Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - geoffs

Ran over a pothole in yesterday in Staffordshire. The pothole was deep enough to cause a loud bang in the car. Also cables visible at the bottom of the hole.

Examined the car by torchlight when I got home and couldn't see tyre or wheel damage. Just to be sure I took it to my local tyre dealer. He concurred that the tyres were okay BUT said the rear axle was out of alignment and recommended taking it to a Ford dealer. Local Ford dealer referred me to a 4 wheel alignment garage and car booked in for Monday morning.

Sounds like it is going to be an expensive repair.

Any thoughts or suggestions very welcome as am feeling thoroughly fed up (polite term).

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - badbusdriver

I wouldn't have thought having the alignment checked and adjusted if necessary should be particularly expensive (but it isn't something I've ever had done)

Sounds like you may have gotten off pretty lightly?

But your experience is exactly why people on here looking for cars are generally advised to stay way from the sportier trim levels in favour of something with a small diameter wheel and nice plump tyres. UK roads are in a truly shocking state with roads more akin to what you'll find in 3rd world countries, even war zones!. So buying something with large diameter alloys and ultra low profile tyres is (IMO) madness.

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - Engineer Andy

I wouldn't have thought having the alignment checked and adjusted if necessary should be particularly expensive (but it isn't something I've ever had done)

Sounds like you may have gotten off pretty lightly?

But your experience is exactly why people on here looking for cars are generally advised to stay way from the sportier trim levels in favour of something with a small diameter wheel and nice plump tyres. UK roads are in a truly shocking state with roads more akin to what you'll find in 3rd world countries, even war zones!. So buying something with large diameter alloys and ultra low profile tyres is (IMO) madness.

Absolutely agree. Whilst low profile tyres look good and will offer better grip (except on snow/ice and against aquaplaning) than 'standard' (50-65 ish) profile ones, for most non-high performance cars, the difference isn't 'wow', especially at road legal speeds.

We need more car owners to feed back to manufacturers their dissatisfaction so that we go back to the far more sensible wheel and tyre sizes of 15-20 years ago and before. Now that tyre technology has moved on significantly (see the recent Engineering Explained YT podcast to how much - you'll be amazed), anything except proper high performance cars do not need low and especially ultra low profile tyres fitted.

I shudder to think how much more people spend on repairs and replacements of tyres, alloy wheels and suspension parts, never mind the likely bump in insurance premiums and possible money spent on physio etc for bad backs caused by the hard ride many such cars offer.

What many (I'm not accusing the OP here, just a general observation) people seem to fail to understand is that the relatively 'nice' ride of a new car hardens up quite a bit after the first 6 to 12 months and will only improve if the worn suspension parts are replaced. Much better to let a standard profile tyre take the strain and use its extra air cushioning, and hopefully lessen the chances and level of damage caused by potholes.

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - Engineer Andy

Ran over a pothole in yesterday in Staffordshire. The pothole was deep enough to cause a loud bang in the car. Also cables visible at the bottom of the hole.

Examined the car by torchlight when I got home and couldn't see tyre or wheel damage. Just to be sure I took it to my local tyre dealer. He concurred that the tyres were okay BUT said the rear axle was out of alignment and recommended taking it to a Ford dealer. Local Ford dealer referred me to a 4 wheel alignment garage and car booked in for Monday morning.

Sounds like it is going to be an expensive repair.

Any thoughts or suggestions very welcome as am feeling thoroughly fed up (polite term).

You might want to check whoever is responsible for the upkeep of that road (county council for most roads, or Highways England for the major trunk routes / motorways) to see if there has been a report prior to your incident of said pothole, given it sounds quite a significant one.

Many councils have reporting websites where you can check via a map and report new problems. Hopefully for you, someone reported it beforehand and long enough (and correctly) so that the minimum period for inspection/repair (even temporary repairs to 'make safe' expired prior to your incident.

If that's the case, then you could claim compensation from them for the repairs (there may be a limit on the amount paid out, not sure). If it hadn't been reported at all, then please report the fault and give some info on the report about the incident so that the responsible body can take swift action - it won't help you, but will help others, and hopefully you'll benefit from someone doing the same if you suffer a similar issue in the future.

Best of luck.

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - SLO76
Wheel alignment isn’t expensive, and it’s certainly worth having it checked. But don’t let anyone overcharge you or tell you your car needs work that it doesn’t need. Does it feel ok on the road?

Once you’ve had that done I’d suggest a quick visit to the opticians to see if they can help you avoid those potholes. :-)

Edited by SLO76 on 03/01/2025 at 19:16

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - mcb100
I had four wheel alignment done at a Kwik-Fit a couple of years ago - £75 from memory.
Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - geoffs

The tyre dealer, a local trustworthy one, suggested that the car had a fixed rear axle and that there was no local adjustment.

Apparently Ford started out with independent rear suspension but then changed in 2019 to rear axles.

Will keep you updated with what happens on Monday.

Ford Focus st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - bathtub tom

Check out www.fixmystreet.com/ and other council/highways/ agency type websites to see if the pothole had been previously reported (you did report it, didn't you?). If so they may be responsible for any costs.

Ford Focuas st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - geoffs

Check out www.fixmystreet.com/ and other council/highways/ agency type websites to see if the pothole had been previously reported (you did report it, didn't you?). If so they may be responsible for any costs.

Yes I reported it both by phone and on-line. Also it had been reported before. Took some photos and sent them in with the on line report. They want me to get the repair sorted out and then submit a claim with the receipts.

Apparently they then forward this to a team of solicitors who decide if they are liable.

Just had a look under the car and it is a torsion beam single axle. When this variant of Focus started the upmarket and bigger energy engines all had independent rear suspension . Sometime in May 2019 they resorted to this single axle. My car was registered in September!!

Also had a quick chat with Kwikfit and they said there are no adjustments can be made with this design...just a replacement.

I'll see what Monday brings but not looking a cheap fix at the moment.

Ford Focuas st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - mcb100
Even if there’s no adjustment at the rear, a four wheel alignment check will give you accurate data on which direction each wheel is pointing.
I’m assuming the tyre place did this just by looking at it?
Is it worth getting your insurer involved - it’s still an RTC, just with a pothole instead of another vehicle. They can then pursue a reimbursement from whoever is responsible for that stretch of road.
Ford Focuas st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - Engineer Andy

Check out www.fixmystreet.com/ and other council/highways/ agency type websites to see if the pothole had been previously reported (you did report it, didn't you?). If so they may be responsible for any costs.

Yes I reported it both by phone and on-line. Also it had been reported before. Took some photos and sent them in with the on line report. They want me to get the repair sorted out and then submit a claim with the receipts.

Apparently they then forward this to a team of solicitors who decide if they are liable.

That sounds like reasonable news. Most councils prefer to try and wheedle out of their responsibilities in that regard, given most pay out more than it costs to repair the pothole in the first place.

Just had a look under the car and it is a torsion beam single axle. When this variant of Focus started the upmarket and bigger energy engines all had independent rear suspension . Sometime in May 2019 they resorted to this single axle. My car was registered in September!!

They aren't the only ones to do this - Mazda did the same with their Focus-sized Mazda3 for its 4th gen car, which appeared in 2019. Even though they had 'divorced' from Ford in 2008, I suspect the 3rd gen Mazda3 and Focus had already been well in development then and still shared a decent amount of design cues.

I'd also bet many makes have gone this way as well to save on costs due to the simpler design.

Also had a quick chat with Kwikfit and they said there are no adjustments can be made with this design...just a replacement.

I'll see what Monday brings but not looking a cheap fix at the moment.

Hopefully you'll be able to recover the costs (I think you should include all your incidental expenses incurred, including fuel spent travelling to/from the dealerships / workshop(s), and, if needed, any hire / courtesy cars (many dealerships won't lend them free of charge any more), etc.

Keep a record as best you can. By rights, you shouldn't be out of pocket after all this, given it likely wasn't your fault.

Ford Focuas st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - geoffs

Some great news. Finally managed to get the Focus into a specialist body shop to check the 4 wheel alignment. They did say that the tyre shop I took it to previously hadn't got the equipment to do this so wandered how they knew the rear wheels were out if alignment.

They let me into the workshop to see for myself. Initially put the car on a ramp and couldn't see any visible damage at the front or rear. Also no movement on suspension joints. They next put clamps on each of the 4 wheels and then fixed cameras to the clamps. These then talked to a computer which said one of the front wheels was slightly out and in the yellow zone. They than adjusted into the green and gave me a print out of before and after.

Must admit it was a huge relief.!!

Ford Focuas st line 1.5 - Pothole damage - corax

Must admit it was a huge relief.!!

Sometimes hitting a pothole can sound worse than it actually is. I went over a shallow sunken gap with a sharp edge across the road before I could react, and it really crashed through the car. Took it to my tyre place, and the alignment was fine.

Focus suspension is pretty tough. They have refined it over the years with more robust parts compared to the early versions.