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Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Bycro
I am interested in any experience of ownership of high mile oil burners. Any make or model, any problems. What are considered to be the best ? Mileage recorded etc.

My current car is a Seat Exeo 143 diesel SE. 37 months old, 93,000 miles. Full main dealer service history and just seems to get better after each mile.
Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - FP

The Peugeot 1.9 lump as used in the HDi 90 bhp engine is reckoned to be capable of starship mileages - I had one in a 306 that did 135,000 plus, all on the original clutch, with one cambelt change and a new exhaust in that period. Others should be able to confirm much higher mileages than that.

Superb engine, totally reliable, started instantly whatever the weather, pulled like a train, mid-fifties economy. At the end of my ownership it ran as well as, if not better than, when I bought it second-hand.

Edited by FP on 28/04/2013 at 23:05

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - RT

The problem is that by the time there are enough owners of galactic mileage engines with zero faults to be statistically reliable - then that engine/car has become obsolete.

Our family had 130,000 miles from a 1.2 Vauxhall Nova with no issues - which proves what ? SFA other than proper maintenace is good for any engine.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Trilogy

When I scrapped my 1998 Skoda Octavia, 90 bhp it had covered 221,000 miles and had suffered no engine problems even though it was latterly only serviced every 18,000 miles.

The replacment MK1 Focus TDI estate has done 144,000 miles. It isn't as economical as the Skoda.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Bycro
RT - The question I am asking is purely out of my own curiosity. I am not asking anyone to prove anything.

I have a colleague that owns an 12 year old diesel Mercedes which you could say is obsolete, but it has covered 170,000 trouble free miles.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - jc2

One of our company Escort vans passed 500,000 miles and was still giving excellent emission figures,not just smoke.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Bobbin Threadbare

Mate at uni had a Ford Escort, M reg. It had over half a million miles on it, rattling around the Dales.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - unthrottled

Look at mini cabs. Which marques go the distance? What trends can be observed? I would say none! PSA, VAG, Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes etc. all appear with massive mileages. Almost any car should run almost indefinitely if basic maintainance is carried out.

The question of economics and public perception will always appear to favour premium manufacturers ie. repairing a 20 year old Mercedes appears to be make more sense than carrying out the same repair on a similarly aged Citroen-even if the absolute cost is the same. So beware of selection bias in the sample!

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - A3 A4

I had an M reg Escort, it gave up the ghost at 58,000, mind you it was made in 1973...

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Collos25

German Mercedes taxis are normally changed at 1000000km, depends how they are looked after as to how long they will last.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - jc2

The only similarity between the Merc. you buy and what they sell to taxi drivers is usually in the shape of the body.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Bycro
Thanks jc2. Are the engines different in taxi Mercs then?
Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - jc2

Usually a derated engine,uprated suspension,uprated transmission,seats,upholstery,different wiring loom(including different interior lighting) and also a very competitive price because other manufacturers also offer "taxi- spec" vehicles too.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Collos25

Usually a derated engine,uprated suspension,uprated transmission,seats,upholstery,different wiring loom(including different interior lighting) and also a very competitive price because other manufacturers also offer "taxi- spec" vehicles too.

Your right about the seats wrong about the engine and suspension and the wiring loom and the price.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Collos25
Thanks jc2. Are the engines different in taxi Mercs then?

Exactly the same 220 diesels they have taxi seats fitted plus an addition to the dashboard to take the meter.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Hamsafar

Just passed 200,000 miles in 2006 Audi A8L 3.0TDI.
Only needed a DPF delete at 155,000 and set of injectors at 195,000.
It still drives like a 1 year old - touch wood.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Sulphur Man

My cousin's V-reg V Golf TDI 90hp has recently passed 200K miles, still going well.

Perhaps THE most revered diesel is the 3-litre non-turbo M606 engine in the W124 Mercedes E-Class, 1993-1996 vintage. Only 130bhp ish, but simple with no turbo, no ECU. Runs sweetly on veg oil. Keep it maintained and run it regularly and it should give 500K miles without major complaint.

The usual W124 front wing rust and wiring loom insulation decay will happen long before the engine breaks.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - NARU

I know of a 'baby' toyota lancruiser diesel with 350,000 or so. Although that is the 120-series, the current 150-series is essentially the same car - and certainly the same drive train.

Mine hasn't done the same mileage yet, but I'm planning to keep it for the long term.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - veryoldbear

My Saab 9-5 2.2tid estate has just rolled over 200,000 and I'm going to hang into it for comfortable zero depreciation motoring.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - jc2

Milage doesn't kill vehicles-what kills them are short journeys and,even worse,occasional short journeys.No wonder taxis,vans,police cars and other vehicles can all clock high milages.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Bycro
I would agree with you their jc2. I do lots of motorway miles, about 35,000 a year. Haven't had any problems at all with my current car. As I said when I started this discussion, the car seems to get better with the more miles I do. Mind you, I hope I am not tempting fate with my last comment. You do hear of lots of failures on modern high pressure Diesel engines with turbo or valve failure,the latter happened to my last VW Passat 2.0 TDI and that lived mainly on the motorway too.

Edited by Bycro on 29/04/2013 at 13:52

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - mss1tw

'Only' 117,000 on my 54 plate Berlingo. Uses no oil even on 5w/40 and chugs along well enough. Usually loaded up full of tools as well as the built in seats and once it's warmed up I'm not shy with the loud pedal. Can't be when driving one of these! :-D

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - concrete

My Skoda has covered nearly 170K, mainly motorway. Serviced on VAG variable mileage regime, roughly every 18K or so. Synthetic oil to VAG spec. Uses a thimble of oil between services, original clutch, exhaust etc, returns around 50mpg. My dealer tells me he has these 1.9Tdi PD 130 engines on starship mileages which he regularly services. So the key seems to be, proper servicing, lots of motorway driving, constant use and some good luck. I think this would apply to most makes. Cheers Concrete

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Alby Back

I used to know a guy who had a large-ish fleet of mini cabs. At any one time he owned and ran about 40 vehicles. i remember asking him, in conversation what sort of mileages he expected to get out of his cars before they reached the end of their useful lives.

He told me that most things from the mainstream manufacturers eg Fords Nissans, VAG, GM etc would get to 400-500 thousand miles before they became uneconomical to keep and that a few, ( particularly the Mercs interestingly enough ) had managed to get to a million miles before he felt he should bin them.

His attitude to what should/could be classed as "consumables" was perhaps wider reaching than most private motorists of course, he was quite at peace with replacing clutches, shocks, steering racks etc as required.

I then asked him to say then what was his "acid test" of impending end of life to which he replied that it was the diffs ( differentials ). He felt that once they started rumbling the thing probably "only" had another 50-100k miles in it !

Sort of makes you think when most of us might ( possibly reasonably ) feel that a car with 100k miles in total was starting to be tired and that by 200k it was probably getting near to the end of it's useable life. To that guy I knew, those cars were but youngsters !

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - unthrottled

Sort of makes you think when most of us might ( possibly reasonably ) feel that a car with 100k miles in total was starting to be tired and that by 200k it was probably getting near to the end of it's useable life. To that guy I knew, those cars were but youngsters !

True. But the 'average' private driver starts up his car from cold twice a day an drives only a few miles.

The average taxi cab fires up a cold engine and puts a couple of hundred miles on it for each cold start. So a private car with 150K on the clock will usually exhibit much more wear than a taxi cab with 150K. I really don't think mileage is a good indicator of service life.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Alby Back

Aye, maybe there's something in what you say. I've run a number of cars up to approaching 200k without too much grief but many if not most of my journeys are long ones.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - RT

Most of the wear in cars occurs during the warm-up cycle - once fully warmed up the lubricants do their job preventing most, but not all, further wear - so component life is better measured by the number of cold starts, not the mileage covered.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Alby Back

Well, funnily enough, I was only thinking today that the family across the road might not be doing their cars any favours.

They have a long but narrow drive and have to park their 3 cars one behind the other. The lane between our houses is too narrow to safely leave cars parked on. They seem to be constantly shuffling them depending upon whether the mother, the father or the young adult son wants the use of their car. Goodness knows how many times a day they are all started and moved a few yards without necessarily going anywhere else.

Can't imagine it's the best way to treat them but I guess they haven't a lot of choice.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Avant

I would assume that none of the 3 cars is a Nissan Micra....(notorious for not starting if stopped after driving a few yards from cold). Agreed - it's very bad for any car.

I wouldn't buy a house that needed that sort of shuffling - I'd even rather dig up the front lawn.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - 1litregolfeater

It's a combination of little things that see a car off. Air Con and ABS, electric windows and door locks, electric power steering.

The extended servicing shedules meant for fleet accountants cannot be recommended to private owners.

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - jc2

It's simple to overcome;first out takes first car and so on!

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - balleballe

What if one is not insured on all the cars?

Any - Intergalactic Mileage Oil Burners. - Collos25

Milage doesn't kill vehicles-what kills them are short journeys and,even worse,occasional short journeys.No wonder taxis,vans,police cars and other vehicles can all clock high milages.

The vehicles you have mentioned do nothing but short journeys.