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Any - University car - Ed V

My step daughter is looking for a car for her final year at university from September, budget around £1,500. The usual suspects I assume, Micras, old Civics, etc. With small petrol engines, is mileage more important than age?

And which is the best online search resource - is it Auototrader?

Any - University car - craig-pd130

Older Yarises (Yarii?) or Puntos mark 2s are worth a look too. Yarises are as reliable as a stone, and while Puntos have cheapish interiors, they are very robust mechanically, more spacious than most and cheap to run, providing you get two keys with the car.

I would look for a car that's actually done a decent number of miles for the year rather than the lowest mileage, and for a service history too.

Any - University car - retgwte

fiat panda

Any - University car - 72 dudes

At this budget, condition is far more important than age or make. Don't go for a very low mileage example (too many short journeys = engine wear).

As well as service history, old MOTs and bills, look for a smart interior, it's a good indicator of how the car has been treated.

Yes, Autotrader is pretty unbeatable. I would avoid e-bay like the plague when it comes to cars.

Any - University car - Alby Back

I had a car as a student. Upside was it was handy. Downside was I never had any money because everything went on the car.

Oh, another recommendation for a Panda by the way. Good little cars. Pushbike would be cheaper though !

Any - University car - lordwoody

My daughter lived at home whilst travelling to uni by car, 3 years in a Yaris and never a breakdown. After the mileage passed the 160k mark she sold it to another student locally and I still see it being driven by the girl who bought it. My daughter is now still at home and travelling to a different uni for her MA, now in a Aygo, still having no problems, so I'd be happy recomending any small Toyota. I'd also add that her first car was a 206, bought against my advice, which was forever being fixed, so I'd also be happy not recommending a Peugeot.

Any - University car - Cyd

Pandas are great little cars.

Agree, condition and service history much more important than age or mileage. Body condition is paramount - everything else is bolt on. I also look for cars with a low number of previous owners (3 years per owner is my personal benchmark).

Buy something without tons of gizmos (less to go wrong), but do try to get one with ABS (I'll bet your daughter was taught to drive in a car with ABS and so has no idea what cadence braking is!!).

In the 70-90k mileage bracket, be aware a clutch change could be coming up.

Consider putting a new batery on it unless you can be certain it's got a fairly new one anyway. And put it on charge for 24hrs every time she comes home for holidays.

All other sensible car buying 'rules' are taken as read.

Any - University car - Cyd

Don't forget to check out HJs car by car breakdown for your choices. Also Parkers do a buying guide for about £3 per model.

Any - University car - Ed V

Looks like she's going for a Pug 206, 64,000 miles 11 years old, and the selling woman has ownded it since 2004.

Wouldn't be my choice but I do agree with some of you who reckon that condition and upkeep count, and it scores well there.

Any - University car - Cyd

A young lady friend of mine has a 206, W reg, 76k. It's an ok little car. It's actually quite a nice drive. Pugs aren't the most robust cars out there generally, but there's tons of 206s about and spares are cheap.

At that mileage and with a woman owner for so long, I'd budget for a clutch replacement. Broken road springs are a common problem with these too, but they're easy to change and cheap enough to do.

Any - University car - unthrottled

At that mileage and with a woman owner for so long, I'd budget for a clutch replacement.

!!!

And boy racers are so sympathetic to clutches...

Any - University car - Bobbin Threadbare

Yes; why would a woman driver wear out a clutch more rapidly than a man? I cannot find any statistics about this.

Any - University car - mss1tw

Yes; why would a woman driver wear out a clutch more rapidly than a man? I cannot find any statistics about this.

Cos most of them are allergic to using the handbrake on hills, and staying below 5,000rpm when maneuvering 'on the clutch'. ;-)

Present company excepted...

Any - University car - unthrottled

Cos most of them are allergic to using the handbrake on hills

Men that are the worst offenders for this. They think that the handbrake is something that you only use in your driving test and that using the clutch as a brake shows off their clutch control skills.

staying below 5,000rpm when maneuvering 'on the clutch'

That's old people in jazzes-like madf :)

Any - University car - Cyd

Purely based on my own experience, I have found that women drivers are more prone to resting their left foot on the clutch pedal as they drive along. No data, just an observation over the years.

Any - University car - Bobbin Threadbare

Obviously I am lacking the sheer years of experience of other members of this forum but I have never driven (nor have I ever seen my mum or gran do so) with my foot resting on the clutch. There's a little footrest in my car next to the clutch anyway. Always out of gear at lights. Handbrake applied whenever I have stopped. I would have thought that most women would prefer to do what I do, as it saves making your ankles achy holding the clutch on hills and we're more cautious creatures than men, so more likely to be as safe when waiting at lights etc as possible.

Edited by Bobbin Threadbare on 11/08/2013 at 15:57

Any - University car - Andrew-T

I have found that women drivers are more prone to resting their left foot on the clutch pedal as they drive along. No data, just an observation over the years.

To counter this, I can report that my father-in-law (long dead) used to rest his foot on the clutch (Morris Minor, 1100, Rover 3.5), requiring clutch replacements from time to time.

Any - University car - Big John

Make sure you get insurance quotes - can be a significant difference between cars - could eclipse your original buget.

Any - University car - Ed V

Thanks all.

Insurance is around £1,000 (she's only 21) for the first year. Have to say, I think it's a decent punt on a well-looked after car.

Any - University car - dieseldogg

Our Son bought a £500.00 banger (and properly insured it for £650.00)

He intends to pick up a well loaded run-out model Skoda Fabia 1.6 diesel next year sometime.

Our daughter bought herself a new diesel Yaris, after I had researched prices for fresh examples..

Which she intends to keep for 15 years/250,000 miles (ish)

Both still at Uni.

Horses for courses.

Any - University car - RaineMan

In these days of increasing student debt I find reference to student cars quite amazing. However I know that many have them – a friend lives in Hatfield (where the University of Hertfordshire is based) and student parking is a real issue. When I started my degree (over 30 years ago) it was very unusual for a student to own a car. A few of us had motorbikes but they were usually old. I did have a Mk II Escort in my post-graduate year. Some others did as well but by then we were able to get well paid holiday jobs not minimum wage in a supermarket!

Any - University car - Bobbin Threadbare

In these days of increasing student debt I find reference to student cars quite amazing. However I know that many have them – a friend lives in Hatfield (where the University of Hertfordshire is based) and student parking is a real issue. When I started my degree (over 30 years ago) it was very unusual for a student to own a car. A few of us had motorbikes but they were usually old. I did have a Mk II Escort in my post-graduate year. Some others did as well but by then we were able to get well paid holiday jobs not minimum wage in a supermarket!

I started university 11 years ago and only one person of my acquaintance had a car. I did both of my degrees at the same uni and watched as the parking system became ever more complicated and overcrowded, as more and more undergraduates brought cars with them. I certainly couldn't have afforded to run one; even as a postgrad I used the bus because the parking permits were so expensive.

Any - University car - Andrew-T

He intends to pick up a well loaded run-out model Skoda Fabia 1.6 diesel next year sometime.

Our daughter bought herself a new diesel Yaris, after I had researched prices for fresh examples. Which she intends to keep for 15 years/250,000 miles (ish).

It seems foolish to focus on a diesel just to get 45mpg instead of 35, unless your son intends to do a great deal of travelling. And I don't believe your daughter's intentions will last 15 years. Ladies' tastes change a lot faster than that :-) Though if she has bought new, she will need to keep it a long time to make that worth while.

Any - University car - thunderbird

Our daughter bought herself a new diesel Yaris, after I had researched prices for fresh examples. Which she intends to keep for 15 years/250,000 miles (ish).

How can your daughter know she will do 250,000 miles over the next 15 years. Unless she continues to live in the same house, continues to do the same job that mileage and keeps the exact same lifestyle the mileage will either increase or reduce. During that time she will likely as not have a family, if she stays at home her mileage will be close to negligable and a diesel will be totally unsuitable.

Any - University car - dieseldogg

(i) For a small bodied diesel surely looking at 55mpg plus (going on 60mpg) against 35mpg/40 perhaps in a petrol.

Probably pick up a fresh second hand example, depending on how long his banger lasts, but it went through the stiff NI MOT with a set of new discs and pads itted by his ould Da.

I would hope our daughter keeps the Yaris, and she almost certainly will, reared proper odd she was and forby that, that has always been our family car buying stradgey.

If she falls in with a suitable boyfriend/husband to be who wants to put her in a better car.

Her brother will buy the cast off Yaris.

Simples.

PS

I hate buying cars and rather deal with the level playing field of a straight purchase new car than sommat 2nd hand.

Though I did work my way up via 2nd hand motors.

M

OOps

It is obviously a 5 door Yaris, therefore suitable as a small family car/ second family car.

PPs

Currently getting 60+mpg, on mostly longer runs, she is currently doing about 18,000 miles a year. (part time job and a home bird forby)

Edited by dieseldogg on 13/08/2013 at 17:14