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any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

A really simple question. Has anyone ever had a puncture and successfully fixed it by the side of the road with the puncture repair kit provided instead of a spare wheel? I don't mean fixed it with the help of the AA/RAC, but actually done it yourself and carried on?

Edited by Benet on 27/06/2020 at 19:57

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Theophilus

Good question - I'll be interested in the replies.

The first thing I do when I buy a car (if it doesn't already have a spare) is to buy at least a space-saver.

Incidentally the price of a spare, jack & wheelbrace for my Verso (when they were going through a cost-cutting phase & not supplying a spare) sourced from my Toyota dealer was £135 - much cheaper than online "deals"

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

As you may have seen from another thread, I have just bought a Verso too. We looked at 4 Verso's in all. The first had a spacesaver but we couldn't agree on a price with the seller. And then none of the others had the spare. I would have thought the cost of providing a compressor etc can't be much less than the wheel...

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - dan86

A really simple question. Has anyone ever had a puncture and successfully fixed it by the side of the road with the puncture repair kit provided instead of a spare wheel? I don't mean fixed it with the help of the AA/RAC, but actually done it yourself and carried on?

I've never had the pleasure of using one but have had the displeasure of cleaning a wheel a customer had used it on, its horrible stuff.

When we bought the quashqai first thing I did was get a spare wheel and Jack ect as the gunk is only fit for small punctures no good if you have a gash in the sidewall.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Bromptonaut

Like other posters I intend never to put myself in a position where I need to answer this question. Both current cars have at least a space saver. The Berlingo's is a steel wheel with same tyre size as the four alloys but is branded as a space saver with speed/duration restriction notice on it.

My Roomster was being sold with a pump/goo combo and I successfully negotiated a full size spare as a condition of the sale.

I suspect that goo will probably sort out a slow puncture at least for long enough to get you home. Think the sort of puncture that's repairable. Clearly there are plenty of 'quick' punctures and other forms of tyre damage there's not a hope in hell of repairing with goo or any other technique.

I've seen enough cars left at the roadside on 3 wheels + jack to draw a conclusion that tyre damage you'd drive away from with a spare has caused a stranding or significant disruption.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - badbusdriver

Why the question?, in a previous thread you appear to be saying that you wouldn't buy a car without a spare wheel.

I am put off the Zafira by the fact that I insist on a spare wheel and they don't even provide space for one

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Bromptonaut

Why the question?, in a previous thread you appear to be saying that you wouldn't buy a car without a spare wheel.

It would be quite reasonable to ask a question by way of a sense check as to whether one's thoughts on goo v spare were (still) reasonable.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 28/06/2020 at 10:13

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Mr D Og

I have been driving cars for over 55 years and have pondered how many punctures I've had in that time. Thinking back I can only recollect 4 such occurrences. That does not mean there were not more, rather I can't remember them! All I can say is they are extremely rare in my experience.

I am not as fit as I used to be and in the event of getting a puncture don't think I'd be physically up to changing a wheel. I might even struggle to use the repair kit provided with my car so I will use the AA/RAC type rescue organisations to assist me on my way. Not having a spare wheel or space saver does not therefore concern me.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Andrew-T

I am not as fit as I used to be and in the event of getting a puncture don't think I'd be physically up to changing a wheel.

Of course that is assuming that you can release the bolts/nuts securing it, and that the car has fetched up in a place where it can be safely jacked - all with the equipment supplied. I loosen/retighten my alloys once a year (if I remember) and am surprised at how quickly the bolts can become difficult.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

'it would be quite reasonable to ask the question...'

Yes indeed so. I wanted to test my prejudices

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Avant

In answer to Benet's question, one would hope that someone must have tested these contraptions before purtting them in the market.....but I say that in hope rather than confidence.

I still have yet to meet anyone who can answer the simple question 'What do you do if you have no spare wheel, and an irreparable gash in a tyre caused by a pothole in a remote country lane where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Engineer Andy

In answer to Benet's question, one would hope that someone must have tested these contraptions before purtting them in the market.....but I say that in hope rather than confidence.

I still have yet to meet anyone who can answer the simple question 'What do you do if you have no spare wheel, and an irreparable gash in a tyre caused by a pothole in a remote country lane where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

Exactly - and especially at night or on Sundays when most/all tyre fitters are closed. If I recall correctly, I believe that HJ himself did not rate the tubes of goo much precisely because of those failings. Not sure if it was in a general news item or (more likely) one of his Agony Columns here or in the Telegraph.

I wonder if the same can be said of 'runflat' tyres if you get a big hole in the sidewall? I'd personally never feel comfortable driving a car that didn't have some kind of spare wheel/tyre arrangement.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

I am not as fit as I used to be and in the event of getting a puncture don't think I'd be physically up to changing a wheel. I might even struggle to use the repair kit provided with my car so I will use the AA/RAC type rescue organisations to assist me on my way. Not having a spare wheel or space saver does not therefore concern me.

2 issues with this.

Last time I had to call the RAC I had to wait almost 5 hours for them to attend. This was not at peak time, it was Sunday lunch.

If you do not have a spare what are your rescue organisation going to fit or do you expect them to squirt the glue in for you. If the tyre is damaged beyond repair where do you expect them to get it replaced especially if its outside normal working times.

Even if you cannot change the wheel yourself its still better having a spare. My wife would be unable to swap a wheel but hopefully a friendly person, officer of the law or even the RAC would help and get her on her way using the spare in the boot.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - RT

I still have yet to meet anyone who can answer the simple question 'What do you do if you have no spare wheel, and an irreparable gash in a tyre caused by a pothole in a remote country lane where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

You call your breakdown service - depending on their T&C they'll take you and the wheel to a tyre retailer - if their T&C won't do that or you don't have breakdown cover, you call a mobile tyre fitter.

That's why I won't contemplate the idea of no spare wheel on any of our family cars.

I don't like space-savers, much prefer a regular road wheel, but a space-saver is infinitewly better than a can of gunk, IMO.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

I still have yet to meet anyone who can answer the simple question 'What do you do if you have no spare wheel, and an irreparable gash in a tyre caused by a pothole in a remote country lane where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

You call your breakdown service - depending on their T&C they'll take you and the wheel to a tyre retailer - if their T&C won't do that or you don't have breakdown cover, you call a mobile tyre fitter.

See my previous post, a 5 hour wait is not a substitute for carrying a spare.

And its fine being taken to a tyre retailer to sort it out in normal working hours but what happens if its the middle of the night, are they going to knock someone up for you?

I know it offends some people but there is no way I would contemplate a long trip with no spare. Even locally its preferable to be able to sort it yourself quickly. But I think that is the problem nowadays, no one is prepared to help themselves, they expect someone to come along at a moments notice and sort it for you. In the real world that does not happen.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - RT

I still have yet to meet anyone who can answer the simple question 'What do you do if you have no spare wheel, and an irreparable gash in a tyre caused by a pothole in a remote country lane where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

You call your breakdown service - depending on their T&C they'll take you and the wheel to a tyre retailer - if their T&C won't do that or you don't have breakdown cover, you call a mobile tyre fitter.

See my previous post, a 5 hour wait is not a substitute for carrying a spare.

And its fine being taken to a tyre retailer to sort it out in normal working hours but what happens if its the middle of the night, are they going to knock someone up for you?

I know it offends some people but there is no way I would contemplate a long trip with no spare. Even locally its preferable to be able to sort it yourself quickly. But I think that is the problem nowadays, no one is prepared to help themselves, they expect someone to come along at a moments notice and sort it for you. In the real world that does not happen.

I agree - but by selectively quoting only part of my post you make it look like I disagree

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Will deBeast

I've had two punctures in the last 5 years.

The first completely destroyed the tyre. Fortunately I had a spare.

The second was a slow puncture in a tyre that was only a month old. I used the inflator from the tyre repair kit. Decided it was slow enough to not use the gunk. The puncture was close to the shoulder. One tyre place refused to repair. The second said they could do it. It has been fine (3 years and counting).

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

A couple of years ago I had a front wheel puncture in my A8. I didn't mend it by the side of the road, but as it was just a small nail near the centre of the tread I thought I'd try one of those cheap kits where you enlarge the hole and force in a plug. It was surprisingly successful, lasting until I needed new tyres all round recently. I took the precaution of moving the repaired tyre from the front to the back, because any sudden deflation at speed would be easier to control.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

Sun 28 Jun 2020 13:08

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

A couple of years ago I had a front wheel puncture in my A8.

What did you do by the side of the road? How did you get home?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

A couple of years ago I had a front wheel puncture in my A8.

What did you do by the side of the road? How did you get home?

I changed the wheel - with some difficulty. The wheels are big and heavy, as is the front of the car - and I'm not as young as I was! I would never own a car without a spare wheel. I was only a few yards from home - it had gone down overnight and being in a dark garage I hadn't noticed before I drove off, but almost immediately felt the steering wasn't right. Thankfully only an easily repaired puncture!

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Engineer Andy

A couple of years ago I had a front wheel puncture in my A8. I didn't mend it by the side of the road, but as it was just a small nail near the centre of the tread I thought I'd try one of those cheap kits where you enlarge the hole and force in a plug. It was surprisingly successful, lasting until I needed new tyres all round recently. I took the precaution of moving the repaired tyre from the front to the back, because any sudden deflation at speed would be easier to control.

One handy thing I often do on making an important long journey on a weekend or late at night travelling in a more remote area (e.g. going or on holiday in the West Country) is make a note of the local tyre fitters and car repair shops in case I need to use them.

I was lucky enough to make use of such a local garage near my parents' home (when visiting) when a nail in the block of my previous car's tyre caused a slow leak. He was available and I got there ok and had a plug fitted, which was still ok two years later when I PXed the car for my current one. Cost me £10 if I recall, done in a few minutes.

Always useful to know which places are likely to be open or services (tow trucks etc) available out-of-hours if the breakdown firms are not so hot on 'low priority callouts. I must admit than they are good sometimes - my elderly parent's Fiesta suffered a battery failure late at night last winter when out and about, and they came out quickly to get them going and home again.

One thing I may now invest in is a good quality torque wrench and make sure I know the setting needed for my car's wheels. Useful in a tight spot.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Andrew-T

<< One thing I may now invest in is a good quality torque wrench and make sure I know the setting needed for my car's wheels. Useful in a tight spot. >>

The setting you need is the amount of force you can apply with your socket wrench - a strong pull without excessive effort - knowing that you can apply equal force, or a bit more, if the situation requires. That's what I have always done, without dire consequences. But the bolts need checking annually to detect seizing before it goes too far.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Engineer Andy

<< One thing I may now invest in is a good quality torque wrench and make sure I know the setting needed for my car's wheels. Useful in a tight spot. >>

The setting you need is the amount of force you can apply with your socket wrench - a strong pull without excessive effort - knowing that you can apply equal force, or a bit more, if the situation requires. That's what I have always done, without dire consequences. But the bolts need checking annually to detect seizing before it goes too far.

The issue for me is a) I'm not exactly known for my upper body strength and b) never have taken off or put on a car wheel in my life. I've sort-of knwon the drill, but just never had to put it into practice...yet (hopefully not tempting fate here).

I did come across a good few useful 'how to' videos of Aussie YT car expert (and engineer) John Cadogan on wheel fitting and the using (and the effects of on tightening wheel nuts) anti-seize on wheel nuts.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - mcb100
I can’t help thinking that the now compulsory fitment of TPMS has lessened the need for a spare. As soon as a loss in pressure is detected, it’s flagged. So much less chance of driving on an under inflated (and more damage susceptible tyre). It’s easily noticeable how few cars are now seen at the side of the road on a flat.
We’ve two cars in the household, one with a full sized spare, one with a (probably expired) repair kit. I’ve no qualms about driving either, given that I’d probably call the AA to either car.
any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Andrew-T
I can’t help thinking that the now compulsory fitment of TPMS has lessened the need for a spare. As soon as a loss in pressure is detected, it’s flagged.

Yes, of course. But as punctures are pretty rare, might there be a chance that your TPMS is no longer functioning by then ?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - mcb100
Seeing as the majority of TPMS systems work via ABS sensors, and that seems to continue to monitor things for years on end (or it flags up a fault), not a worry for me. Plus, obvious, regular routine pressure checks.
any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Will deBeast
I can’t help thinking that the now compulsory fitment of TPMS has lessened the need for a spare....

I suspect you're right.

My MX-5 doesn't have TPMS.

My first indication of a problem was that when I accelerated, the car veered slightly to the right. And when I braked, it veered slightly left.

Rear puncture. It was down to about 20 psi (from 29).

I suspect that in a FWD drive car I might not have felt it.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Avant

Can I narrow the question down?

...."where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

"You call your breakdown service"

?????

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - RT

Can I narrow the question down?

...."where there is no mobile reception, so you can't summon help?'

"You call your breakdown service"

?????

Just like the days before mobile phones, you have to walk to the nearest phone - in the olden days cars didn't conveniently break down by a phone box.

That's why a spare wheel is essential, IMO, even if it's just a space-saver.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Andrew-T

<< Just like the days before mobile phones, you have to walk to the nearest phone - in the old days cars didn't conveniently break down by a phone box. >>

These days that probably means knocking on the nearest front door.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

Just like the days before mobile phones, you have to walk to the nearest phone

When we visit Scotland I wonder how many phone boxes there are in areas where there is no mobile reception. Could be a walk of possibly 30 or miles between settlements in the more remote areas.

Seems like a brilliant idea.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - bathtub tom

Don't the breakdown services carry a sort of universal emergency spare, presumably with some sort of adaptor plate for 4-5 studs and different PCDs?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

Don't the breakdown services carry a sort of universal emergency spare, presumably with some sort of adaptor plate for 4-5 studs and different PCDs?

I have heard of these before but how can they be universal. OK, they may have adaptors but what about the rolling circumference, they can vary greatly between a small car and a large car.

And what happens if they have already used it on another car that day, how many do they carry?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - mcb100
Pretty sure most (if not all) AA vans have a fold out recovery dolly that will do a front lift. I know that won’t move everything, but most stuff being FWD now it’ll get cars moved to a garage or safe location.
any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

Don't the breakdown services carry a sort of universal emergency spare, presumably with some sort of adaptor plate for 4-5 studs and different PCDs?

I have heard of these before but how can they be universal. OK, they may have adaptors but what about the rolling circumference, they can vary greatly between a small car and a large car.

And what happens if they have already used it on another car that day, how many do they carry?

Is this progress?? When throughout motoring history till around 2010 every one had their own spare wheel and could do it themselves. No wonder the waiting for a recover service is long!?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - gordonbennet

I tried one of those Halfords aerosol jobbies as an experiment with a slow puncture that wasn't an issue as new tyres were waiting to be fitted, never made a scrap of difference to the rate of deflation.

Another one here who is not going out a reasonable distance without a spare, even if its a spacesaver, my daily commutes i wouldn't mind because i could call SWMBO to bring a winter/summer wheel if necessary, but wouldn't contemplate a distance journey without a proper spare.

I fit my own wheels and wheelnuts with lubing just enough to keep corrosion of the threads and alloy/steel corrosion at bay (so they come away from the hubs with ease), never yet had a wheel come unexpectedly loose after hundreds of thousands of car miles, the only lorry wheels that came loose over several million miles where those tapered nuts fitted without any lube at all, so much for the no lube theory.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Cris_on_the_gas

Never used the kits supplied with car but have used a Stop and Go plugger on both car and motorcycle successfully. Both time repair was carried successfully and able to continue journey. I got the motorcycle tyre changed immediately, left the car until tyre had worn out.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - FoxyJukebox

Al these are wonderful answers, but -as expected-not one person has anything good to say about "gunge kits/repairs"--and I'm not sure if anyone here has had a successful self-repair either, except the splendid self repair stories using a plug ?

Edited by Dogfuzz on 29/06/2020 at 13:00

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - madf

I have a 2012 Honda Jazz fitted with a puncture repair kit.

In the "Beast from the East" winter I travelled down to Stoneligh Warwickshire to a Bee exhibition. I parked in an old covered parking site and came back to my car to find a 10cm sidewall gash fro a piece of steel and no chance of a sealant repair.

Fortunately I had bought a spare wheel and emergency tyre (£30 unused ex Rover 25), fitted it a and drove home at 50mph..)

(I carry a proper wheel brace, gloves ,cloths and a piece of wood to level ground for jack in case of mud..The latter worked welll in the snow)

But then I am an old style motorist brought up in teh days when cars and tyres were unreliable...

Alternative was a 3 hour wait and £150 bill..

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Senexdriver

Unless I’ve missed something, nowhere in any of these answers does it mention the effect on the tyre of using goo to fix a puncture. It was probably from an authoritative source such as down the pub one Friday night, but I have always understood that the goo damages the tyre to the extent that once you’ve used it, the tyre is no good and has to be replaced. I’m starting to think I must have imagined it.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Engineer Andy

Al these are wonderful answers, but -as expected-not one person has anything good to say about "gunge kits/repairs"--and I'm not sure if anyone here has had a successful self-repair either, except the splendid self repair stories using a plug ?

Why not slash your own car's tyres in various places and test out a kit. The let us all know how 'splendid' a job it does. :-)

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

except the splendid self repair stories using a plug

I have read many good reports about the repairs you make with a rubberised string material and special tool but they have mostly been on motorcycles and the adverts I have seen all state its for a get you home repair only.

But I have never read any comments regarding what the tyre shop say when you take the self plugged tyre in for a permanent repair. Will they do anything or just say "sorry mate, cannot do anything now".

Best just to carry a spare (even a spacesaver is better than nothing) and get home safely.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - galileo

except the splendid self repair stories using a plug

I have read many good reports about the repairs you make with a rubberised string material and special tool but they have mostly been on motorcycles and the adverts I have seen all state its for a get you home repair only.

But I have never read any comments regarding what the tyre shop say when you take the self plugged tyre in for a permanent repair. Will they do anything or just say "sorry mate, cannot do anything now".

Best just to carry a spare (even a spacesaver is better than nothing) and get home safely.

I seem to remember that in the 1960s the plug repairs were acceptable but at some date were declared unsuitable and garages had to take tyres off and vulcanise an internal patch instead of 'plugging a puncture'.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - daveyjp

We have averaged about one puncture a year over the last 7-8 years. Two in a few weeks at the back end of 2019!

All but two have been relatively simple to sort as the tyre could be pumped up and the car driven to the tyre fitter.

One needed the spare as it was losing air quickly when I tried to reinflate. I was 200 miles from home so it needed fixing, the other was a slashed tyre wall after I ran over something. No way a can of gunk would have worked on either of those.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Mr D Og

It's undoubtedly reassuring to know that if you get a flat tyre you can continue your journey with only the minor delay that a quick wheel change will incur. But according to one well known tyre manufacturer drivers who think that could be labouring under a misconception. The tyre maker claims that only 70% of spare tyres are fitted when required. This is because many are under-inflated, otherwise not fit to be used or the driver can't get the wheel off to change the tyre!

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Brit_in_Germany

No-one seems to have mentioned run-flats. They seem to be a better solution than the space-saver.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

No-one seems to have mentioned run-flats. They seem to be a better solution than the space-saver.

A chap at work had a BMW with run flats and did exactly that. He continued his drive to an appointment in the belief everything was fine. When his meeting was finished he went along to the nearest ATS tyres (where the company had the account) only to be told they did not repair run flats, did not stock Run Flats and refused to fit a non run flat because it was not acceptable to mix tyres on cars, but they did try inflating the tyre. They suggested the BMW dealer who was close by but they did not stock tyres, hopefully next day delivery. By now it was late afternoon and he was 300 miles from home with no transport so it was either Hotel or recovery. The BMW dealer sorted the recovery under the warranty and he got home very, very, very late.

Think a space saver would have been a better solution. Even at a max speed of 50 mph he would have got home earlier with less hassle.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Mr D Og

Think a space saver would have been a better solution. Even at a max speed of 50 mph he would have got home earlier with less hassle.

Perhaps not. The range for many space savers is frequently limited to 50 miles. So travelling 300 miles back home on it could have ended in disaster.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Engineer Andy

No-one seems to have mentioned run-flats. They seem to be a better solution than the space-saver.

Runflats are noise, give a firmer ride and are VERY expensive. Plus the issues thunderbird raised.

They and the tube of goo 'fixed' a problem we never had when cars had full sized spares. The saving in CO2 due to the weight difference is probably minimal, especially when compared to the CO2 spent getting a breakdown van to the scene or safety/security issues for people getting a flat out-of-hours in the middle of nowhere.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - gordonbennet

No-one seems to have mentioned run-flats. They seem to be a better solution than the space-saver.

Son had sensible size runflats on the 325 estate they ran for a while, Evans Halshaw fitted a new set of Firestone runflats when they sold it to him (EH proved an excellent dealership by the way), and he was both surprised and pleased how well they performed, he ran a seperate set of winter tyres/wheels but in the middle of winter removed the winter set and refitted the F'stones because they were simply a better tyre in all conditions.

If you shop around, and don't have silly elastic band sizes runflats arn't appreciably more expensive than equivalent normals.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

except the splendid self repair stories using a plug

... what the tyre shop say when you take the self plugged tyre in for a permanent repair. Will they do anything or just say "sorry mate, cannot do anything now".

Depends where you take it. That's almost certainly the response from the well-known chains of dubious repute, but I'm sure the friendly north Kettering back street used tyre dealer I have patronised in the past would be more helpful.

I seem to remember that in the 1960s the plug repairs were acceptable but at some date were declared unsuitable and garages had to take tyres off and vulcanise an internal patch instead of 'plugging a puncture'.

There were only a few mms tread left, so I saw no reason why the plug repair shouldn't last until I needed new tyres - which it did. It only had to withstand less than half the pressure of that in a moderately well inflated bicycle tyre.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - focussed

"Has anyone ever had a puncture and successfully fixed it by the side of the road with the puncture repair kit provided"

Yes - once, but didn't use the can of gloop as the car didn't come with one in the early 2000's, but I used a can of Holts Tyreweld , it was dark, raining and cold so I didn't fancy putting the skinny spare on. It got me home ten miles and the tyre was still up in the morning.

Got the usual moans about ruining the tyre from the tyre depot, so i got them to remove it from the rim, went out into the yard and hosed the tyre our, dried it with workshop paper and there was nothing wrong with it. so they reluctantly repaired it.

It lasted another 3 years until I go rid of the car. .

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Mr D Og

Has anyone ever had a puncture and successfully fixed it by the side of the road with the puncture repair kit provided"

According to Green Flag repair kits will offer a temporary fix in 4 out of every 5 punctures and enable the user to safely do 300-400 miles. The implication is that this statistic only applies in cases where they (and/or similar roadside recovery firms) carry out the repair. Perhaps the average motorist has less success?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

Having carefully gone through the 50 replies so far, it looks like only 3 people have experience of successfully fixing the puncture with sealant or a repair kit by the roadside and driving on. I have had at least one puncture on all nearly all the cars we've had over 40 years' motoring, and have always changed the wheel myself. It's not hard, in fact the only time I've found it difficult is when you have a heavy full size spare dangling precariously from a frame under the car. So having just bought a new (ish) Toyota (see separate thread) I know the advice of HJ members is unanimously 'buy a space saver' !

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Benet

The implication is that this statistic only applies in cases where they (and/or similar roadside recovery firms) carry out the repair.

But the more people call out recovery services for trivial problems like punctures the longer delays there are for everyone else.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Avant

Very good point, Benet, and one which is often forgotten about.

I quite understand the reasons, to do with weight and emissions, why spare wheels are often extra rather than standard: but to design a car with no provision for one is irresponsible.

The problem is that some manufacturers don't give a stuff if the car sells well. And they do because too many customers haven't the wit to ask about a spare wheel - and find out the hard way when they have a puncture.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - RT

The implication is that this statistic only applies in cases where they (and/or similar roadside recovery firms) carry out the repair.

But the more people call out recovery services for trivial problems like punctures the longer delays there are for everyone else.

Changing a wheel by the roadside is often a dangerous situation and best left to professionals.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

According to Green Flag repair kits will offer a temporary fix in 4 out of every 5 punctures and enable the user to safely do 300-400 miles.

How do they know that, do they follow the cars to see if they are OK?

Changing a wheel by the roadside is often a dangerous situation and best left to professionals.

It may be but so is waiting on the side of a Motorway (or any road). If I had a puncture I would get the car off the road as far as possible and if necessary drive at low speed to a safer place, it might knacker the tyre totally but better the tyre than me. Then I would change it as quickly as I could.

Waiting for many hours for a breakdown truck stood at the side of the road (you should not stay in the car) is not my idea of safety.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

Perhaps not. The range for many space savers is frequently limited to 50 miles. So travelling 300 miles back home on it could have ended in disaster.

Just looked in the Skoda and Nissan handbooks, no mention is made of distance only speed but they do say that since they have less tread depth than a conventional tyre you should keep a watch on them.

Then looked on the AA website. they clearly say that there is no mileage limit and also mention the lower tread depth. They add that since they are softer rubber that will wear more quickly but the would need to be made of putty to be incapable of doing less than a few hundred miles (or possibly even a few thousand miles).

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

Perhaps not. The range for many space savers is frequently limited to 50 miles.

Why? I have never seen this advice. I can think of no good reason for it. I think you may have mis-remembered the 50mph advisory.

Then looked on the AA website. they clearly say that there is no mileage limit and also mention the lower tread depth. They add that since they are softer rubber that will wear more quickly but the would need to be made of putty to be incapable of doing less than a few hundred miles (or possibly even a few thousand miles).

Quite so. It would be a waste of space and money to to make a spacesaver (the clue is in the name) with more than a very few mms of tread. In over 16yrs of ownership the Focus spacesaver was used twice - total mileage considerably less then 100. The cautiously low 50mph speed limit is advisory - on a motorway I remember an indicated 60 felt perfectly safe and avoided being hassled by impatient HGVs.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - thunderbird

The cautiously low 50mph speed limit is advisory

Sorry to tell you but its the legal limit and not simply advisory.

Look at the Construction and use regs 1986

26 (5) Paragraphs (1), (2), and (4) do not prohibit the fitting of a temporary use spare tyre to a wheel of a passenger vehicle (not being a bus) unless it is driven at a speed exceeding 50 mph.

Pretty sure the definition of a "temporary use spare" is any wheel/tyre combination that does not match the other wheel/tyres on the car. Thus even though our Fabia has a proper 185 60 15 tyre on a steel rim which matches the "normal" tyres (215 45 16) for circumference within 3mm and load rating it still has a 50mph sticker on it.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - John F

The cautiously low 50mph speed limit is advisory

Sorry to tell you but its the legal limit and not simply advisory.

Mea culpa. I sit corrected.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Andrew-T

But the more people call out recovery services for trivial problems like punctures the longer delays there are for everyone else.

What surprises me is the attention given to this difficulty. I have never clocked up more than about 10K miles a year - a lot less these days - but I can't remember when I last suffered a puncture needing to change a wheel at the roadside (tho I continue to be prepared for that). I have visited tyre places for slow punctures caused by screws in the tread (my present Pug arrived from the dealer in that condition) or by leaky beads, but I have always managed to change the wheel at home.

Maybe part of the manufacturers' preference for space-savers etc. is because sudden punctures have become so rare that it's not worth providing for them in the overall scheme of things ?

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - galileo

But the more people call out recovery services for trivial problems like punctures the longer delays there are for everyone else.

What surprises me is the attention given to this difficulty. I have never clocked up more than about 10K miles a year - a lot less these days - but I can't remember when I last suffered a puncture needing to change a wheel at the roadside (tho I continue to be prepared for that). I have visited tyre places for slow punctures caused by screws in the tread (my present Pug arrived from the dealer in that condition) or by leaky beads, but I have always managed to change the wheel at home.

Maybe part of the manufacturers' preference for space-savers etc. is because sudden punctures have become so rare that it's not worth providing for them in the overall scheme of things ?

The manufacturers don't want to provide a spare or space-saver because not having one a) saves them the cost of provision and b) keeps the overall weight down and might reduce CO2 emissions by .005 grams per mile: like many other features this is driven by EU/UK tax rules

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Avant

Exactly so. But there's no reason why some of them won't offer it as an option, as many do.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Brit_in_Germany

The new EU emission rules take into account options ordered with the car so that may be a reason for getting rid of them completely.

any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - galileo

The new EU emission rules take into account options ordered with the car so that may be a reason for getting rid of them completely.

  • I'm just glad I got a full size spare included with my i30 in 2009, I'm keeping it as long as I can, could afford a new car but don't want all the nanny-state 'advantages' such as lane assist, AEB etc and no spare wheel.
any - Puncture repair kits instead of spare wheels - Mr D Og

I don't think anybody advocating use of space saver tyres has mentioned potential damage to car braking, stability systems etc. Or, in a rear wheel drive car with a limited slip differential a space saver on the rear can damage the LSD. Perhaps this is why some people wouldn't wish to travel far using a space saver.