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Cheers. I'll bear that in mind when the time comes.
See reply above about the Nissan - def not buying new but had considered it. Used up to five years is fine for us.
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Cheers. I'll bear that in mind when the time comes.
See reply above about the Nissan - def not buying new but had considered it. Used up to five years is fine for us.
£12,000 will get you a 67 or 18 plate MG ZS excite, with 6 years warranty left, or a SSangyong tivoli..5 or 7 years warranty depending on age.
As far as I am aware I am the only one who had a minor problem with my zs, and that was resolved quickly by the dealer.
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I guess the OP would need to factor in the gigantic depreciation likely to be suffered with an MG or Ssangyong.
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Earlier gen cars weren’t that bad especially the simple 1.6 petrol which was robust if timing belt intervals were adhered to
Why would you want to change the timing belt on a car fitted with a chain?
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I thought it was a belt driven 16v 1.6 Megane unit. Apparently I’m wrong from a quick look.
Edited by SLO76 on 05/02/2019 at 17:32
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I guess the OP would need to factor in the gigantic depreciation likely to be suffered with an MG or Ssangyong.
But... Take your pick of any 1 year od car and
see what you will get on trade in
see what you will pay buying.
Percentage wise, (strangely enough) no real difference between anything mainstream..
Personally, I don't care about depreciation, it is cost to buy in real life that counts.
So currently I would lose a £1000 against my 2017 MG ZS against the purchase price I paid.
Who actually expects the motor trade to work for nothing?
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Would a Honda HRV, fit the bill, ?, I think these are similar size to the quashqai..
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Would a Honda HRV, fit the bill, ?, I think these are similar size to the quashqai..
The Honda is smaller, not by a huge amount (10cm in length, 3.4cm in width), but unless space is a priority, this would be a good call and certainly more reliable than a Qashqai. Petrol versions start at just over the OP's £12k upper limit, but diesels can be had under £12k. This could actually be a very shrewd choice as Honda's 1.6 diesel does not seem to be afflicted by the usual modern diesel problems (that is the emissions equipment) and In addition, they are very, very efficient. Here is one on Autotrader,
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20190109378...1
The OP describes the Sportage as being too big but it is only 9cm longer (5cm wider) than a Qashqai, so not a huge difference. Not that i'd recommend one, unless you are a very laid back driver. The Sportage is a heavy old bus and it's n/a 1.6 is lacking in torque, so progress could be frustrating if you are in a hurry!. A couple of options i'd be looking at with your budget and requirements are the Mazda 3, though bear in mind it is slighly smaller again (than the Honda HRV), here is one,
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181214326...1
Also, the Suzuki Vitara and SX4 S-Coss are both worth a look. The Vitara is a bit more rugged and trendy looking, but smaller, the S-Cross more practical with a bigger boot. £12k would get you into a 2017 example of each, but noticed a 2018 S-Cross with 1k miles within budget (link below). Engine wise, the Vitara has a n/a 1.6 petrol and the S-Cross would have the 1.0 turbo (which has less bhp but more torque at lower revs). Both are very light in weight compared to their rivals (the Mazda is too, but to a lesser degree), and Suzuki's are usually very reliable. Here are examples of each,
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181017156...1
www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180704810...1
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Thanks for the info - I'll add to the list and check out.
Edited by Neil Randall on 06/02/2019 at 09:34
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That one passed me by, too, so I'll look at them, ta.
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I guess the OP would need to factor in the gigantic depreciation likely to be suffered with an MG or Ssangyong.
The stereotypical assumption without anything to back it up!.
But just to clarify things for you, the comparison of used values between the Qashqai and the Ssangyong Tivoli might be worth some consideration. Searching for the cheapest of both, as 2015 models (the 1st year the Tivoli was on sale) petrol engine, manual gearbox, with up to 40k miles, the results are as follows.
The Tivoli in question (a 1.6 SE with 14k miles) had lost 41.5% of its list price in depreciation,
The Qashqai in question (a 1.2 Visia) had lost 51% of its list price in depreciation.
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I guess the OP would need to factor in the gigantic depreciation likely to be suffered with an MG or Ssangyong.
The stereotypical assumption without anything to back it up!.
But just to clarify things for you, the comparison of used values between the Qashqai and the Ssangyong Tivoli might be worth some consideration. Searching for the cheapest of both, as 2015 models (the 1st year the Tivoli was on sale) petrol engine, manual gearbox, with up to 40k miles, the results are as follows.
The Tivoli in question (a 1.6 SE with 14k miles) had lost 41.5% of its list price in depreciation,
The Qashqai in question (a 1.2 Visia) had lost 51% of its list price in depreciation.
Out of curiousity, i just tried the same comparison using the same criteria for the Audi Q3. The cheapest on Autotrader has lost 39% of its list price in depreciation.
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That's the asking price, not the price they're sold for. Plus, who pays list price?
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That's the asking price, not the price they're sold for. Plus, who pays list price?
Granted it is not a scientific calculation and i realise the used Tivoli probably won't get the full asking price, but the same goes for the Qashqai. As for the new price, yes, probably more chance of getting a bigger discount on the Qashqai when new than the Tivoli, but in order to just be on equal terms with the Tivoli (with no discount), the Qashqai buyer would have had to get £3.5k off the list price.
Ultimately, yes, the Tivoli may well depreciate more than the Qashqai once the discount on the new price is figured in. But percentage wise, the difference is not going to be much, and certainly some way from "gigantic".
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Yes, maybe the word 'gigantic' was a bit over the top, but you get my drift...
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Hadn't considered Ssangyong but didn't even know MG still existed! I'll check them out. Ta.
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Hadn't considered Ssangyong but didn't even know MG still existed! I'll check them out.
"Real" MG's don't - the name was bought by the Chinese state motor company SAIC in 2013, and they now sell cars bearing the MG moniker in UK.
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Would second the Suzuki options. They give Japanese reliability but at less cost than Honda or Toyota, not to knock either as they are both good.
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I have no axe to grind and no hidden agenda.... and I'm aware about what some (many?) say about French automotive technology - but is it still not worth considering a Dacia Duster if we're talking about depreciation and overall costs?
Even if the Audi (or BMW or Merc) did lose less in percentage terms, and it (they) may well, it's surely still likely to lose a considerable sum as it (they) cost quite a bit more than a Dacia ... maybe they'd lose a lot more more than the Dacia over a given period?
I guess it's whether you want, or want to be seen, in a Dacia. I think there are plenty who wouldn't want to be.... but if you wasn't bothered and kept it for 5, 6, 7 years, or maybe more, then isn't it likely to be the one to have cost you the least overall?
You can take out a 7 year warranty if you're concerned (£795) and a 4 year service plan is £650.
On the other hand, if it kept breaking down or started to fall apart then no-one wants that, but don't they sell Dusters in countries slightly less hospitable than ours when it comes to rough roads and limited high tech repair facilities etc?
I haven't personally looked closely as I don't plan on changing as we speak - plus they don't curently do an automatic petrol one, but if that changed I'd probably check one out.
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