Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - leef

As we have seen discussed many times on this forum, the old argument is Premium Fuel (V power etc) worth it, is there a big difference etc. Well I wtched this video earlier from James Martin JayEmm who got a fuel expert on to explain... I found it very informative, worth a watch. Link below.

Cheers

Lee

youtu.be/Pwk_u71Izpg?si=KrroEgTrwcB6mtne

Edited by leef on 17/01/2025 at 11:23

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - mcb100
Wonder if we’ll get to the point where EV charging stations will be offering regular electrons or premium electrons?
Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - daveyjp

In the past the attraction of supermarket fuel was the price difference. Since the owner of EG fuel stations bought Asda this has largely been lost and I haven't filled up at a supermarket for years.

Now I use the local BP station which is same price as the Sainsbury's down the road.

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Big John
Wonder if we’ll get to the point where EV charging stations will be offering regular electrons or premium electrons?

That's not a "positive" attitude!!

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Brit_in_Germany

Would filling an EV up with positrons be like putting petrol in a diesel car?

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Chris M

Does filling an EV with "green" electricity make it go like the wind?

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - FoxyJukebox
There is a large independent supermarket nr Rye in East Sussex that has the cheapest petrol in the surrounding area-however the price of food goods for sale inside is more expensive than any of its competitors.
People aren’t fooled-at least I’m not!

Edited by FoxyJukebox on 18/01/2025 at 18:08

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Andrew-T

I don't bother with fuel prices any more - on the 40-mile journey I do into north Wales about a dozen times a year I only pass two filling stations, so I no longer add miles looking to save a few pence. Back in the days of Green Shield stamps it was almost a test of character to buy the cheapest stuff possible :-)

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Terry W

I have noticed zero difference in performance or mpg, nor had any incidence of engine failure, over the last 40+ years of using supermarket fuel.

I tend to buy when fuel gets to ~25% full. I do not drive extra miles to fill up - but will happily use cheaper supermarket fuel if available.

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Engineer Andy

Having speed watched the video (FFWD through the bits of fluff etc), I thought it only partially addressed the touted 'perennial' questions over whether to use super fuels or not:

It didn't address the large differences between standard and performance cars where the octane rating makes a bigger difference to the increase in power output in the latter than the former;

The effect of the cleaning agents in 'premium brand' fuels (especially superfuels) can make, especially on older engines and/or those gunking up to some degree, but particularly those that are port injected.

The cost / benefit analysis of using superfuels or 'premium branded' ones vs occasionally using fuel additive products, e.g. Redex or similar, that appear to perform a 'concentrated' cleaning benefit to engines, particularly port injected ones, at a far lower cost.

I wonder also actually how much of an 'environmental benefit' is apparent using these higher percentage biofuels etc when making and using them appears to be much more complex and requires a good deal more maintenance, both of which will obviously require personnel, equipment and power/fuel to carry it out, plus the (likely higher) incidence of errors in manufacturing that cause engine failures, that then also require large amounts of energy to be expended to remedy the situation.

I also wonder if those 'more environmentally conscious' investors come from certain large pension fund investors who have been driving policy that way despite no significant input from the average person who contributes pension payments. I don't recall giving them permission to tell such firms how to invest my money, for example - I think we should and have the option to do different things, which most people don't.

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - RT

I also wonder if those 'more environmentally conscious' investors come from certain large pension fund investors who have been driving policy that way despite no significant input from the average person who contributes pension payments. I don't recall giving them permission to tell such firms how to invest my money, for example - I think we should and have the option to do different things, which most people don't.

Self-Invested Personal Pensions (SIPPs) allow you to invest in funds and companies that you select

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Engineer Andy

I also wonder if those 'more environmentally conscious' investors come from certain large pension fund investors who have been driving policy that way despite no significant input from the average person who contributes pension payments. I don't recall giving them permission to tell such firms how to invest my money, for example - I think we should and have the option to do different things, which most people don't.

Self-Invested Personal Pensions (SIPPs) allow you to invest in funds and companies that you select

That may be true now for a new employer, but not existing / previous ones, where rarely they gave any choice in the matter to what pension you / their contribution went to. I recall some of mine would not contribute at all (and to their nominated 'provider' only) unless you did to a minimum percentage.

Presumably SIPPs require you to either 'do your own homework' on what to pick for the investments (they may give basic [only] information about such options to guide you) or you have to pay (probably quite a bit) for 'professional' advise or a good deal more for an 'active' management of said policy (with or without advice given).

It would be nice to have some kind of more basic option(s) to say yes or no to certain ideological choices in how investments are made, which still leaves things relatively open to how they are invested.

Sorry to go off-topic somewhat.

I think that superfuels are over-rated for use in standard performance cars, especially newer, direct-injection petrol engined ones. Similarly with E10 over E5 and below as regards the 'environmental benefits', given the big downsides of growing crops to make alcohol-based fuels vs using that land to grow food and feed stock.

Any - The old argument, Supermarket Fuel v Premium Fuel - Joseph Holt

I run a golf 5 1.9 pd, close on 180,000miles now, had it since 50kmiles, allways fill up at Asda and 300ml of 2-stroke, done this now for about 5 years, and the engine is a beauty.

Thinking about a civic with the 2.2 i-dtec if I can find one with reasonable miles.