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Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - craig-pd130

Interesting survey from yesterday's Telegraph about how electrical problems in cars of 3+ years old have more than doubled in the last 5 years.

Renault lived up to the bar-room wisdom that 'French cars are terrible for electrics' by being the least reliable manufacturer in terms of electrical problems. However, Citroens proved more reliable than teutonic titans Audi, Mercedes and Porsche, and was as reliable as BMW.

www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10699415/Complex...l

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Snakey

Combine this with the thread about electric cars in 2040 and it gets more worrying!

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Collos25

I can well believe it judging by the number of electrical items put in cars but bar room wisdom is not very good if the major car manufacturer in France is proven to very reliable.

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - primeradriver

I can well believe it judging by the number of electrical items put in cars but bar room wisdom is not very good if the major car manufacturer in France is proven to very reliable.

Hardly "very reliable" -- still 8th bottom, and twice as likely as a Subaru to suffer an electrical failure.

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Wackyracer

I'm not surprised at all. Funny how French cars always seem to be the focus of everything that can go wrong with a car.

I'm not saying they don't suffer faults buy, Many Ford Focuses had dash failure, So did Audi TT's etc. Many fords with smart charging suffer from wiring loom faults to the alternator and I'd put a healthy bet that many unfortunate owners have shelled out for a new alternator when it was only the £12 wiring loom repair kit that was needed.

It is no wonder that the wiring fails on cars thesedays, They use much thinner cables for cost cutting and weight saving. While at the same time installing much more electrical equipment on board and some of it only an idiot would locate where the manufactures decide to fit it.

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Hamsafar

Who'd a thunk it?
A car packed with electronic tech has more issues with said tech than a primitive Subaru?

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - primeradriver

Who'd a thunk it?
A car packed with electronic tech has more issues with said tech than a primitive Subaru?

Hey, it's not me who deliberately misrepresented the report to make a point...

And it's the first time I've heard a newer Citroen being referred to as relatively advanced. Maybe that's the trouble -- their owners are stuck in 1972, so get all head-scratchy when they come across 1980s tech in their new French bin.

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Collos25

I can well believe it judging by the number of electrical items put in cars but bar room wisdom is not very good if the major car manufacturer in France is proven to very reliable.

Hardly "very reliable" -- still 8th bottom, and twice as likely as a Subaru to suffer an electrical failure.

Not the Citroen surely

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Bolt

On checking a fault with my clock on 2006 civic I can understand why there are problems with modern electrics,

wires only just capable of taking the current and circuit boards that hardly take vibration being so thin,with terrible soldered joints, plugs much larger than the flimsy ribon cable they hold to circuit,leading to cracked cable

I think they are going too far now in making lighter cars

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - V4 Heaven

Alfa Romeo in the top 10 for electrical reliability. Whatever next?! All joking aside, my wife's MITO has been very reiable in the 4 years she's had it.

Any - Electrical faults in cars rise sharply in 5 years - Gibbo_Wirral

I get to see a lot of Peugeots and Citroens, and for me I find the most common cause of electrical failure - after a couple of known design flaws (207 and 407 rear light earth problem, and the 307 heater resistor pack) - are down to owner neglect.

I find cars where the bonnet is never lifted and the scuttles are blocked with leaves and debris, so the water doesn't flow out of the channels and runs into the fuse box or the soundproofing which soaks it up like a sponge.

Or the wheel arch liners are missing and the components protected from the elements (windscreen washer pump, ABS unit, power steering) are all exposed to the elements.

Others just haven't read their manuals and read warnings about jump starting. "BSI reset, what's that?" I hear all the time, along with people who think a car battery will last forever.

I wonder if there's a connection between French cars being general family runarounds and less likely to be maintained by their owners (trying not to be sexist here, my own partner doesn't maintain her vehicle and it irks me somewhat).

Edited by Gibbo_Wirral on 18/03/2014 at 13:32