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Speed awarenes course and covid? - Lrac

Just passed a police officer standing in a crowd of people with what appeared to be a speed gun (no handle just a rectangular shape). I was probably doing about 34mph in a 30 limit.

I was wondering if I would automatically get a fine and points as opposed to a speed awareness course due to covid restrictions?

Not necessarily relevant to the question but he had a pointed hat and no vehicle or signs and was in a group so I wonder if he could have been "having a go with a local group to show them how to use a camera"

If offered a course I would naturally choose that

Speed awarenes course and covid? - FP

"The National Police Chiefs’ Council (NPCC) lead for Roads Policing has suspended classroom-based speed awareness courses for 12 weeks, due to the Coronavirus lockdown.

"Motoring lawyer Nick Freeman has warned the suspension may cause many motorists who get caught speeding during the lockdown period to be issued with fixed penalty notices instead."

- from tinyurl.com/ybdacqow, dated 2nd April 2020, so you can work out that the 12 weeks are up somewhere around late June - this could be extended, of course.

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Lrac

Oh well I'll let you know what happens. Thanks

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Middleman

Classroom based courses are not being held before 13th July. A distance learning course has been developed but it is currently only being made available to drivers who had already been offered a course.

Enforcement normally begins at 35mph.

Speed awarenes course and covid? - ExA35Owner
Not necessarily relevant to the question but he had a pointed hat and no vehicle or signs and was in a group so I wonder if he could have been "having a go with a local group to show them how to use a camera"

Totally irrelevant. There is no requirement for a sign, no requirement for the officer even to be visible, no requirement for him to be wearing any specific headgear. Some forces are deliberately concealing speed cameras in the hope of more general deterrence, others go for very visible checks, also hoping for deterrence.

As a parallel - do you think it matters what uniform an officer is wearing when he arrests, or reports, someone for a different criminal offence such as assault or theft?

If you are right about your speed, it's unlikely that any action will be taken, as most forces don't take enforcement action until 10% + 2 mph above the limit, so 35mph in your case. Now the experience of the driver is another issue - the sequence will be (1) notice the officer then (2) go for the brakes and then (3) look at the speedometer. It can be, therefore, that at (1) we are looking at, say, 40 mph; then by (3) only 33 mph is showing; great sigh of relief by the driver followed a few days later with a letter from the police, and then followed by indignation: "I was only doing 33 when I looked at my speedo and they are saying I was doing 40"

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Lrac

As a parallel - do you think it matters what uniform an officer is wearing when he arrests, or reports, someone for a different criminal offence such as assault or theft

As said I don't believe it to be of any relevance. There are "civilian" agencies in vans doing the same thing but it got me wondering when I last saw a police officer in one of the taller hats doing speed checks or anything else for that matter. He was miles away from the nearest station. I do appreciate he can take his hat off.

You are spot on with your sequence of events but in this case I didn't think I was speeding so checked speedo first. I value my integrity so I would not deny I was speeding but there is no way I was doing 40.

As an aside my wife entered my reg into a site purporting to check if my details had been recorded on a data base regarding this matter and it said my reg was flagged up in Southampton on 18th May in Southampton which is odd as I live about 150 miles away and have never visited Southampton. I did visit Colchester Hospital with my wife on that day so I could prove that. I told her to log off and forget about it.

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Lrac

It's been 14 days and not received any form of NIP. is it safe for me to come out of hiding now?

Postal deliveries on a Saturday resumed today so I would have been doubly depressed if it had arrived today.

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Middleman

It's been 14 days and not received any form of NIP. is it safe for me to come out of hiding now?

Provided you are the Registered Keeper, that you have not acquired the vehicle recently and that all your details shown on the V5C are correct.

That said, if you do receive a NIP beyond 14 days, there is an automatic presumption that it was served on you two working days after posting. If it arrives beyond day 14 and the prosecution can show that it was posted in time then the burden shifts to you to prove that it was not served by day 14.

Speed awarenes course and covid? - Lrac

I have been asking the postman each day if he is delivering my NIP so it may be possible if I continue to bribe him with cold drinks on hot days.