Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - Joe Wadsworth

The car has run flat 275/35 R19 continentals

I always keep an eye on the tread depth, which was fine.

But the car failed MOT because on outside edge of both front tyres (where base meets side wall) its worn down to the structural threads, I.e. absolutely ALL rubber gone.!!!

Dealership said "it's a common fault with these types of tyres..."

Seems terrifying to me. The car does have that clever steering function, where it leans the wheel over, to reduce the turning circle. Maybe that's contributing?

Any thoughts / experience / points anyone has on this would be welcome.

More / less pressure would help???

I'm swapping like like tyres for now, but longer term... something different maybe??

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - RT

I always keep an eye on the tread depth, which was fine.

But the car failed MOT because on outside edge of both front tyres (where base meets side wall) its worn down to the structural threads, I.e. absolutely ALL rubber gone.!!

Aren't those two statements contradictory?

I measure the tread depth of my tyres every 5,000 miles, at 6 different points across the width of each tyre - the results are then put in a spreadsheet so I can analyse the rate of wear and make an informed guess on tyre pressure and/or the need for a full 12-axis laser alignment.

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - edlithgow

I always keep an eye on the tread depth, which was fine.

But the car failed MOT because on outside edge of both front tyres (where base meets side wall) its worn down to the structural threads, I.e. absolutely ALL rubber gone.!!

Aren't those two statements contradictory?

I measure the tread depth of my tyres every 5,000 miles, at 6 different points across the width of each tyre - the results are then put in a spreadsheet so I can analyse the rate of wear and make an informed guess on tyre pressure and/or the need for a full 12-axis laser alignment.

Dont seem contradictory to me.

There is, pretty much inevitably, going to be a point where the tread ends and the sidewall begins, which would likely be exempt even from your intense tread surveillance programme, and very likely from the more relaxed (and ...er...normal?) regime implied by "keep an eye on the tread"

OP, maybe investigate the disappearance of chalk marks across the width of the tyre and down the sidewall during cornering manouvres at different tyre pressures.

And maybe dont buy another one.

Edited by edlithgow on 12/12/2024 at 03:52

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - focussed

"Any thoughts / experience / points anyone has on this would be welcome.

More / less pressure would help???"

Outside front's edge wear would indicate that the pressure is a tad low, does the inside edge show wear too?

Are you sure that you are measuring your tyre pressures accurately?

For instance checking and inflating tyres cold is good, but doing it with one side with the sun on the tyres and the other side in the shade will result in the sunny side being 2-3 psi low when there is no sun ie both fronts at the same temperature.

I have a selection of tyre pressure gauges - only 3 of them are anything like accurate ie + or -

0.5 psi - An old Dunlop stick gauge from my late father, a Motometer dial type and another German dial type.

Most digital types I have are + or - 3psi so not that accurate.

Edited by focussed on 12/12/2024 at 12:25

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - Manatee

Good question. If not, | think it's likely that the inward leaning front wheel, combined with power steering and frequent manoeuvring in a heavy car, could account for the tyre damage.

I'm surprised it wasn't noticed on the outside however. I had a Scorpio about 25 years ago, when the Highways dept added about a mile of very ugly home made speed cushions to my daily route. I got into the habit of straddling them. AT the MoT, the inside edges on the fronts were shredded wire wire hanging out. Very hard to see under those cavernous arches.

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - focussed

Yes - I've seen that before on a Mitsubishi Outlander owned by some friends of ours, she was a nurse and had to run the gauntlet of dozens of speed cushions on her commute and in the hospital car park, and she used to straddle them until I advised her not to and showed her the damage not quite as bad as you describe but certainly showed chewed up inner edges.

Edited by focussed on 12/12/2024 at 21:15

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - Engineer Andy

Yes - I've seen that before on a Mitsubishi Outlander owned by some friends of ours, she was a nurse and had to run the gauntlet of dozens of speed cushions on her commute and in the hospital car park, and she used to straddle them until I advised her not to and showed her the damage not quite as bad as you describe but certainly showed chewed up inner edges.

Good point, although some larger (wider) cars can often avoid such problems because they have sufficient space between the left and right sets of tyres to straddle them without damaging the inside corners of their tyres. I suspect the wide, low profile nature of the OP's tyres don't help.

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - Brit_in_Germany

My Jaguar XF, a similar car, also suffered from this, eating the inside edges, so maybe it is a 'feature' of the steering set up.

Merc W213 E Class - Terrifying Tyres - Adampr

Of your pressures are fine, get the alignment checked.