Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Hi all
Thanks for your great advice re cars to accommodate 3 kids in car seats on the second row.
Have decided to look for a Ford S-Max, petrol manual. Hoping this avoids too many pitfalls with engine reliability. Kids are upset that it doesn’t have sliding doors though …

Was hoping to ask your advice on two options on auto trader and about pre purchase inspections.
These are the two cars I’m considering:

www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502048719273?s...a

This one I’ve been to see- it’s pretty bashed up in terms of body work and the privacy glass is peeling which will annoy the kids and they will probably peel more off themselves (can this be fixed?) but biggest problem is one of the seats on second row won’t tip forward.
The dealer says that they will fix the seat. On the plus side- two owners and one was Ford garage for 6 months, reasonable mileage and price with full main dealer service hx. Garage is v low pressure on sales, they really don’t care if you buy it or not.

www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202412227483000?s...a

Haven’t been to see this one - they say it has full service history and MOT check looks good. Obviously more expensive and dealer seems far less established (only registered with companies house in 2023).

Both are happy for me to book a pre purchase inspection which hasn’t been the case with every seller I’ve approached. Any thoughts on who is best to use for a pre purchase inspection?

Any thoughts, or used car buying tips?
Or does anyone think the S-MAX is a terrible idea?!
There are not that many petrol manual versions out there unfortunately.
Thanks in advance for your input.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - elekie&a/c doctor
I think the S max is a good all round family motor . However the petrol ecoboost 1.5/6 engines are not the most reliable. Very common issues with coolant loss and misfiring due to cracks in the engine cylinders . If you are dead set on one of these , make sure you’ve got a cast iron warranty, as any engine repair is very expensive.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - Adampr

Of the two, I would go for the blue one. Pretty bashed up is a good way for family cars to start off and you'll be saving yourself £7k (enough to buy another) over the other option. The MOT history looks good too.

There have been quite a lot of recalls for the S Max. If the dealer will let you have the VIN, you can check if they've been done on the Ford website. If they haven't been done, get it booked in if you buy it. I believe one or two of these relate to the potential engine issues.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thanks very much- I thought that myself and 6K seems reasonable for it if they can get the seat to work! I checked re recalls on the gov MOT website and it said there weren’t any but I’ll check on Ford website too- thanks for the tip
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thanks for your input. Im not particularly set on the S Max (far from it if you see my previous post!) I’m worried about the reliability of all the 7 seaters available that fit 3 kids on second row and have a decent boot. Thought S-Max seemed least bad of these (correct me if I’m wrong?)- alternatives are Citroen Berlingo / Peugeot Partner/ Vauxhall Combi - all with 1.2 Puretech engine, Peugeot 5008 (also 1.2 puretech), or VW sharan/ Seat Alhambra which seem to be unreliable from owner surveys.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thank you for this. Tried to reply before but put it in the wrong place so replying properly here.

Thanks for your input. Im not particularly set on the S Max (far from it if you see my previous post!) I’m worried about the reliability of all the 7 seaters available that fit 3 kids on second row and have a decent boot. Thought S-Max seemed least bad of these (correct me if I’m wrong?)- alternatives are Citroen Berlingo / Peugeot Partner/ Vauxhall Combi - all with 1.2 Puretech engine, Peugeot 5008 (also 1.2 puretech), or VW sharan/ Seat Alhambra which seem to be unreliable from owner surveys.

Wpuld a post 2019 petrol S Max be any better?
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Apparently the blue one has sold now… I will have to keep looking!
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - badbusdriver
Apparently the blue one has sold now… I will have to keep looking!

Regarding the blue one, I'm not sure why you'd consider one of its owners being a Ford dealer as a plus?.

What that means is the car will have been used as a demonstrator, loan car, dropping off/picking up customers, and possibly parts delivery too. During that 6 months it will have worked very hard being driven (probably quite harshly) by anybody and everybody!

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
I thought the opposite that it might not have done very much- but that was a total assumption on my part! Maybe I’m better off that it’s sold!
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - elekie&a/c doctor
3 previous owners on a 6 year old car doesn’t sound promising. You’ll be the fourth in the registration document.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - pd

Dealer + 2 other owners is not untypical for a 6 year old car. 2-3 year ownership periods are the norm.

I never get why people obsess about owners - I think it dates from the 1960s and "Friday" cars.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - pd
I thought the opposite that it might not have done very much- but that was a total assumption on my part! Maybe I’m better off that it’s sold!

Who knows. It could have been a pre-reg and sat there for 3 months and done 2 miles. The question is: it is any good now?

A car can have 17 stamps and 1 owner who polished it 3 times a day and did 2 miles at 10mph if the DMF is rattling and the engine missing it is no good. History is an important part of the process but there is only so much you can read into it.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thanks. I’m trying to work out what to use to help find a reliable car but I think the answer is that a risk free purchase doesn’t exist. Maybe I need to stop being so picky about the service hx and previous owners..
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - SLO76
The first car is gone, did you buy it or are you still looking?
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Still looking… I’ve just posted one I’ve seen sold by Cinch. Can’t wait for this car search to be successfully concluded!!
Ford S-MAX - Should I try it? Cinch car! - indecisivebuyer
Hi all,
For those not following my seemingly endless search for a new family car that accommodates 3 kids in the second row, I decided on a Ford S-Max. Petrol- because we live in a ULEZ area. manual because I’ve heard the automatics have issues.
What do you think of this one from Cinch?
www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202502259493949?s...a

www.cinch.co.uk/used-cars/make/model/details/a6f40...l


I wondered about trying it for 14 days and arranging a pre purchase inspection during that time too.
Has anyone else successfully done this? Any thoughts on the car or Cinch?
It says one previous owner but the different geographical areas for the servicing seems odd…
Thanks for your patience and responses- I hope this car search will be over soon!
Ford S-MAX - Should I try it? Cinch car! - Adampr

Maybe the owner moved house? Anyway, Cinch has a reasonably good reputation; they're BCA so the real stinkers get sent to auction. I can't see any harm in buying it and getting it inspected within 14 days.

Ford S-MAX - Should I try it? Cinch car! - corax

If you're set on it, just take heed of eleckie@ac doctors warning further up this thread, because this engine was revised by Ford in 2019 to address coolant issues, cylinder head cracks.

Ford S-MAX - Should I try it? Cinch car! - indecisivebuyer
Thanks. Would you suggest buying from 2019 onwards in that case?
I’m really stuck as I don’t love the S Max but the alternatives all seem to have potential engine problems too- like the 1.2 petrol engines in the Citroen berlingo or Peugeot 5008. Other option is VW Sharan- do you think this would be a safer bet in terms of reliability? I thought the S Max petrol seemed the best of the quite poor options.
Ford S-MAX - Should I try it? Cinch car! - indecisivebuyer
Yes I know a few people who bought from Cinch and are happy. I guess I just need to be pretty sure about the car as probably quite a hassle to return
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
New option for used car search
Partner has always been keen on this car as an option for us.
Wondering if anyone has any thoughts?
It’s high mileage and know they can be used as taxis…

www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411076050949?s...a
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - Adampr
New option for used car search Partner has always been keen on this car as an option for us. Wondering if anyone has any thoughts? It’s high mileage and know they can be used as taxis… www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202411076050949?s...a

Previous MOTs have a couple of advisories for there being a child seat in there, so unlikely it was a taxi. The 1.4tsi is a good engine.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thanks I thought that was a good sign. Glad to hear positive thoughts on the engine too.. think I will try and look at it tomorrow
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - SLO76
I like these, and the 1.4 petrol is unlikely to have ever been a taxi. This engine has a good reputation and the timing belt interval has been dramatically increased from every 5yrs regardless of mileage to 150k or 15yrs according to the last Seat dealer I spoke to, though I’d personally want it done along with the tensioner and water pump well before that. I still don’t trust a rubber belt to last the life of any car.

As with many dealers these days the description in the advert is utter garbage, no mention of service history etc so you’ll need to call and ask. If it doesn’t have a full or very nearly full record then I’d leave it be. It might be a good engine, but any turbocharged motor needs fresh oil every 12mths or 10,000 miles.

The petrol avoids all the hassle with emissions control equipment that blight modern diesels. I looked at these before buying our Merc estate, but the bulk seemed to be diesel autos using the fragile and hideously expensive to fix DSG box when I was looking. A manual car with sensible miles was hard to find as most owners keep them until they’re done so you’ll need to check it carefully.

They’re highly practical and very comfortable.

Edited by SLO76 on 06/03/2025 at 20:42

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thank you, this is really helpful. On their own website they say it has a full service history and one owner but they also say the MOT expires in October which is a fiction as I can see it’s expired… I’ve also been told about a good service history before and it’s quite a different story when I get there and look at the paperwork.

As you say, I’ve struggled to find a petrol manual version of the Alhambra but particularly one that isn’t really expensive. Interestingly quite a few that have come up have been ex-motability with low mileage and correspondingly very high prices.

The mileage on this is a little higher than I’d like but it matches the average yearly mileage we do as a family so dont think I should be put off just because of that.
I’ll call them tomorrow and enquire more and see if they will let me do a pre purchase inspection- if they say no I’ll leave it! And definitely will heed your advice on the service history - thank you
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - badbusdriver

On their own website they say it has a full service history and one owner but they also say the MOT expires in October which is a fiction as I can see it’s expired

You may be misreading this, it could mean that the car has been in stock for some time. If so, why?

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - elekie&a/c doctor
Road tax expired last October 24 , so presumably hasn’t been on the road since then. Or maybe motorbility with zero ved ?
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - RT
Road tax expired last October 24 , so presumably hasn’t been on the road since then. Or maybe motorbility with zero ved ?

Vehicles which qualify for zero VED still have to renew annually, albeit at zero cost

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - catsdad

According to Total Car Check it’s been on sale since November 24. The price has steadily fallen from £12.5k and the advertised mileage hasn’t changed. This is not conclusive evidence that it’s a bad car but something has put people off.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thank you, that’s very interesting. I’ve been looking since December so not sure why it’s only come up on auto trader more recently.
Maybe it’s the service history which has put people off? Or that it’s quite high mileage for the age of car?
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Hi, I’ve called and spoken to the dealer today. MOT is definitely expired and will need re doing. Not sure why they had October on the ad- maybe cut and paste job from a different car I guess.
He said car has had 5 x services - could only tell me the mileages when the car was serviced-
20000, 25600, 53400, 63100, 82300
Last service was with them
I’m a bit concerned that the first one wasn’t until 20,000 miles? And another big gap from 63-82K.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
I’ve put the service history in terms of mileage below- quite a few gaps and definitely not every 10K
20000, 25600, 53400, 63100, 82300

Do you think it’s worth a 4hr return trip to go and see it (with kids in tow)??!
The service history seems abit odd to me but difficult to get any more details without the paperwork.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - elekie&a/c doctor
The majority of these for sale are mainly diesel, so to find a petrol model is quite rare . Don’t think the service history would put me off . It looks a pretty decent motor from the photos . The fuel consumption displayed on the dash is not very good , but that may be because it’s not been driven around much.
Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - catsdad

The service history might in part be due to long-life services, although some of the gaps are even longer than that. The last time I looked at buying a car of this age it was rare to find one with a full annual history. It’s just another factor to bear in mind rather than a definite “no no”.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - catsdad

I overlooked that this car is a four hour round trip away. It’s not too much of an issue as a one- off if you really want the car. The problem comes if there is a post-sale issue. Given that any third party warranty is very limited in a car of this age it’s down to you to return the car to the dealer in the event of a problem. This could get very onerous.

Ford S-MAX - Family car search is slowly progressing… - indecisivebuyer
Thanks. I decided to go for it - the car looked good and the servicing paperwork seemed fine, although granted had gaps as mentioned above. I have paid a deposit and just booking a pre purchase inspection. Hoping this is the end of the searching…