I've used the Gridserve facility on the outskirts of Norwich. Completely agree with what you say - it's an excellent setup.

Edited by mcb100 on 17/08/2023 at 10:50

If all EVs only used publicly available charging points, the amount of land required for "refuelling" would exceed that required for ICE by a factor of 10-20.

Calculation based on the time stationary being refuelled - say - ICE 5 minutes to get 200 miles range, EV 60 minutes to get similar range = 12 times.

"Refuelling" EVs will frequently be done at home, work, shopping, on street, etc. Thus the number of charge points required will be very much less than the 10-20 factor.

Unlikely vast swathes of the country will be covered by charging points - more likely a gradual change will repurpose existing facilities - eg: retail parks with reduced parking needs due to online shopping converted to charging points.

I think they have 36 chargers. Its in an industrial estate so that limits its Recreational prospects. Its just great at what it does, I can accept that. Plenty of seating and nice coffee.

Plus it charged up so quick I barely had time to finish the coffee. I used one of the 90kw CCS chargers. They have 350kw chargers for those that can use them , not me. Mine tops out at 100kw. Think newer Tesla' might be able to use them.

Edited by Ethan Edwards on 17/08/2023 at 21:39

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I'm sure all the peasants in the ICEs will rejoice in your lovely time. Unfortunately they won't be able to afford this wonderful experience, even in 7 years time, when they've been forced (priced) off the road and are now waiting in the pouring rain for an hour (shopping getting soaked or defrosting) for a cramped, smelly bus to get to their destination on the other side of their 15 minute city in twice as long as the EV would. Sadly they also cannot affor a coffee at Costa while they wait.

ICE vehicles are not being banned for use in 7 years time as you full well know. If you want to argue a point at least stick to actual facts rather than hyperbole.

Gridserve Braintree

www.gridserve.com/electric-vehicle-charging/electr.../

Been on a bit of a long ..long trip in my EV today.

So I needed a top up to get home ( with assurance)..probably could have squeaked it but why risk it.

Well the Gridserve operation was the first time I've ever needed a public charger in two years of EV ownership. What a superb location. Lots of chargers, pretty much all vacant. So plug her in, wave the contact less card and trot off for a frothy coffee.

Just had time to drink it and I'm up at 80% (from less than 20) so off I go. Lovely stop, an M&S, Costa a newsagent a chemist stand. Ahem facilities and comfy chairs. If this is the future I like it. It makes the premium leccy price acceptable , especially as it was spotless, tidy and clean. Bravo Gridserve.

[satire]

I'm sure all the peasants in the ICEs will rejoice in your lovely time. Unfortunately they won't be able to afford this wonderful experience, even in 7 years time, when they've been forced (priced) off the road and are now waiting in the pouring rain for an hour (shopping getting soaked or defrosting) for a cramped, smelly bus to get to their destination on the other side of their 15 minute city in twice as long as the EV would. Sadly they also cannot affor a coffee at Costa while they wait.

Some of us buy used vehicles which are cheaper. And don't exaggerate and rant.

A report in today's Telegraph describes the terrible experience of a holidaymaker in Italy using an EV. Worth a read if you have access.

He was a bit of an i**** for not checking where the charger was (why didn't he just phone the car hire company) and allegedly wasn't aware that Tesla Superchargers only worked with Teslas despite holidaying with a motoring journalist.

That is when the i****s weren't driving up footpaths....

Maybe Gridserve need to look at Italy as clearly a gap in the market for them!

Edited by pd on 20/08/2023 at 20:39