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Car prices up / down - March plates - Warning

What are you predictions? There are March plates. Will it mean more cars on the second hand market? Or would car dealers have offered high trade in prices to secure a new car sale?

Or not relevant if people generally get leasing deals?

Car prices up / down - March plates - RT

I've seen a report somwhere that discounts are now back in the frame so either there's more new cars available or fewer people are buying new - probably a combination of the two.

Judging by Autotrader valuation tool, both my cars are still worth more than they were pre-Covid.

Car prices up / down - March plates - sammy1

Yes discounts are back for most dealers, hardly surprising given the retail prices as they are and the current economic climate.. Needless to say you will have a hard time getting one and you will get screwed as usual on your p.ex

Car prices up / down - March plates - movilogo

Don't know what is happening on used car market. The 1-2 yr old used car prices are still higher than when they were sold new (for the few models I'm tracking).

Many new cars still have 6-9 months waiting list. This means owners are holding on to their cars, which would have been in used car market otherwise. This keeps supply down while demand still stays. Due to fewer transactions, prices of cars going up.

Car prices up / down - March plates - Engineer Andy

I've seen a report somwhere that discounts are now back in the frame so either there's more new cars available or fewer people are buying new - probably a combination of the two.

Judging by Autotrader valuation tool, both my cars are still worth more than they were pre-Covid.

An average of a 30% bump in price will probably take a while to disappear without the 'help' of supplies (including part) getting back to near normal.

I suspect that with more and more people now relly feeling the pinch as inflation bites in all sectors and a likely recession (including house sale and price slump [which has already begun]), demand will lessen sufficiently to assist, plus the effect of the hefty interest rate rises will have on car loan and PCP deal take up.

My elderly dad just bough a new-ish car to replace his 'old' (still 2.5 years younger than my Mazda3) 08 Fiesta, paying 2.5x as much (even after trade-in) for his 20 plate new one (upper spec model) than the brand new (end of line showroom car) base model version.

A really daft idea, given it's going to be likely in use for 5 years, do about 1k - 2k a year (no long drives any more either) and will lose money hand over fist because he's bought it at the top of the market. The silly thing is he is terrible with gizmos and didn't want them, and regularly complains about the hard ride on his old car (and that had 50 profile tyres - the new one will likely be firmer riding).

Car prices up / down - March plates - pd

The strange thing is a recession (if we have one) doesn't necessarily mean lower used prices outside of the nearly new.

Because it may mean less new cars being sold it can mean a reduction in the flow of used. Furthermore it can mean people who would have previously bought new buy used instead. So you have a combination of less supply and higher demand.

The thing which will make a difference to the used market is a jump in oversupply in the new. At the moment manufacturers are still restricting supply whether deliberate or forced and being careful to match demand.

Car prices up / down - March plates - Engineer Andy

Perhaps, but eventually the manufacturers will have to up supply because they can't rely on such low volume over the medium to longer term - they would have to make big job cuts to balance the books, and might lead to many going under or being bought out as a result.

My dad saw this in the insurance industry 30 years ago and it decimated a once world-leading industry in the UK.

There a far more limited market for EVs, and because prices are essentially artificially high for ordinary cars, demand will only pick up if prices come down.

Eventually the chip shortage will end, and restrictions on travel / shipping are now far, far less than at the height of the pandemic.

I'd be more worried about a global slump of 1930s depression levels, given the credit bubble (personal but especially public) should've burst by now and homes in the West and China are vastly overvalued. Many such 'bad events' were often caused by inocuous things, even when many know it is coming. No-one wants to be remembered as the person who 'set it off'.

Lots of factors at work, some out of our control, some which are. Personally speaking, I would not buy a new car or much bigger / grander house at the moment if I wasn't awash with cash.

Car prices up / down - March plates - veloceman
Interesting as I been putting my car through WBAC. It’s gone up over £4k since November.
Car prices up / down - March plates - movilogo

Interesting that house prices coming down in general, but car prices not.

Car prices up / down - March plates - Engineer Andy

Interesting that house prices coming down in general, but car prices not.

I suspect that's because they've been significantly over-valued for a considerable time and because mortgage rates have risen far quicker and more harshly than those for PCP or general car loan deals.

Car prices up / down - March plates - daveyK_UK
Some manufacturers are ahead of the others in terms of parts, semiconductors, etc

For example Jaguar Land Rover remains with lots of issues and is struggling to clear a big backlog of orders

VW group is now turning around cars in 5 months or less

I don’t expect new prices to soften until 2024, any current manufacturer discounts are merely marketing gimmicks to hide increased finance rates.


In terms of the used market, with consumers holding onto older cars for longer, petrol car desirability has increased considerably as diesels have become hideously expensive to keep on the road.

I would love to see the official stats of cars being scraped diesel Vs petrol
Car prices up / down - March plates - Engineer Andy
Some manufacturers are ahead of the others in terms of parts, semiconductors, etc For example Jaguar Land Rover remains with lots of issues and is struggling to clear a big backlog of orders VW group is now turning around cars in 5 months or less I don’t expect new prices to soften until 2024, any current manufacturer discounts are merely marketing gimmicks to hide increased finance rates. In terms of the used market, with consumers holding onto older cars for longer, petrol car desirability has increased considerably as diesels have become hideously expensive to keep on the road. I would love to see the official stats of cars being scraped diesel Vs petrol

What's noticeable is that there are far fewer cars being bought and sold. Motorpoint used to mostly have an average stock level around the 6k - 8k mark nationwide, now around half that on their website.

I think things were already starting go that way from a year or so before the pandemic with the introduction of the new Euro 7 emissions rules and significantly bumped up 'standards' to achieve an NCAP (or equivalent outside of Europe) 'safety' rating, pushing many car manufacturers to reduce the number of models and variants they sell, particuarly at the lower-priced and smaller end of their ranges.

A lot of people aside from the very well-off and comfortable retirees have put off changing cars because they can see which way the proverbial economic winds are blowing. I know I certainly have.

Car prices up / down - March plates - daveyK_UK
My mate has a problem of sorts

He changed car every 3 years once the manufacturer warranty runs out

His Vauxhall combo life 7 seater 1.2 petrol is approaching 40k and 3 years this May

He wants to change it for a new 7 seater

It has to be a proper 7 seater not one of the SUVs with tiny seats in the boot

It has to be a petrol, he lives on a London terrace street with no charge option

So what’s the problem?

There are barely any new petrol proper 7 seaters available in the UK anymore

He could compromise with a Dacia Jogger but it’s not a proper 7 seater in the 3rd row, more a glorified estate

He could compromise with an SUV but similar to the Jogger they all have cramped 3rd row of seats

Vauxhall only sell the combo life in electric format, he would have another one but not electric


So he is now looking at a 3rd party warranty and keeping the combo life

Ford dealer has offered him an S Max brand new but it’s £43k!

VW dealer can get him a VW Caddy but won’t be ready until July and the small price of £27k

Interestingly the Ford dealer can’t get a Ford Tourneo Connect until November despite it being identical to the VW Caddy


Not a lot of choice and absolutely no value unless he opts for the Dacia







Edited by daveyK_UK on 04/03/2023 at 12:55

Car prices up / down - March plates - alan1302

Seems like his best course of action would simply keep what he has and run it outside of the warranty rather than getting something he does not really want.