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Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - _

Saw an aquainatance at the supermarket today with an Aug 2022 white jogger.

Looked good in the flesh, but not sure about the seats.

Thoughts.

Edited by _ORB_ on 17/03/2023 at 05:59

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Adampr

I think they look great. I didn't consider one when I was looking for a big car as the hybrid wasn't out so it was a bit underpowered. Presumably, the entire interior is a bit on the cheap side, but it does seem very well thought out.

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Metropolis.
If I had one I would have no choice but to also buy a Sprinter.

Good to see budget brands like this with more models though.
Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - badbusdriver

Its just the kind of car that appeals to me and if I needed a 7 seater I'd definitely be interested. Seen a few round my way now as taxi's.

Re it being underpowered, not sure I'd agree. People get really hung up about power outputs because cars these days have so much more than cars used to. I also feel that people get confused between how much power they want and how much they need. There is a mentality about power/performance, most prevalent in the motoring press but it certainly crops up on the forum too, about what is considered acceptable. Bearing in mind the speed limit in this country, the traffic conditions, and how I drive, I would have no problem with a Jogger 1.0TCE.

It has 110bhp, a maximum of 200nm of torque from 2900-3500rpm and a kerb weight of 1205kg,

Compare the stats to some previous 7/8 seat family cars:

The 2.3 n/a diesel version of the Peugeot 505 (1979) estate had 70bhp, a maximum of 129nm of torque @ 2000rpm and a kerb weight of circa 1300kg (The Dad of a school friend had two Peugeot 504 estates with this engine, one used as a family car and one with the seats removed to use for his job as a mobile fish seller. He didn't hang about with either and the times I was in the family car, it felt plenty quick enough!)

The entry level 2.0 (carb) petrol version of the original Renault Espace (1984) had 110bhp, a maximum of 163nm @ 3000rpm and a kerb weight of 1200kg

The entry level diesel version of the original Ford Galaxy (1995) had 90bhp, a maximum of 202nm of torque @ 1900rpm and a kerb weight of 1638kg

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Adampr

I want the power/torque because it's a much more relaxing drive than constantly changing gear whilst revving the nuts off the engine. Kind of moot now, anyway, as the hybrid has been launched and covers that off.

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - badbusdriver

I want the power/torque because it's a much more relaxing drive than constantly changing gear whilst revving the nuts off the engine. Kind of moot now, anyway, as the hybrid has been launched and covers that off.

But it is a turbo and so does have a decent slug of torque. OK, peak torque does not arrive at as low revs as the VAG 1.0tsi, but I see no reason you'd need to be revving it that hard unless it simply isn't as quick as you want it to be.

As for the hybrid, that has a n/a 1.6. Haven't seen or read a review of that powetrain in the Jogger, but I have seen video reviews of the Clio with it. Apparently doesn't feel like it has anywhere near 140bhp, and needs to be worked hard to make progress. So I wouldn't assume a Jogger so equipped to be more relaxing than the 1.0 TCE even though it may ultimately be quicker on paper.

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Metropolis.
No replacement for displacement unfortunately. At least without compromises elsewhere.
Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Dag Hammar

ORB, was the name of your acquaintance Marty McFly ?

Well spotted

Orb

Edited by _ORB_ on 17/03/2023 at 06:02

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - Engineer Andy

ORB, was the name of your acquaintance Marty McFly ?

Well spotted

Orb

Presumably the one you saw had a flux capacitor and a Mr Fusion add-on... :-)

Dacia Jogger - Bit of a surprise - badbusdriver
No replacement for displacement unfortunately. At least without compromises elsewhere.

Sure there is, sound engineering trumps all regardless of engine size. The problems we hear of surrounding small turbo engines, particularly the 1.0 Ecoboost, are not caused because the engine is small, they are caused by cost cutting.

Japanese manufacturers have been making ultra reliable small engines for donkeys years now, both n/a and forced induction.

And there has been plenty of unreliable big engines over the years.