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Used Estate - Graham992

We have about 4k+ for a used petrol estate and we've had a quick look at a few. Dacia Logan MCV 0.9, Focus , Astra, Kia and an older Avensis

I suppose they will all do a job as an estate but we can get a much newer Logan ( probably 2013 ) than any of the others ( more like 2008 ). Also the savings on car tax and petrol for around 5000 miles would be around £500+ per year

The dacia owners ( I suppose not a surprise ) all love them but the reviews are a lot different, poor ride, poor quality

Any opinions on the dilemma

Used Estate - Xileno

I would rate the views of owners above reviewers, the latter are generally looking out for different things and equate soft plastics as being quality. At this age you want reliability and low costs when things do wear out. Ford and Vauxhalls have generally been good in this area but in the case of the Ford there are doubts over the 1.0 engine's durability. You might be able to get a petrol Focus with one of the other engines, if so that would be my choice.

Used Estate - badbusdriver

I've just had a quick look on Autotrader. Setting a maximum price of £4.5k, up to 100k miles, petrol engine (up to 1.8), manual gearbox, no insurance write offs. Only one Logan MCV showing nationwide, a 2014 0.9 with 93k miles*.

Under those same criteria, there are a couple of 2013 Astra 1.6's, one with 87k, the other with 94k.

Ignoring the Logan MCV, youngest car under showing is a 2014 Skoda Fabia 1.2TSI (84PS) with 83k miles. Assuming this age of car would have the belt (rather than chain) drive, I'd be happy with that. The boot is smaller than the Logan MCV, but not by a huge amount (505 vs 573 litres). Next youngest is a Seat Ibiza with the same engine. Boot is a decent size for a small estate at 430 litres, but some way short of the Logan.

Youngest Focus is a 2009 1.6 with 75k miles. These are inherantly very reliable, but getting on, so check condition thoroughly.

Toyota's?, well there are a couple of 2010 Avensis 1.8's, and a couple of the previous shape. Same as above re reliability and condition.

There are a handful of Volvo V50's. These are the same as the Focus under the skin and equally reliable. The boot isn't the biggest though.

There are a few Korean options, a couple of 2011 Ceed's, a 2008 Ceed and a 2008 i30. Mechanically sturdy, but check the older ones for corrosion underneath.

With a relatively small budget, the current market may not give you a wide selection of cars to choose from. Especially so for estates which do tend to work harder for a living, and being a practical choice, owners are more likely to hang on to them until they are no longer viable. So best thing to do is just to check what there is in your area, make good use of the MOT history check (which will give an indication of how well or otherwise a car has been looked after).

*Our resident ex motor trader SLO, doesn't think highly of the 0.9 TCE engine as found in various Dacia's and Renault's. The old n/a 1.2 was pretty reliable, as was the 1.5DCI.

Used Estate - Big John

Ignoring the Logan MCV, youngest car under showing is a 2014 Skoda Fabia 1.2TSI (84PS) with 83k miles. Assuming this age of car would have the belt (rather than chain) drive, I'd be happy with that. The boot is smaller than the Logan MCV, but not by a huge amount (505 vs 573 litres). Next youngest is a Seat Ibiza with the same engine. Boot is a decent size for a small estate at 430 litres, but some way short of the Logan.

I think the 2014 Fabia 84ps still had the 8 valve EA111 cam chain engine. Usually with the 1.2 84/85ps or 105pstsi is the old engine - 90 ps / 100ps is the newer EA211 cam belt engine. Saying that by 2014 that engine was sorted.

With the 1.2tsi VAG engine - lift the bonnet, if you see an oil filter high up on the engine above the alternator then it's the older EA111 engine.

Edited by Big John on 08/04/2022 at 23:30

Used Estate - SLO76
The Dacia is ok but I’d stick with the older 1.2 petrol over the 0.9TCe motor which has a poor reputation for longevity. The 1.2 is slow but is well tried and tested and has no real vices beyond timing belt failure if not done on schedule.

A Ford Focus with the robust 1.6 petrol designed by Yamaha makes for a worthy small estate car too. The Vauxhall Astra 1.6 petrol is hardy and good value too. The Honda Accord, Toyota Avensis and Mazda 6 all offer reliability and space in petrol form also so I’d include these to the shortlist. The Kia Cee’d and Hyundai i30 are both good news too but I’d get underneath to look for serious rot as they rust badly underneath.

Edited by SLO76 on 09/04/2022 at 12:17

Used Estate - JonestHon

I drive one of these, currently on 130k

www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202203113461256?a...e

Surprisingly comfy ride, seems to swallow pot holes without sending judders into the cabin.

Wide and deep boot with a low loading lip.

The gear shift is buttery smooth and so far only one issue since we got her in 2019.

The top shock mount screw got loosen which made for some knocks over rough surfaces, tighten this and applied some lock tight and all is good with the world.

Edited by JonestHon on 09/04/2022 at 14:39

Used Estate - Xileno

Sounds like you got a good workhorse there, if you keep it correctly maintained it should go on for a lot longer yet. Toyotas seem popular on the taxi ranks around here (West Wilts), I'm sure for good reason.

Used Estate - Graham992

Cheers. I had a avensis saloon many moons ago and yes it wasn't the most exciting car but 100% reliable and smooth

So I guess you would prefer that over a focus ?

Used Estate - Xileno

I've never owned an Avensis, it will probably trump the Focus for reliability but not by much. The Focus will be well up there and probably cheaper to service and repair when something does need fixing. This is providing you avoid the 1.0 engine. In the end I would go with the car with the best history and overall condition sometimes it can come down to one is a colour you prefer.

Used Estate - Alby Back
I’d think either would do the job. The Focus might be slightly nicer to drive but the Avensis might be slightly more reliable. Not much in it in truth.
I think I’d have a Focus, but it’s really more about what is the best car available on the day.
Used Estate - Heidfirst

Cheers. I had a avensis saloon many moons ago and yes it wasn't the most exciting car but 100% reliable and smooth

So I guess you would prefer that over a focus ?

The Avensis will be bigger & more solid feeling. An Auris estate would be more comparable to a Focus estate imo.

If you want an engaging/sporting drive then the Focus will handle better.

Edited by Heidfirst on 10/04/2022 at 15:42

Used Estate - Graham992

Thanks for all the comments .Been to see a few and Ive narrowed my long list of possibilities for under £3k to

Honda Accord

VW Passat

Kia Ceed

Ford Mondeo

VW Golf

Ford Focus

Hyundai I30

Skoda Octavia

So a lot out there... just need to find a good petrol one once Ive done my research on reliability, maintenance and longevity