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Paper tax discs - barney100

Apparently the demise of the old paper tax disc has cost millions of pounds with people forgetting even though there are plenty of reminders around. Seeing the date on the disc on your windscreen was a constant reminder and difficult to ignore.

Paper tax discs - madf

Easily solved..

Car not taxed.?

Cannot pay immediately?

Car seized and sold...and balance to owner after VED backdated plus costs plus plus.

After a few cases and much whingeing... and sob stories..

Of course it will not happen..

Paper tax discs - Andrew-T

I think it's because the revised system hopes to detect non-taxers via ANPR cameras, instead of officers looking at windscreens. Drivers easily forget using either system. Many years ago my FiL drove for months with an out-of-date disc on his car, but it seems that the old way may have been more effective.

Paper tax discs - Falkirk Bairn

Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again!

You save £30m on printing & distributing Road Tax Discs

You lose £90m from untaxed cars/vans & lorries.

Paper tax discs - sammy1

You do not see police wandering the streets anymore so paper disc or not they would not pick up untaxed cars. Road tax continues to increase and the law abiding will always pay!

Paper tax discs - Middleman

I think it's because the revised system hopes to detect non-taxers via ANPR cameras, instead of officers looking at windscreens.

No it doesn't. It is not necessary for a vehicle to be seen for an offence to be committed. All vehicles must either be taxed or SORN'd. To have an untaxed vehicle that is not been declared SORN is an offence. All that's needed is a regular run (say once a month) of the DVLA database to identify those vehicles that are neither taxed nor SORN'd. A penalty notice (of about ten times the annual duty) can then be issued to the RK and rigorously enforced backed up with the power to seize and either sell or scrap the vehicle.

There is, of course, the issue of vehicles that have been SORN'd being used on the road. A team of inspectors should be employed tasked with visiting the RK's address with powers to demand to be told the whereabouts of the vehicle. If it cannot be seen and no satisfactory explanation for its whereabouts is provided a penalty should be issued. This should be higher than that for failing to tax a vehicle because it cannot be explained by oversight as a deliberate off-road declaration had been made. Similar powers to sell or scrap should be available.

The scrapping of the tax disc is smoke and mirrors. If owners are that dependent on a scrap of paper reminding them when payment is due they can sellotape a note to their glove box (and they could add their MoT expiry date as well to avoid a second problem).. The fact is it's being cited as an excuse for evasion that is not being prosecuted.

Paper tax discs - Terry W

I totally agree with Middleman.

ANPR is a proven technology. Whether this is used to prove the use of a vehicle on the road, or the use of DVLA data is debatable although the latter is more likely to expose errors in the database due to paperwork following rather than coincident with events (eg: vehicle sales)

However I can only assume that not bothering to enforce the law is a policy decision as it would be so easy to do. Perhaps they are fed up with being labelled as treating motorists as cash cows.

Paper tax discs - bathtub tom

DVLA do seem to have roving enforcers. Saw one clamping a car on the road near me and on checking its status, found it hadn't been taxed for a few months. Half-an-hour later it had disappeared. I assume it had been lifted. It re-appeared a few days later with twelve months tax!

I understand police can now have a car removed if the tax is more than a couple of months overdue.

Paper tax discs - Andrew-T

<< It is not necessary for a vehicle to be seen for an offence to be committed. All vehicles must either be taxed or SORN'd. To have an untaxed vehicle that is not been declared SORN is an offence. All that's needed is a regular run (say once a month) of the DVLA database to identify those vehicles that are neither taxed nor SORN'd >>

Of course. But that assumes that DVLA knows of all changes to every car's ownership. Simply sending penalty notices to the last known address for every vehicle one month overdue is only a partial solution. Something else must explain the noticeable increase in apparent non-taxation.