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Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - joegrundy

This will seem like 'teaching Granny to suck eggs' to many back-roomers, but I thought it was worth mentioning. It doesn't get the attention changing oil and filter does (and is not so essential) but it's worth doing for a few quid.

I changed the filter on my last car, an 07 Lacetti. £12 from a local factor, took about 15 mins and required a screwdriver. Was black, stuffed with leaves, dust and general detritus.Did the same on DIL's Lacetti (£7 on ebay) took 10 mins. also filthy. Air flow vastly improved, not to mention the quality of air.

Just did same on 'new' car, 2009 i10. Cost £10 ebay. No tools required, took 5 minutes. Old one disgusting, black, leaves, dust etc. Air flow much much better and smells fresher.

I suppose if you really wanted to you could put a few drops of scented oil on the new filter to make the car smell nice.

Just a thought.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - John F

The UK is not a dusty country. I have never bought a new air intake or pollen filter. They only need cleaning every few years or 40,000 miles with a stiff small paint brush, separating the pleats. Indeed, I have only ever cleaned the Focus pollen filter once in 150,000 miles. I have found they can be washed too, a bit like the filter on our house vacuum cleaner. The ones on the A8 are circular, so they can be rotated to present a different part of the circumference to the main air flow.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - joegrundy

I respect your view. My experience differs, and for the sake of a few quid I think that it's worth it. It's not only dust, it's leaves and general detritus. Try a new filter on the Focus and report back.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Doc

My experience is that they get dirty very quickly here in SE London.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Bolt

My experience is that they get dirty very quickly here in SE London.

Yup they sure do, air around London is very dirty and still worse when close to a duel carriageway/ Motorway.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Metropolis.
Depends if they get wet in use, when mould sets in it can be a health hazard. My discovery 2 didnt even have one, just some sponge above the windscreen cowel that had long since disappeared.
Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Ted66

Bought one to replace the one in my partners car. Old one looked good as new so stuck it in the shed until next year .

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Bromptonaut

Intake filters for the engine are one thing pollen filters are another.

Last time I looked at an engine filter, I think in my early IDI Berlingo, it had a few leaves and insects in it and looked as if could be brushed out and reused. Whether the paper element was also clogging with finer dust I don't know.

The cabin air filter is what it's other name says; a filter for pollen and other fine dust. It's purpose is to improve cabin air quality. Whilst the UK may not be dusty like a hot/dry place there's plenty of urban dust from construction, industry etc. Pollens are an allergen for a significant proportion of the population. I've looked at the one in the Fabia after a few months and it was already turning black. I'd imagine they clog over a couple of years to the point of reducing airflow.

Happy to have them replaced at service.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - bathtub tom

I've noticed you can pay a lot for these. Some stockists will show several for the same car with a large price range. Reading the small print shows they vary as to the size of particle they filter, the smaller the particle, the more you pay. I wonder if the more expensive ones clog up quicker?

Gone are the days when a Maxi had 'eyeball' vents at each end of the dashboard that were connected by a tube to the front of the car. No fan just ram. You could get all sorts of insects aimed at your face. I fitted a pair of SWMBO's old stockings over the entrance.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - paul 1963

Good on you Joe, a worthwhile job, as you say cheap and easy to do.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - catsdad

Cheap and easy to DIY but some dealers charge a lot to do it. Honda price to supply and fit pollen and air filters on the Civic is £109. Cox parts sell the OEM filters for under £50. To charge £59 labour on top is unreasonable. The first time it took me 10-15 minutes to do both but once you know the ropes it’s a 5 minute job. And when I did it I reconnected the glovebox lid damper that the Honda mechanic had left undone when he did it under the service plan.

I now have a Golf and looking in You Tube it’s similarly easy.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - brum

If it was a carbon activated filter, they already are black (grey/black) when new

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - madf

The UK is not a dusty country. I have never bought a new air intake or pollen filter.

I drive a lot on rural roads on beekeeping.

In summer a mix of dust (dried mud) horse/cow manure, old leaves and twigs litter the side roads. Highly dusty in dry weather. (As is rural East Anglia in wind when the soil blows off the fields.)

I change pollen filters every two years.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - John F

The more I think about pollen filters, the more I realise what a con they are, considering the tiny amount of time spent in a car. This is an extract from Halford's absurd blurb....

What’s more, if you live in an urban or industrial area, without proper filtration you could be exposed to harmful toxic gases and air pollution that can cause headaches, nausea and fatigue. As professionals, we recommend that you replace your pollen air filter once a year - or every 10-15,000 miles. However, if where you park is surrounded by trees, or if you live in a heavily polluted area, it’s advised that you replace it more frequently.

.....looks as though I've saved myself the cost of at least sixteen pollen filters just for the family Focus!

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Bromptonaut

The more I think about pollen filters, the more I realise what a con they are, considering the tiny amount of time spent in a car. This is an extract from Halford's absurd blurb....

The toxic gases bit looks pretty absurd but as I said upthread pollen is a serious allergen and is better off outside the car than in. Whilst there are many days I either don't use the car or only travel locally there are others, going on holiday for example, where I'm in it all day for a couple of days.

People who use a car for work will be in there for a chunk of most working days.

I'd also assume that dust trapped in the filter isn't clogging up the fan etc.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Engineer Andy

The more I think about pollen filters, the more I realise what a con they are, considering the tiny amount of time spent in a car. This is an extract from Halford's absurd blurb....

The toxic gases bit looks pretty absurd but as I said upthread pollen is a serious allergen and is better off outside the car than in. Whilst there are many days I either don't use the car or only travel locally there are others, going on holiday for example, where I'm in it all day for a couple of days.

People who use a car for work will be in there for a chunk of most working days.

I'd also assume that dust trapped in the filter isn't clogging up the fan etc.

Indeed - as part of my (now former) career, I specified filtration systems for air handling plant of various sizes for buildings, and they won't filter out gases. Small particles of dust, dirt and pollen, yes, depending upon the grade/how fine the filter is. Vehicles will have similar filters.

More fancy systems akin to CATs are possible, but only in specialist industries and vehicles that need robust, long term fresh air such as the military. Certain equipment such as gas masks can proect against certain chemicals and gases, but only for quite brief periods before needing replacement and decontaimination.

It's the reason why modern cars have an air recirculation system, to avoid sucking in exhause fumes and other external pollutants and despositing into the cabin, as well as helping heat or cool it more rapidly when needed.

It is also why I make sure I vetnialte my car well when driving in less built-up areas with clearer roads, so the air inside the cabin is as good as I can get it when I have to switch to recirculated air in heavy traffic / in town.

If I recall, my car's maintenance schedule has my cabin filter being replaced every other service.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - bathtub tom
Indeed - as part of my (now former) career, I specified filtration systems for air handling plant of various sizes for buildings, and they won't filter out gases. Small particles of dust, dirt and pollen, yes, depending upon the grade/how fine the filter is. Vehicles will have similar filters.

I once worked in a building which had (IIRC) electrostatic filtering. Put in when the building was built, it was an enormous unit, with very secure entry. It would emit frequent, loud cracks and there was a smell of ozone. Are such systems still used?

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Engineer Andy
Indeed - as part of my (now former) career, I specified filtration systems for air handling plant of various sizes for buildings, and they won't filter out gases. Small particles of dust, dirt and pollen, yes, depending upon the grade/how fine the filter is. Vehicles will have similar filters.

I once worked in a building which had (IIRC) electrostatic filtering. Put in when the building was built, it was an enormous unit, with very secure entry. It would emit frequent, loud cracks and there was a smell of ozone. Are such systems still used?

I didn't come across that type of system during my career, though that doesn't mean they don't still exist today. Admitedly the overwhelming majority of my work involved air intake filtering - i.e. fresh air to buildings, labs, etc, rather than exhaust filtration of nasties from industrial and medical processes and equipment.

At a local industrial complex, they work with precious metals on a variety of processes, and they have 'ordinary' filters on the exhast ducts to trap those particles, wherby when full, the filter gets burned and the metals recovered, because the amount really adds up over time.

Other residual chemicals may not (all) be filtered, as I can often smell certain chemical smells (e.g. [I think] acetate) from the chimneys when the wind is occasionally blowing in the direction of my housing development.

Modern filtration via panel or bag filters can get down to very tiny particles, though obviously not to the atomic scale. I suspect some older methods may be still suited to certain industrial processes, but higher grade physical filters may now be used more often because they are cheaper over the long run.

My home vacuum cleaner has about 5 filters, including on the exhaust, which is of the hepa type. Cleaning and eventually replacing them is certainly not an easy or cheap job for me! I'd rather have the old style filter and bag combined.

I also should really check my car's cabin (pollen) filter to see whether it does get changed as per the maintenance schedule, as I'd bet good money that it's that sort of thing that some dealers will scrimp on to get more profits.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Metropolis.
A Lexus IS (2012 MY) in the family has a pollutant sensor and will automatically revert to recirculate if levels get too high, you can alter the sensitivity by pressing and holding the recirculate button till the central display pops up with about 7 levels.

And JLR have come out with this, probably behind the game on it, pretty sure the Japanese domestic market has had these ionising systems on posh Toyotas since early 90s

www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/technology-news/jaguar-...d
Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - sammy1

A Lexus IS (2012 MY) in the family has a pollutant sensor and will automatically revert to recirculate if levels get too high, you can alter the sensitivity by pressing and holding the recirculate button till the central display pops up with about 7 levels.

Where are cars heading with these sort of systems. Do you have to enter the car in some sort of hazmat suit so as not to contaminate the inside!

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Bilboman

Cars are becoming completely insulated, coc***ed environments these days! There is always a trade-off, of course... Thanks to sound deadening and the tendency to drive with music on full and outside noise reduced to close to zero, drivers don't hear things these days. As a learner driver I was taught to keep the window open a crack to listen out for vehicles, pedestrians, horns, sirens, air brakes of HGVs and buses, the list was endless!
It's great to keep pollen and microscopic particles of I'd-dread-to-know-what outside the cabin, but I long for the good old "air-blending heater" that British and Swedish car makers used to do so well. Cool air to the face and warm to the feet at the same time. Almost impossible on mainstream cars these days.
And then there's visibility! Privacy/VIP/gangsta tinted glass abounds, and it turns the ever popular SUVs into large opaque obstacles. It's impossible to see through one car to the next, so no advance warning of brake lights or indicators, and at junctions you can't tell if the driver of an emerging car is looking in your direction or has seen you. Tooting the horn as a warning is often taken as an affront - or rather, it would be if the driver could actually hear you!

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - brum

And yet, look inside any modern car thats not been valeted for a while (a week) and the dash, clocks, upholstery, carpets will be be covered in dust, grime and all sorts of detrius. Dead skin, ugh.

I wonder how we managed without pollen filters.

My 1985 Passat had two centre vents that weren't heated. Just open to allow outside air direct to your face. You could have cold air to the face and warm to the feet .If they had been closed a while, when you opened them you got blasted with all manner of stuff for a second or so. The odd bee occasionally.

I note we were a lot healthier back then.

Do they fit pollen filters to cabriolets?

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Engineer Andy

And yet, look inside any modern car thats not been valeted for a while (a week) and the dash, clocks, upholstery, carpets will be be covered in dust, grime and all sorts of detrius. Dead skin, ugh.

I wonder how we managed without pollen filters.

My 1985 Passat had two centre vents that weren't heated. Just open to allow outside air direct to your face. You could have cold air to the face and warm to the feet .If they had been closed a while, when you opened them you got blasted with all manner of stuff for a second or so. The odd bee occasionally.

I note we were a lot healthier back then.

Do they fit pollen filters to cabriolets?

I would say that there are a good number of factors that have driven (pardon the pun) the inclusion of cabin filters, etc:

More industrial farming, especially using crops like oil seed r@pe, etc;

Way more cars and vans compared to the 1980s, and especially diesels. Not helped by (pandemic period aside) ever increasing congestion, not just in cities but in smaller towns and rural areas, as people live further away from their workplace, friends/families and shopping areas;

Similarly with air travel;

An increasingly sedentary, office-bound workforce who exercises a lot less, even worse in the young, who are now getting more and more (and stronger) allergies to everything under the sun. Probably not helped by poor diet or heavily processed, sugary foods/drinks.

Despite me moving from a larger, more urban town to a smaller, rural one much further from big cities, my asthma is probably now worse (it's not that bad compared to many others) than beforehand (including when driving/going by public transport into North London to work), having rarely used my reliever inhailors since childhood (growing out of it), but now having to use them during certain weather conditions and/or when certain crops are growing in the area.

I suspect that the local industrial plant plays a role too, but my home is not down wind for the vast majority of the time.

I notice when I'm on holiday in the fresh air of the South West that my asthma essentially clears up.

Any - Cabin (pollen) air filters - Terry W

We live in an increasingly litigious society. Numerous minor "irritants" which a few decades ago would not even have registered as issues - eg: secondary smoking, volatiles (paint, aerosols etc), H&S rules etc are now controlled or baneed.

Some of these are demonstrably dangerous in large quantities and can have an impact with short exposures. In the past, common sense prevailed - obviously a not so common attribute.

Pollen filters are part of this. It is unquestionably preferable to have an effective filter of air entering the cabin.

Failing to change it means that (at best) it will be less able to process air efficiently - I suspect a filter partially blocked is still capable of filtering, albeit at lower volumes.

If you don't want to spend a few ££ changing the pollen filter that is a personal choice. Statistically your health may suffer - but probably a very small additional risk!