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Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - mikepencoed

I am considering buying my first diesel car. It will be used, 2004/5. Given all the negative press about DPF’s on this site I’m wondering if this age of car is likely to have one.

I;m thinking Astra, Focus, Mazda3 or Leon. Possibly Almera.

Thanks in advance for any sound advice Regards , Mike

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - craig-pd130

VW group cars made in 2004 / 2005 did not have DPFs, I'm pretty sure it's the same for Vauxhalls.

A Focus 1.8 or 2.0 TDCi from that time should not have a DPF, a 1.6TDCI might possibly have one (this model uses a Peugeot/Citroen-sourced engine, of which many had a DPF system that used an additive in a separate tank to assist regeneration - these DPFs need replacing every 70K miles, I believe).

Don't know about Almeras but I'd suspect not.

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - oldtoffee

In the market for a 10 year old diesel must mean you've got a very big annual mileage to get through to risk the turbo, dpf and/or dmf potential failures versus the worse mpg of a manual, normally asprated petrol.

Edited by oldtoffee on 22/09/2013 at 22:13

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - unthrottled

ou've got a very big annual mileage to get through to risk the turbo, dpf and/or dmf potential failures

Apart from some PSA group cars, very few 10 year old cars have DPF.

Besides, most vehicles reach the end of their life without major engine problems. Should I avoid all Toyota petrol engines because some of the 1.8 VVT engines have a propensity for ring trouble and a lifetime of heavy oil consumption??

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - Bromptonaut

In the market for a 10 year old diesel must mean you've got a very big annual mileage to get through to risk the turbo, dpf and/or dmf potential failures versus the worse mpg of a manual, normally asprated petrol.

The mpg gain will be a big one particularly round town. Diesels also run reasonably ecomically even form cold. There's a reason why taxis are all diesel!!

Many diesels at that age will be pretty basic IDI jobs. Provided oil and timing belt changes have been done on time then, like my 135k/8yo Berlingo they just go on. I also ran a 2000/X Xantia HDi to 150k. Apart from a cambelt problem at 70k due to garage ignoring my request to change additional components when renewing belt and occasional tendency to wear out induction circuit hoses the engine was a peach. Went to auction as a runner with just a slight oil leak. It was mechanical wear/tear that did for it.

More complex direct injection engines started to come in from around 1998. The DW (HDi) unit fitted to numerous Peugeot, Citroen and Ford vehicles has a well earned reputation for being trouble free even at galactic mileage (subject the caveat about servicing again). No doubt VW, GM and japanese products are same.

As others said DPF was very much in its infancy then and modelas thus equipped can easily be sidetepped.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 23/09/2013 at 14:59

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - mikepencoed

Many thanks for all your replies which have been most helpful. As you say most engines never have serious faults, that's been my experience too.

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - skidpan

Bit late with a reply but I can tell you 100% that the Focus 1.6 TDCi did not have a DPF until the 2006 model year Euro 4 cars. Unfortunately some cars sold late in 2005 were MY 2005 Euro 3 cars with no DPF's and some were MY 2006 cars. Only way to tell is to look at the V5. To further add to the confusion the only 1.6's fitted with a DPF were the 110PS models, the 90PS cars never had one.

You may also wish to consider the Kia Ceed 1.6 CRDi, they are a bit newer than the age you originally mentioned but early cars are availble at bargain prices. They did not have a DPF fitted until MY 2011 cars. Yo could be lucky and find one with a small amount of the 7 year warranty left.

Astra Focus etc - Used diesel DPF - mikepencoed

Thanks for the tip i'll consider that