Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Hi, I bought the car last April from a Toyota dealer, with a mileage of 24129 , I paid £9200. They gave me a 1 year warranty. I took it back to them today for a MOT. Mileage 26214. It's failed massively, dangerous defects, do not drive. They said they will pay £173.99 brakepipe incorrectly routed not secure.

...I have to pay £246 lower arm bush excessive movement, £42 tyre also advisories - £500 brake pipes, handbrake £72, arm bush £26 (another one) , £42: Ant advice please Guy's? So annoyed and fed up. The salesgirl said it was to be expected on a second hand car.

Edited by Eddie123 on 23/01/2025 at 17:43

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - badbusdriver

When does the MOT actually expire?

Also, how was the car driving when you took it in (do the brakes work, does the car steer, etc)?

I ask because some of those prices seem excessive and I'd take it to a local trusted and independent garage (not a dealership). Unless the tyre tread is actually below the legal limit, nothing there (without more detail) jumps out at me as actually being dangerous (assuming the car drives ok), although they clearly need attending to for the MOT.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - elekie&a/c doctor
How can it need all that work on a 24 k miles car ? My 22 year old 120 k mile focus recently had a mot and it failed on a perished tyre . I would say all those faults were present when you purchased the vehicle from the dealer. They’ve sold you a car not fit for purpose.

Edited by elekie&a/c doctor on 23/01/2025 at 18:37

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Halmerend
Our ten year owned and 70,000 miles Suzuki hardly had a penny spent on it for mot’s other than consumables so something looks amiss here. Unless the quality of the cars has dipped!

Edited by Halmerend on 23/01/2025 at 18:41

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Yeah how can it? It's a main Toyota dealer. I've covered 2k mile in the last 10 month since I bought it. They had said it was under a 1 year warranty when I drove it away last year. So apart from £180 they will pay and apparently that states brakepipe incorrectly routed, and I ask how? They have left me to foot a bill of £246 must do and £850 advisories. I am no mechanic but I can see this car must not if been fit for purpose when sold. I am absolutely devastated. Is there nothing can be done?

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

The car was driving great, no faults. I do have a trustworthy garage who are reviewing for me. The tyre thing says spare, canister expired so part of the fail too.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Steveieb

So can you explain whether the car is still with the main dealers Eddie as it’s got a fail ?

Normally Toyota dealers concentrate on servicing cars under warranty and most Prius used as taxis get looked after by specialists once they are out of warranty.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

No, it's not. I paid the £55 MOT

Booked in for 10 days time so they could do all the must do repairs.

I drove it away and signed a disclaimer

. I won't be driving it incidentally I know the legalities. I was so shocked I just felt like I was being stung and needed to speak to my little garage who I have always used, as I said. The little garage are going to review it for me.

Edited by Eddie123 on 23/01/2025 at 20:14

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - elekie&a/c doctor
Firstly , spare wheels and tyres , including the can of emergency inflator goo are not mot testable items . I would find out who carried out the previous mot test . Can’t see how it can develop all these expensive faults within 2k miles . Something not right here
Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - badbusdriver

Did the car have any advisories on its last MOT?

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

No, none at all, I have been checking

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

I have the names and addresses of the last MOT testers. They're on the paperwork for the last test and also you can easily find them on gov.uk with the ref no. I am just not sure what I can do with that information, I was wondering if they do dodgy mots unfortunately

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - elekie&a/c doctor
A Suzuki at a Toyota dealer must have been a part exchange or bought at auction . I would take it to an independent garage for an assessment.
Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

At time of sale they told me it was one of the staffs at the Toyota garage and she was selling it as she was buying an electric car, they even gave her name and everything, so it seemed perfectly reasonable. I am taking it to the garage I know tomorrow, he said he will look at it.

Edited by Eddie123 on 23/01/2025 at 21:29

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

What say I ask for a meeting with the manager and put my case to him?

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76

Sounds like they’re at it. I sincerely doubt the “brake pipe incorrectly routed” unless it’s been in a major accident. Why would the brake pipes need doing on such a young low mileage car? They won’t. Bushes are unlikely but possible in theory, but you’d usually feel or hear them. The last car I took to a main dealer was my then mint but elderly Toyota Avensis, they condemned the car saying it needed almost £2,000 of urgent work to be safe. I took it to the local tyre and exhaust centre who’d fitted the exhaust and cat that were causing multiple warning lights to come on and told them to sort it as it was either breaking up inside or hadn’t been fitted right. Cost to repair not a single penny, the Toyota main dealer wanted £2k! Said car went on to give reliable service for several years after and continues today with another happy owner. Garages, particularly main dealers are robbing bams! Take your car for a second opinion at a decent local independent.

Removed name of dealer. I appreciate they had a variable reputation but as the website that hosted complaints was taken down after apparently receiving legal action, we can't take any risks here. Mod

Edited by Xileno on 24/01/2025 at 08:31

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - FiestaOwner
Garages, particularly main dealers are robbing bams! Take your car for a second opinion at a decent local independent.

^^^^^ This ^^^^^^

There are many decent independent garages. Main dealers often look to create work.

Remember that some MOT testers like to create screeds of spurious advisories. The car might not be nearly as bad as it's being made to sound.

As SLO says, get a second opinion from a trusted independent garage.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Thanks guys, taking into my garage today for independent advice. I am still reeling!

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Falkirk Bairn

My 2001 Honda Civic had a light on dashboard and took it to the Honda dealer to find the fault and fix it - this was in 2007 and roughly 90K(bought brand new)

Sorted light for £60 BUT list many items in need of attention. The bill was roughly £2,700, the car's value was around £2,500 as a T/I

Listed - new compressor for the AC. 2 x "Dangerous tyres" (2mm minimum on worn edges) Rheostat Fan (only 1 speed), Suspension/steering issues needing rectified, disks and pads .................

Took it to my Indie who had done the MoT about a month or so before - he said nothing needed other than the rheostat and a recharge of the AC.

Complained to Honda and they arranged for my car to be looked at by an Edinburgh Honda dealer - rheostat and AC recharge - no other advisories!

Dealer, at the now long closed Honda garage, denied attempting to defraud me as it was their opinion and other garages had their opinion. Rheostat & AC done bill was around £150+ IIRC

X-trail (rather than CRV) bought months later - £2,750 T/I and complimented on condition of the 93K - 6+ year old. A Swindon Honda. Only modest repairs needed in or out of warranty - say £300 anti-roll bar bushes, rheostat, wing mirror (manual folding spring that failed due to overuse!)

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Engineer Andy
Garages, particularly main dealers are robbing bams! Take your car for a second opinion at a decent local independent.

^^^^^ This ^^^^^^

There are many decent independent garages. Main dealers often look to create work.

Remember that some MOT testers like to create screeds of spurious advisories. The car might not be nearly as bad as it's being made to sound.

As SLO says, get a second opinion from a trusted independent garage.

Trying to find a trustworthy indie can be difficult though. A naive fool who doesn't know they've been ripped off may say 'yeah, they're good' when they are quite the opposite.

Interwebs 'reviews' are often deliberately biased at each end of the spectrum - whether by fake employees / friends / family of the outfit, or on the other side, rivals or bitter customers who resented paying out for a problem they caused (for example) and/or where they were told some 'home truths' and some product they originally spent a lot on but poorly.

Rather like with insurers, most people go by how much they pay rather than the quality of the service (product) provided when it's really needed.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - edlithgow

You say its under warranty, and yet this work isn't covered?

What would be?

To state the obvious, you dont need to get MOT advisories done. Thats why they call them advisories.

But I'd expect them to be covered by an actual warranty

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

I know I am gutted about it all

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

UPDATE...

I picked my car up from the little garage this morning

They put it through the MOT again and it's PASSED

The opinion is, everything was totally exaggerated and the big dealerships have quotas to meet, and they are more than happy to sell their customers down the river. Last thing they told me the other day was, "don't drive the car, do you want a hire car while we do the jobs?" which I refused. I have shed a tear today -

It's gone from a £1k bill and a failed MOT to nothing. The advisories I am left with is to monitor and repair if necessary, arm pain brush worn and brake pipes clips missing but adequately supported. Have a great weekend everyone!

Edited by Eddie123 on 25/01/2025 at 09:00

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - paul 1963

Eddie, think it's time to contact the relevant agency, the other place needs to lose their mot licence.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Steveieb

Great news.

None of the fails seem to have concerned them when they sold you the car!

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

I asked my garage he told me it wasn't worth pursuing for me. As for the failed MOT? It was done on site at the dealership, so I can only assume they are just going to fill me with bs unfortunately. I agree with you, but the outcome? Not sure if I would get anywhere. Thanks anyway!

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76

UPDATE...

I picked my car up from the little garage this morning

They put it through the MOT again and it's PASSED

The opinion is, everything was totally exaggerated and the big dealerships have quotas to meet, and they are more than happy to sell their customers down the river. Last thing they told me the other day was, "don't drive the car, do you want a hire car while we do the jobs?" which I refused. I have shed a tear today -

It's gone from a £1k bill and a failed MOT to nothing. The advisories I am left with is to monitor and repair if necessary, arm pain brush worn and brake pipes clips missing but adequately supported. Have a great weekend everyone!

Thought as much. A wee lesson in how dishonest most main dealers are - thus the term “main s******s” which is oft used by the trade to refer to them.
Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - FP

Glad it's all been satisfactorily resolved, but a dreadful indictment of the dishonesty of the motor trade, not to speak of the stress caused. Well done for sticking it out.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Thankyou! Contemplating trying to see the manager to get my MOT refunded, . Opinions please?

Edited by Eddie123 on 25/01/2025 at 10:00

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - John F

Thankyou! Contemplating trying to see the manager to get my MOT refunded, . Opinions please?

You should get it. Many years ago my son took his old Xantia for a cheapo MoT at a national chain famed for rapidity of fitting. They did the emissions trick to produce a fail reading and tried to persuade him it needed a new cat - from their overpriced source, potentially several hundred pounds. I got wind of this, took it to my trusted indie a mile away where it passed the emissions test (and the rest of the MoT) with no difficulty. I complained to Vosa, the trading standards and the chain's head office. They refunded the MoT fee.

Brake pipes are a well known opportunity for sharp practice. Just before I bought it, my Audi's owner was advised of 'slight corrosion' to one of the front brake pipes. So he had it replaced! It is now over 19yrs old, all the other pipes are original, as are those of my 44yr old TR7. If a car is maintained properly, pipes should not need replacing during its life.

It is a national disgrace that testing centres and repair garages are usually one and the same.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76

Thankyou! Contemplating trying to see the manager to get my MOT refunded, . Opinions please?

You can politely ask, but most likely they’ll say no. A nasty trustpilot review however often results in a positive outcome I find. Several times I’ve used this tool I’ve had a refund or similar to get me to remove or edit the review.
Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Thankyou

That's an idea

Edited by Eddie123 on 25/01/2025 at 11:03

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Chris M

"A nasty trustpilot review however often results in a positive outcome I find. Several times I’ve used this tool I’ve had a refund or similar to get me to remove or edit the review."

From Trustpilot's guidelines: "Receiving an incentive to write, change or delete a review is a big no-no."

If your review is a genuine and true review of your experience with a company, you should be sticking by it. Not using it to blackmail the company.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Eddie123

Yeah it's always a fine line, thanks! Going to start off with an email to the Manager and take it from there.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76

"A nasty trustpilot review however often results in a positive outcome I find. Several times I’ve used this tool I’ve had a refund or similar to get me to remove or edit the review."

From Trustpilot's guidelines: "Receiving an incentive to write, change or delete a review is a big no-no."

If your review is a genuine and true review of your experience with a company, you should be sticking by it. Not using it to blackmail the company.

The outcome changed, the firm made the effort to improve the situation and their service to me and thus they deserve the credit by way of that negative review either being deleted or edited to show this. I don’t see it as blackmail. The firm acted wrongly and they took the opportunity to change this. Fair enough.
Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Orb>>.

I have not had to leave a bad review about a garage for many years, last one was a Fast fit tyre place who tried to convince me that my rear shock absorbers were leaking. Protest to Head office got that dealer with.

But an honest factual review can make people reflect.

It has worked in other areas such as Hotels.Got a complete refund for 2 unused nights when I cancelled check in after seeing the state and smell of the public areas supposedly a 4**** hotel.

Edited by Orb>>. on 25/01/2025 at 16:49

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Chris M

But how does your review help anyone other than yourself if you delete it?

If you left a one star review saying they're a bunch of cheating liars because they wrongly failed your car; which subsequently passed first time at another garage, the only thing you could genuinely delete is the cheating liars bit. The rest is factually true and may be of use to a potential customer. If you delete the entire review, it serves no purpose other than to blackmail the garage.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - leaseman

From what I have read, seen and perceived over the years, there seems to be more spurious, or, indeed, fraudulent, posts praising the performance of suppliers or service companies in order to boost their image.

An honest and factually correct review cannot be criticised or acted upon, and is extremely helpful and beneficial to potential users.

Honesty and stating facts rather than opinions is, to my mind, the name of the game.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76
“ From what I have read, seen and perceived over the years, there seems to be more spurious, or, indeed, fraudulent, posts praising the performance of suppliers or service companies in order to boost their image.”

Agree. Facebook is the worst for it, look at any advert and you’ll find dozens of cringingly praising recommendations in the comments, but take a look at the accounts these posts come from and they’re blatantly fake.

Ditto Tripadvisor, we stayed in a hotel in Rhodes a few years ago and the hotel had loads of excellent reviews, but when we got there it was right at the end of the runway at Rhodes airport! The noise was horrendous and went on from 5am to after midnight. No way were these reviews genuine. Same with many other hotels I’ve stayed in over the years.



Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - Orb>>.
. Ditto Tripadvisor, we stayed in a hotel in Rhodes a few years ago and the hotel had loads of excellent reviews, but when we got there it was right at the end of the runway at Rhodes airport! The noise was horrendous and went on from 5am to after midnight. No way were these reviews genuine. Same with many other hotels I’ve stayed in over the years.

And that is why i check hotel locations on maps BEFORE I book.!!!

One in Hiroshima next to the railway station good location.. opposite side next to a motorway overpass, not so good.

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - SLO76
“ And that is why i check hotel locations on maps BEFORE I book.!!!”

Wise, and we now do likewise after that disaster. It wouldn’t have been so bad but SWMBO was pregnant at the time so we couldn’t just get tanked up on the all inclusive drink before passing out in typical Scots holidaymaker style. I spent that holiday driving all day to let her sleep in the car since the hotel was in the worst location you could ever picture - that wee hire Fiat Panda earned its keep, and was the ideal companion on those tiny twisty roads and on the old town streets. Runway at one side and a dog kennels at the other, it was surreal. We had to leave early, before she killed someone. Fortunately her brother worked for Easy Jet at the time so we couldn’t just use staff travel for peanuts.

Edited by SLO76 on 25/01/2025 at 19:31

Suzuki swift turbo 1.0 2018 model - MOT advice - FiestaOwner

UPDATE...

I picked my car up from the little garage this morning

They put it through the MOT again and it's PASSED

The opinion is, everything was totally exaggerated and the big dealerships have quotas to meet, and they are more than happy to sell their customers down the river. Last thing they told me the other day was, "don't drive the car, do you want a hire car while we do the jobs?" which I refused. I have shed a tear today -

It's gone from a £1k bill and a failed MOT to nothing. The advisories I am left with is to monitor and repair if necessary, arm pain brush worn and brake pipes clips missing but adequately supported. Have a great weekend everyone!

Great news.

I now use a very trusted local independent (recommended by friends and neighbours) for servicing and MOT's. Not the cheapest place, but they don't try to create extra work.