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Any - Long Term Investment - Cluedo

Is there a modern day equivalent of the W124 or at least a car with the same reputation.

I am looking to purchase an estate car that would not necessarily do high mileage - 8K to 10K a year so petrol would be the order of the day. I am an old f*** so an automatic would be useful and I will look after the car. It would be well looked after and I would plan on keeping it a long time (potentially running it into the ground) so longevity and long term reliability are key factors for me. As such - something that is well engineered would be a must.

Any ideas please with a budget up to £30Kish.

PS - we are a family of 4 with 2 teenagers getting bigger and enjoy holidays in the car usually in the UK.

Edited by Cluedo on 06/06/2014 at 17:00

Any - Long Term Investment - Falkirk Bairn

Honda Accord Estate - 2 ltr auto - now an old model so BIG discounts on list.

Toyota Avensis -petrol auto - again BIG discounts

With the £8-£10K change out of your £30K!

maybe not the prestige names but for the LONG haul a Jap Petrol is a sound investment - if buying a car can ever be an investment.

Any - Long Term Investment - gordonbennet

Interesting question, and it will be interesting to see which makes people wouldn't buy as long term prospects.

I'd agree with FB, i'd say Avensis but electric parking brake is known to give the odd problem (we'd have one now if it wasn't for that)...model should be getting replaced soon and i wouldn't be surprised if the EPB vanishes into the skip where it belongs.

Mercedes E Class W211 from 06 on so facelift model is very good, as is the C Class from 08 on, either of those if you have a good make specialist indy to look after it for you should provide many years of service...my 18 year old W124 shows no signs of not lasting another 18.

A private hire chap i know runs E Class MB's, 220cdi, my MB indy looks after them, sold on when they get over 400k miles and seldom does anything need attention between services.

Even better than the W124 was the Volvo 9 series, if they still made them the same today as back in the 90's i'd buy a new one without a second thought, solid, armchair comfort, square for all round visibility, rust unknown, simple, turning circle nearly as good as a black cab, whats not to like.

Any - Long Term Investment - Alby Back
I had a Volvo 940 estate back in the early 90s GB. While I agree that it was indeed a highly practical thing I can't help mentioning that it certainly wasn't as "armchair" comfortable (for me anyway) as some would suggest. I am Mr Average in height, build etc and can fit comfortably in most vehicles but that and indeed most Vauxhalls too put me in kinks on a long run. The handling of the 940 was ponderous to say the least. However, it was a very useful load lugger.

My (current) 2011 Mercedes E250 CDI Sport auto estate just had its 90 odd thousand mile service and first MOT yesterday. Still doesn't need brakes apparently ( original discs and pads all round ). Hasn't been a moment's bother from new. Still looks new in fact. I suspect it might be a keeper. 200+ bhp and an easy 50 mpg. Handles well, goes well and stops well. Very comfortable and so far anyway, impeccably reliable. 40,000 miles between tyre changes ( good job really 'cos the tyres are pretty dear ) Nothing squeaks or rattles yet which is good.

What's not to like about that?

;-)
Any - Long Term Investment - gordonbennet

S'good Alby, i wasn't sure about MB after the W210 rust machine and then compounded by early 211's, but they seem to have got to grips with things around 06 and appear well back on track...even my MB indy speaks highly of the newer models, a man not easily impressed.

Glad you've finally conquered that Mundano fetish...:-)

You'll be pleased to note the Outback is now running smoothly and economically on LPG, and is enjoying the full and intensive mega maintenance she's receiving, cars do have souls yerno, care for them and they give it back in spades.

Any - Long Term Investment - Trilogy

I'd suggest an Octavia or Superb estate. The latter has plenty of spaqce for two growing teenagers. Both are often used as taxis.

Any - Long Term Investment - Cluedo
Many thanks for the responses so far - some very good suggestions that make sense and give me lots to think about. I appreciate your input.
Any - Long Term Investment - Avant
"Is there a modern day equivalent of the W124 or at least a car with the same reputation?"

The nearest you can get to that is surely another Mercedes. As suggested above, quality has apparently improved after a dip in the early 2000s (strangely, just like Renault), and your choice for £30k is a new basic C-class or an E-class that's a year or two old. With teenagers getting bigger the E-class probably makes more sense unless you specifically want to buy new.

It's worth trying the A6 and 5-series as well in case you prefer them to drive. In your position I'd go for something with six cylinders (petrol will be cheaper to buy, at least at present, but more expensive to run, so probably not much in it). Mercedes diesel fours can be a bit noisy, although Alby (above) swears by, rather than at, his.


Any - Long Term Investment - John F

I would buy a low mileage old Audi A6 Avant V6 if I could find one. They go for a song [I know - have just sold my 15yr old saloon A6 2.8 for a pittance which I had from 77K to 133K with no problems.]

They are galvanised and the engines plus ZF Tiptronic box are bombproof. Plugs, oil change and brake pads are easy to do. The cambelt won't break because even if the water pump fails it is driven by the smooth back of it. Put a new windscreen in [£250] if the old one is pitted and spend the remaining £25K on your holidays - they'll be better memories than a fancy car!

Any - Long Term Investment - daveyK_UK

Toyota Avensis 1.8 petrol estate

Any - Long Term Investment - 659FBE

All of the "Audi-layout" VAG clones (Audi A4/6, VW old Passat, Mk1 Superb, Exeo) are excellent long term propositions if bought with the right engine and transmission. The outright dog is the 2.0PD but some other engines such as the 2.5 diesel with the VP44 fuel pump are also unlikely to brighten your life in the longer term. The CR diesels and most petrols are usually OK. (The 1.9PD is good, but old now).

Apart from long life with cheap maintenance (from an Independent), these cars all come into their own on snow and ice, unlike their rear-driven rivals. Progress on ice has been likened to a "yak on heat" and I can certainly vouch for their outstanding grip with the heavy engine well over the driven wheels. On one memorable journey through the Surrey hills following an unexpected heavy snow storm, the number of BMWs and M-Bs in the ditches was a grim reminder of their shortcomings under these conditions, I got home - on good Summer tyres.

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