Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

I am on the lookout for a new car and need one with a bit more ample overall/passenger space in the rear as now have a 1 year old with a rear facing child seat which will be used up until 5/6 years of age, so the next 4 years at least.

Currently in my Nissan Almera hatchback, with the child seat present, the front passenger has little to no room, a passenger can fit although quite uncomfortably.

I can't find the relevant information online and until I go view a few and actually test them I won't know.

Is the only difference between the hatchback and estate versions basically just the rear end i.e. boot space capacity making it longer? Or is there extra space/extension to the front and rear internal seating as well?

Appreciate any insight.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - bazza

Wheelbase is the same for both at 2600mm, so the extra space is from the fact that it's longer, with the extra length at the boot end.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - corax

Wheelbase is the same for both at 2600mm, so the extra space is from the fact that it's longer, with the extra length at the boot end.

As bazza says, there isn't any difference in space between front and rear seats, all the extra length will be in the boot. It's not the best car if you want good rear legroom.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

Any other car recommendations for better rear legroom?

Thanks.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - badbusdriver

Yes, not that easy to find the measurements you seek. Looking up the wheelbase (the distance between the centre of the front wheel and the centre of the rear) is a good indication of internal space. But not definitive because there are other factors to consider, specifically the proportions of the car. For example a car with a longer than average bonnet/engine compartment area may have less internal space than you'd expect even though it has a reasonably long wheelbase.

For what it is worth, the wheelbase on the Almera (assuming 2nd gen) is 65mm shorter than the Auris. Though as bazza points out, wheelbase for hatch and estate is exactly the same, so no benefit other than boot space.

But if you look at the 2nd gen Nissan Note, despite being 230mm shorter overall than an Auris, has exactly the same 2600mm wheelbase. This is because it has a short bonnet/engine compartment relative to its size and its wheels are pushed out to the corners, so more of its size is given over to passenger space.

I'd suggest looking at MPV types, which would include the Nissan Note mentioned above, but maybe something a little larger like the Ford C Max. With the 1.6 petrol engine it is reliable and should have plenty of space for your needs.

Edited by badbusdriver on 16/03/2025 at 15:46

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - daveyjp

If you need the room try and find a decent Verso. As children get older they also get friends and hobbies!

Best car we had for rear legroom when daughter was growing up was a Merc B class.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

If you need the room try and find a decent Verso. As children get older they also get friends and hobbies!

Best car we had for rear legroom when daughter was growing up was a Merc B class.

Not too fond of the Toyota Verso style/shape as much but will have another look at different years.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - mcintosh

I'd suggest looking at MPV types, which would include the Nissan Note mentioned above, but maybe something a little larger like the Ford C Max.

The Honda Jazz is also worth a look. Legroom in the back of ours seemed very generous, better even than the Auris hatchback we have now.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

Yes, not that easy to find the measurements you seek. Looking up the wheelbase (the distance between the centre of the front wheel and the centre of the rear) is a good indication of internal space. But not definitive because there are other factors to consider, specifically the proportions of the car. For example a car with a longer than average bonnet/engine compartment area may have less internal space than you'd expect even though it has a reasonably long wheelbase.

For what it is worth, the wheelbase on the Almera (assuming 2nd gen) is 65mm shorter than the Auris. Though as bazza points out, wheelbase for hatch and estate is exactly the same, so no benefit other than boot space.

But if you look at the 2nd gen Nissan Note, despite being 230mm shorter overall than an Auris, has exactly the same 2600mm wheelbase. This is because it has a short bonnet/engine compartment relative to its size and its wheels are pushed out to the corners, so more of its size is given over to passenger space.

I'd suggest looking at MPV types, which would include the Nissan Note mentioned above, but maybe something a little larger like the Ford C Max. With the 1.6 petrol engine it is reliable and should have plenty of space for your needs.

I have considered the Nissan Note and Ford C Max in the beginning of the hunt, with the Nissan Note due to allegedly the rear seats can be slid forward/back but apparently not much? In regards to the Ford C Max I have heard they aren't as reliable come with issues which put me off.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Big John

Currently in my Nissan Almera hatchback, with the child seat present, the front passenger has little to no room, a passenger can fit although quite uncomfortably.

You don't mention budget?

As already mentioned the Nissan Note mkI is surprisingly good and a very reliable car with excellent passenger space but the boot might be a bit tight with the stuff required for a young child. Another stage left is the Nissan Pulsar, not a hugely popular car in its day but it's rear legroom was amazing for that size of car and the 1.6 version was pretty nippy.

Back in the day (mid 90's) when we were in a similar situation we bought a cheap high mileage Passat Estate - did us quite a few years and a lot of miles as I had a long commute.

Edited by Big John on 16/03/2025 at 20:08

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - gordonbennet

Avensis estate is bigger inside, standard 1.8 petrol models cheap enough to run, tough and reliable, quite reasonably priced.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

Currently in my Nissan Almera hatchback, with the child seat present, the front passenger has little to no room, a passenger can fit although quite uncomfortably.

You don't mention budget?

As already mentioned the Nissan Note mkI is surprisingly good and a very reliable car with excellent passenger space but the boot might be a bit tight with the stuff required for a young child. Another stage left is the Nissan Pulsar, not a hugely popular car in its day but it's rear legroom was amazing for that size of car and the 1.6 version was pretty nippy.

Back in the day (mid 90's) when we were in a similar situation we bought a cheap high mileage Passat Estate - did us quite a few years and a lot of miles as I had a long commute.

Absolute max budget is £6,000 would prefer £5,000, however all this is dependent on the car/mileage etc. Ideally looking for a 2013+, although have seen a few 2010 that look 'modern enough' like Toyota Avensis as an example. Mileage wise something around 100,000, the less the better depending on the car again.

I'm also quite observant of vehicle road tax groups as well as insurance to try keep it in-line/cheaper than the Nissan Almera, hence SUVs would be out the window unless it was a Nissan Qashqai, then again have heard all sorts about them.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - expat

Once the child seat is turned round to face forward you will be able to move the front seat back again. It won't be too long before your child is big enough to do that. If you can put up with the present situation a few months more you may be able to keep the existing car a bit longer.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

Once the child seat is turned round to face forward you will be able to move the front seat back again. It won't be too long before your child is big enough to do that. If you can put up with the present situation a few months more you may be able to keep the existing car a bit longer.

Unfortunately that won't be possible, as my gearbox has been acting up for over a year now was a ticking time bomb, 2 weeks ago lost my reverse so can no longer reverse.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - badbusdriver

Not too fond of the Toyota Verso style/shape as much but will have another look at different years.

With respect, if looking for a practical and reliable family wagon on a small budget, whether or not you like its looks isn't (or at least shouldn't be) an important consideration.

the Nissan Note due to allegedly the rear seats can be slid forward/back but apparently not much?

The seats don't "allegedly" slide, they do slide!. Not sure by how much, but as long as you have enough space between front and rear seats to get your child seat, it doesn't really matter. I can't actually answer that for certain but would expect it to be fine. My main concern re the Note would be whether the boot is big enough for your needs.

In regards to the Ford C Max I have heard they aren't as reliable come with issues which put me off.

It is true you should avoid the 1.0 Ecoboost and anything with a Powershift auto, but the n/a (Yamaha designed) 1.6 is fine. Maybe not quite up there with the Toyota Verso, but better than average.

Also check out the Vauxhall Zafira Tourer and Kia Carens.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Warning

Unfortunately that won't be possible, as my gearbox has been acting up for over a year now was a ticking time bomb, 2 weeks ago lost my reverse so can no longer reverse.

What is the cot of a gearbox? When buying another car, there is always a risk.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Dave1UK

Unfortunately that won't be possible, as my gearbox has been acting up for over a year now was a ticking time bomb, 2 weeks ago lost my reverse so can no longer reverse.

What is the cot of a gearbox? When buying another car, there is always a risk.

Gearbox from eBay would be around £200. Labour cost no idea, 3 hours? Let's say £150-£200, wouldn't be worth it.

I am aware of the risk of a new car hence why I've kept mine for so long. I do my own repairs/service with the exception of bigger jobs i.e. clutch/cam belt etc. Had it for 60k city driving miles and finally ran it into the ground, it has served its purpose. It just is not worth putting any more money into it now. Long list of cosmetic issues. Isn't up to a standard I'd like as been rear ended twice once by a car which caused a leak in the boot, have tried to locate it/patch up but still leaks. Second time was by a van in Dec last year which dented the boot door and rear boot mechanism needs to be pushed out after opening to lock.

Toyota Auris - Toyota Auris Hatchback VS Estate Internal Sizing - Big John

Unfortunately that won't be possible, as my gearbox has been acting up for over a year now was a ticking time bomb, 2 weeks ago lost my reverse so can no longer reverse.

Might still be worth investigating - sometimes it can be a simple gearbox / engine mount issue allowing movement that affect gear linkages. Difficulty engaging 1st and reverse usually points towards a clutch drag issue, possibly hydraulics.

However you might want a change anyway. A good family car with a big boot AND interior space - Skoda Octavia or Toyota Avensis estate(already mentioned above)?

Edited by Big John on 20/03/2025 at 19:16