SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - Ovington

My car will be six years old in June 2025 and I plan to get it MOT'd and serviced at the same time. It will have done approx. 21000 miles by then. I have considered having the timing belt changed but there is conflicting information as to whether this is needed. It would appear that VAG, owners of SEAT, are now recommending changing it every 15 years or 180,000 miles. This concerns me given some of the horror stories I have read concerning rubber belts. Your advice would be appreciated

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - elekie&a/c doctor
It certainly doesn’t need changing at 21k mikes . Most makers belt intervals are 10 years or 100 k miles . ( not wet belt engines) .
SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - skidpan

On 04 July 2023 VAG in the UK issued a notice cancelling the 5 year cam belt change interval. The new interval is now 15 years or 180,000 miles. It states that dealers should only use the intervals shown on ElsaPro (the VAG online manual). VAG factories never had a 5 years interval for the post 2013 TSi engines of the new design, it was simply profiteering by VAG UK on behalf of their dealers. I remember seeing it in writing in the Golf Mk7 brochure that the Conti belt was fitted for the life of the engine.

An example of the profiteering dealers tried the dealer we bought the 2013 Leon from insisted the belt needed changing at 3 years or 30,000 miles. I contacted Seat UK who sent me a long e-mail giving their official position (as of 2013) that it was basically inspect annually from 50,000 miles or 5 years but only replace if the belt shows deterioration. Regardless of condition they said replace after 120,000 miles or 10 years. Better than the dealer but still not the official VAG interval.

We were lucky, our Fabia was 5 years old in April 2023 but due to its lower than average mileage I decided to leave it a year fully expecting no issues plus I also expected to PX the car before April 2024 (we did in March 2024).

We had no issues and when we were looking at deals not a single garage asked about the cam belt which kind of suggested they are well aware of the new intervals.

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - Halmerend
We had ours replaced on the Audi A1 1.0 TFSI at six years old only to be told 12 months later that it needn’t have been done. Basically they are lasting longer than the cars now unless you do mega mileage.
SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - John F
Basically they are lasting longer than the cars now unless you do mega mileage.

Since the turn of the century they should last the life of the car. Many years ago I was derided (with abusive language from one poster) for ignoring the belt change recommendation on our Mk1 Focus (10yrs and 100,000 miles). It went to the scr@pyard at 21yrs old and 160,000miles with the original belt. Its predecessor, a Passat 2.0GL, still had the original belt at 240,000 miles (although I did have to change the whining stiff tensioner pulley at about 140,000 before it seized and fried the belt).

Decent modern (21st century) belts (the early poor quality DAYCO crumblers in PSA's 1.2 puretech being a notable exception) cause no problems as long as the things they drive don't break or seize. I think possibly more damage has been done to engines by unnecessarily changing good quality original belts than if they had been left well alone. AFAIK the disgraceful profiteering by UK garages mentioned above has never been acknowledged officially. For modern BIO engines it is particularly important that the correct spec oil is used. I just don't trust garages to do this, so I always change the oil in Mrs F's Peugeot 1.2 puretech myself. Does anyone check whether the type of oil written on the service record - if indeed they bother to record it - is the same as the oil which actually went in the engine? A jug of cheapo 0-30 out of the generic stock barrel is just not good enough for the belt in a BIO engine.

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - skidpan

Many years ago I was derided (with abusive language from one poster) for ignoring the belt change recommendation on our Mk1 Focus (10yrs and 100,000 miles).

Possibly me. My Caterham has the Zetec 2 litre in it the very same engine as fitted to a Mk 1 Focus. Its 11 years since I changed the belt and I will be doing it over the next few weekend, already bought the kit.

Ford recommendation was and still is 10 years, 100,000 miles and I doubt they make any money from that at all. They don't even sell a kit now, the one I bought is a Gates. And how many Mk 1 Focus cars actually see a Ford dealer these days? the newest would be 21 years old.

When I replaced it in 2014 the belt was showing no signs of wear (it should be perfect since its low mileage) but the 10 year old idler pulley had considerable play in it. In the Caterham the belt and pulleys are exposed so its easy to keep an eye on things, pulley checked frequently and still seems ok but it does have belt tension on it. Be interesting to see if its OK this time.

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - bathtub tom

I think possibly more damage has been done to engines by unnecessarily changing good quality original belts than if they had been left well alone.

I had an early diseseal Focus and had the belt changed at an indie. Shortly after the fuel pump munched it self, expensively. I suspect changing the belt may have been a contributory factor. Talking to the indie, they admitted using an impact driver on the camshaft bolts and I wondered if this shock load could have been responsible?

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - Halmerend
Coincidentally my son’s six year old 1.0 ltr. Civic is having the cambelt changed tomorrow at our local Honda dealer. Cost is (ouch!) £1,200 although I understand that this used to be £1,700 as is now subsidised by Honda. My understanding (again) is that the belt on this engine sits in oil so it’s imperative that’s they are replaced as recommended.
SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - John F
Coincidentally my son’s six year old 1.0 ltr. Civic is having the cambelt changed tomorrow at our local Honda dealer. Cost is (ouch!) £1,200 although I understand that this used to be £1,700 as is now subsidised by Honda. My understanding (again) is that the belt on this engine sits in oil so it’s imperative that’s they are replaced as recommended.

You might be interested in this thread from the Honda forum.

www.hondacivicforum.co.uk/threads/10th-gen-timing-.../

Makes me wonder if Honda had a delivery of some of the same batch of crumbly DAYCO belts that caused a huge problem for Peugeot's 1.2 BIO puretech engine some years ago. This resulted in some very cautious change interval advice and a much needed improvement in belt quality.

Edited by John F on 09/01/2025 at 16:56

SEAT Arona auto 115 horsepower 1.0-litre petrol - Timing belt change - Halmerend
Thanks. Yes my son received a letter from Honda telling him that it was going to be replaced for free only to be told a few months later that the letter had been sent out incorrectly, along with many others. He was disappointed to say the least. Not Honda’s finest moment. I would imagine many people just won’t have it done or they’ll just try to move the car on before the belt change is needed.