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Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - HGV ~ P Valentine

I join the rest of the country in the gratitude that the NHS are putting themselves at risk by keeping the hospitals open.

I join the rest of the country in the gratitude that the supermarkets and food shops are staying open.

I join the rest of the country in resting easy knowing the police and all emergency services are still there if we need them.

But, they all have 1 thing in common, they are all reliant on 1 set of people who if they did not do their job they could not do theirs.

The same people who keep the power stations open so we can have electric, the same people that keep the gas supplies coming into our homes that allow us to cook and heat them.

THE DELIVERY DRIVERS. Yes the people that deliver to the supermarkets, the people that deliver supplies to the police, the people that deliver supplies ….. TO THE HOSPITALS AND ALL NHS STAFF.

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - Engineer Andy

Lots of other people to thank:

  • People working for utility firms to keep the lights on, gas, water and sewerage flowing where they should, phones and internet working;
  • Bus, train, tube and taxi drivers, and all those who maintain the vehicles, roads and railways to ensure everyone else in major towns and cities who need to work get there;
  • People working on ancillary jobs in the community, such as binmen (not a job I'd want at the moment, given what could be in those bins they empty);
  • Airline and airport staff still working - often to repatriate Brits abroad trying to get home who may themselves have the virus (a risk on planes where they use mostly recirculated air in a confined space);
  • People working in factories making things we all need to survive;
  • Engineers and scientists redeploying their skills to help redesign/retool production lines or develop new products to help the fight in double-quick time;
  • The Armed Forces, who have undeniably proven their worth in all this with their brilliant work ferrying people and medical supplies around the country and setting up the temporary hospitals in just a few days;
  • People working in construction to help build/convert said buildings into hospitals and to keep our boilers, etc going. Lots of them working in very tough conditions in public buildings, especially hospitals, to ensure everything keeps working and safely. From someone who used to work in this field, keeping a hospital going is no easy task.
  • Many other prople working in their own way, whether locally to help their community, especially vulnerable people, or using their otherwise furloughed business to help provide services.
  • So many small cogs (that we normally never notice) keeping the big wheels turning - cleaners, receptionists, admin staff, people manning phones, security staff, postal staff.

THANK YOU.

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - Penumbra

And to be fair , many of the ones being thanked are front-line workers putting themselves at risk of illness or even death to help others. Not quite the same comparison as your job really, unless you are in a front-line position in which case I'll take back my comment.

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - concrete

I think now is not the time to be holier than thou. Of course everyone accepts that some positions are more hazardous than others, but all roles fulfilled are interdependent upon each other. If the smallest cog in the machine breaks then the whole machine stops. So everyone deserves our thanks for playing their part in this epidemic. Front line NHS staff, NHS supply chain workers, supermarket staff; the list goes on. The delivery drivers are playing their part too, for without supplies the whole chain breaks down. We have not crossed our threshold since early March and we get groceries delivered from our regular supermarket, newspapers and other items from kindly neighbours who need to go out and about for various tasks. We cannot begin to show our gratitude to all these different people.

There is one thing I would do. That is to immediately imprison anyone who abuses in any way the people that are fulfilling these roles. Some of the stories of ignorant and stupid people who abuse these workers at this time are astonishing. My daughter is a serving police officer and they are required to discharge their duty without any PPE or other protection other than the usual precautions. IMHO every police station should have a 'flying squad' to be dispatched immediately to any report of such behaviour and they should have powers to detain and hold offenders until such time as a court can deal with them. That would be my tribute to them.

To them ALL i say a huge 'thank you' from our family.

Cheers Concrete

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - gordonbennet

Most of those having key worker status bestowed upon them don't think of themselves as anything other than people going to work as they always have.

On the contrary, selfishly i for one am very glad to be involved in basic staple foodstuffs, whatever happens those involved in the basic running/servicing/feeding etc of the country are in as safe jobs as anyone could have these days, a lot to be said for that because many people in jobs not considered essential will find themselves in dire straits and quite possibly with no job to go back to with poor alternative prospects if and when this crisis is over, quite likely the crisis ending will morph seamlessly into a recession far worse than anything we've witnessed in our own adult lives, and the lives of many people may never be the same again.

Front line medical staff and similar excluded, i'm not convinced that those at home (unless self sufficient living in remote parts) are any safer than those at work and taking reasonable precautions.

For what its worth i'm also uneasy about destroying the economy and borrowing countless £billions in the hope the lockdown does the trick, as President Trump said a while back, the cure could well prove worse than the disease.

It's rather odd having letter in my bag informing anyone whom it may concern that i am a key worker, it will be stranger still if i get pulled and asked for my papers!

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - Zippy123

For what its worth i'm also uneasy about destroying the economy and borrowing countless £billions in the hope the lockdown does the trick, as President Trump said a while back, the cure could well prove worse than the disease.

So what is an acceptable death rate before you would allow the economy to be damaged?

Is it 10,000 (and lets hope it's not you or one of your loved ones) or is it 200,000 or 2 million?

As an aside, I don't count myself as a key worker and I am taking a ten minute tea break at 3:25AM to finalise a paper that may allow an urgent loan to a business that needs to get essential supplies to a business on Tuesday morning. The products will be used in the new hospitals.

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - Andrew-T

<< So what is an acceptable death rate before you would allow the economy to be damaged? >>

As has been said many times, this draconian response is not to minimise the death rate, it's to control the load on an NHS under great pressure. A graph appeared last week showing that deaths from flu were several times greater than those from Covid, but because there is herd immunity from flu it doesn't spread like wildfire, so there is no panic reaction.

A balance always has to be struck between protecting individuals and protecting the society on which we all depend. Time may show whether it has been struck in the best place. I say this as one of the 'vulnerable' group who hopes not to suffer too greatly from the extended after-effects.

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - gordonbennet

So what is an acceptable death rate before you would allow the economy to be damaged?

Is it 10,000 (and lets hope it's not you or one of your loved ones) or is it 200,000 or 2 million?

As an aside, I don't count myself as a key worker and I am taking a ten minute tea break at 3:25AM to finalise a paper that may allow an urgent loan to a business that needs to get essential supplies to a business on Tuesday morning. The products will be used in the new hospitals.

Dunno, what is the acceptable death rate of people left desolate when the economy is on its back side, businesses people built up over a lifetime are destroyed and hundreds of thousands of people without jobs to return to, bills mounting and the genuine possibility of mass repossessions, losing homes after years trying to keep up mortgages they would never have contemplated had normal interest rates and natural population increases applied, how many of those will die early.

Quite apart from the people who weren't allowed to see their loves ones as death approached, close relatives shouldering guilt that they couldn't be there, and can't even attend the funeral.

Anyone signing up for Dr Mengele's reputed vaccine complete with nano spyware, they know what they can do with that.

Edited by gordonbennet on 12/04/2020 at 18:18

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - madf

"Anyone signing up for Dr Mengele's reputed vaccine complete with nano spyware, they know what they can do with that."

Too true...

Take em for granted again - The forgotten ones - alan1302

Dunno, what is the acceptable death rate of people left desolate when the economy is on its back side, businesses people built up over a lifetime are destroyed and hundreds of thousands of people without jobs to return to, bills mounting and the genuine possibility of mass repossessions, losing homes after years trying to keep up mortgages they would never have contemplated had normal interest rates and natural population increases applied, how many of those will die early.

Quite apart from the people who weren't allowed to see their loves ones as death approached, close relatives shouldering guilt that they couldn't be there, and can't even attend the funeral.

What would you have the government do in this situation?

I don't think they had any choice in what they have done so and although not all the time have managed to do a pretty decent job of it. At the moment a large chunk of people are still getting the majority of their wages and most solid companies will be able to continue afterwards. It's not going to be easy.