part as these were over £500 at the last count.The timing needs to be checked,but on these there is not a large margin of adjustment.What does give trouble on the early K11 models ,is the throttle body.Dry solder joints on the internal printed circuit board can give poor running and lack of power.Fortunately this is an easy and cheap fix.Take a look on internet for Micra throttle body faults.

Nissan Micra K11 1275cc V reg - Engine misfiring at irregular intervals - RickyNewt

Personally, I'd have looked for a good secondhand or a refurbished one first - that must have been quite pricey?

It was and so would I if the AA hadn't towed the car straight to the garage. We were just glad to get home after a long day, not thinking clearly. AA man was great by the way. Diagnosed the problem correctly, looked after us really well.

You don't say if they've done any investigation work to try and find this issue??

Having made us wait a weeeeek before they even looked at it, after another week the attitude was well we've cost you enough already, sent one distributor back because we thought it was faulty, can't really be bothered to do any more testing cos we think it will cost you another arm and two more legs so 'let the fault develop' and develop it did!

Well, there's a lot of things it might be !! Personally I'm not a fan of diagnosis by guesswork. Testing is required.

Me neither, I thought my DIY days finished 10 years ago but I am now motivated to have a go myself!

Coincidence is just that. It's a fairly old car with plenty of miles.

I'm a pragmatist I dont believe in coincidence. It was driving fine till the distributor packed in. The plugs were fairly old but the gaps were good and I had replaced the HT leads a couple years ago.

Go somewhere else then! But, why? What have they done or not done to lose your trust?

I intend to. Over the years as the management has evolved there have been a few niggly things that have gnawed away and this about finishes it off :)

Perhaps you could illucidate as to what diagnosis (if any) has been done to find the cause of this new issue? What findings do you have so far?

I think you mean Elucidate there pal :). Not having any fancy kit, I can't do much at the moment, but I have changed the petrol and air filters and have bought a timing strobe today (threw the old one out recently - typical). Luckily, having an identical 3 door model my daughter drives, I was able to roughly check the timing on both and one of them is way out! Gonna get a tacho delivered sunday and do the job properly. As mentioned by my other kind responder, all my internet searches point to the likelehood of it being in the throttle body somewhere, but I wanted to explore this angle first as I am very rusty on this sort of caper. I'll let you good folks know how it goes :)

Nissan Micra K11 1275cc V reg - Engine misfiring at irregular intervals - RickyNewt

There you go, glad I took the trouble to have a go myself, adjusted the timing roughly then checked the rpm at idle speed with a handy little hand held digital meter I got on Amazon.

Just had to take the side cover off under the right wing and stick a little bit of white tape over the rim of the cranshaft pulley and bobs your uncle. Idle speed appeared to have been set for automatic instead of manual transmission. Kept the potentiometer leads on and set it to 650 as it says in Haynes. Rechecked the timing and moved the distributor assembly till it was spot on 15 deg. Engine running much smo

Ta for the replies guys, gave me the oomph to have ago :))))