Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - mondeoman2013

I have a Zafira B with no spare wheel.

I can buy a space saver off eBay for a sensible price but was wondering if i need different wheel nuts to fit the space saver or will the nuts for my standard alloys work fine ?

I ask because my old E class mercedes had shorter nuts for the spare wheel.

Thanks

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - oldroverboy.

Some Vauxhalls/GM/OPels have different nuts if alloys or steel.

Geta Wheel from

www.thewheelshop.co.uk/

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - klu01dbt

If you are getting a spacesaver because your car originally came with a can of gunk or similar try to get the whole spare wheel kit, which will include a wheel brace, jack and if required nuts. It will probably be cheaper buying the whole thing in one go, rather than buying the bits you need on an ad hoc basis and will fit the car better if it was designed with space for a spare wheel and its packaging.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

Nuts are different from studs. Be careful when buying if you are not sure of your terminology.

VW group cars use the same studs for fitting space savers/spare steel wheel and oem alloy wheels. From my experience.

The wheel site above appears to be useful. I paid for a complete spare wheel kit when I got my current Skoda Octavia. Up to £150 iirc.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Brit_in_Germany

There is also the HJ sponsored content ;-)

www.honestjohn.co.uk/sponsored-content/sponsored-c.../

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Steveieb
Need a space saver for my daughters Mazda 3 2015.
The eBay offer is considerably cheaper than the two companies mentioned above, possibly because it is used.
Can you see any drawbacks with taking this cheaper alternative ?
Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - oldroverboy.

From the wheel shop it, ll be new with a new toolkit...

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - dan86

I bought a spare wheel and tool kit including the polystyrene moulds on eBay for our Nissan qashqai for less than half the price the dealer wanted. It was second hand but the seller had never used it you could tell this on inspecting it when it turned up.

Has the eBay item you've found actuly been used?

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Bromptonaut

Provided it's as described an unused or virtually unused spare wheel and kit via e-bay should be OK.

I got spare and kit in place of OEM compressor and goo as condition of deal buying my Roomster s/h in 2015. Proper steel wheel with OEM premium brand tyre and same size etc as alloys actually on car.

In intervening period spare has had a few days and a few hundred miles usage - 2 flat tyres.

Trouble is if you 'win' the auction and it turns out to be a rusty wheel and worn ditchfinder.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Steveieb
The space saver on eBay has been used but they get little use in real life.
Half the price of the new ones and complete with Jack and brace etc.£69 against £120 to £180
Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - oldroverboy.

If it is a "used" spacesaver, can you be sure that it has only been used at 50 MPH for 50 miles, and how old is it?

A spacesaver is a temp solution, but do you want to rik your life

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - John F

The speed restriction is more to do with the potential instability of the car than the fragility of the space saver wheel and its tyre. The age is immaterial as modern tyres do not decompose much as the years roll by, especially in cool dark dry compartments. Our Focus spacesaver is over eighteen years old, has been used about twice, holds its highish pressure well and looks like new. Your life will be more at risk trying to use it by the side of a busy road!

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - dan86

The speed restriction is more to do with the potential instability of the car than the fragility of the space saver wheel and its tyre. The age is immaterial as modern tyres do not decompose much as the years roll by, especially in cool dark dry compartments. Our Focus spacesaver is over eighteen years old, has been used about twice, holds its highish pressure well and looks like new. Your life will be more at risk trying to use it by the side of a busy road!

Not many people and myself included usuely do this but I'm going to agree with John F on this one.

Do you buy a new spare wheel when you buy a second hand car?

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Glaikit Wee Scunner {P}

I know what you mean, but in my case yes- literally. Car came with sealant and a pump only.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - dan86

I know what you mean, but in my case yes- literally. Car came with sealant and a pump only.

So did ours that's why I sourced one from eBay at my earliest convenience

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - Engineer Andy

The speed restriction is more to do with the potential instability of the car than the fragility of the space saver wheel and its tyre. The age is immaterial as modern tyres do not decompose much as the years roll by, especially in cool dark dry compartments. Our Focus spacesaver is over eighteen years old, has been used about twice, holds its highish pressure well and looks like new. Your life will be more at risk trying to use it by the side of a busy road!

Not many people and myself included usuely do this but I'm going to agree with John F on this one.

Do you buy a new spare wheel when you buy a second hand car?

It depends upon:

a) how easy it is to send it back and get a refund (from Ebay & Co) if the 'used' product isn't the one or in the condition as advertised. I wouldn't be surprised if some were offered 'as new' but had been used quite a bit (you'd have to thoroughly check for wear and damage), including for more than the 50 miles at 50mph max limit per use;

b) the make of car - some come with a space for just a space-saver spare and no 'special polystyrene cutout, as the latest generation of Mazdas do - that's why Mazda charges £395 for a 'kit', consisting of a spare wheel (painted steel) and space saver tyre (costs £100 - £150 from other makes), a basic tool (jack and brace?) or two plus the polystyrene cutout to hold them all below the main boot area.

The second is, IMHO a right wheeze by Mazda (and any other car manufacturer who does this). I've seen MANY adverts on Ebay for mk3 Mazda3 spare tyre kits when all they are is a compatible wheel and tyre and NO cutout - the wheel/tyre would then move around below the boot (dangerous in a crash and noisy in general) and you'd have to buy the jack and brace separately to be able to fit the spare yourself.

Some of those ads look decidedly dodgy - they may be just from written off cars where the rear of the car was fine, but funny how they never say where the kit or tyres are sourced from and why they're being sold. I'd be wary. On the other hand, I'd have no problem if a reputable firm were to sell and aftermarket decent replica kit for what it actually cost to make plus a reasonable mark-up (say £150 or so). I'm surprise none has done this thus far, given the number of makes doing as Mazda seems to be rising.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - dan86

The speed restriction is more to do with the potential instability of the car than the fragility of the space saver wheel and its tyre. The age is immaterial as modern tyres do not decompose much as the years roll by, especially in cool dark dry compartments. Our Focus spacesaver is over eighteen years old, has been used about twice, holds its highish pressure well and looks like new. Your life will be more at risk trying to use it by the side of a busy road!

Not many people and myself included usuely do this but I'm going to agree with John F on this one.

Do you buy a new spare wheel when you buy a second hand car?

It depends upon:

a) how easy it is to send it back and get a refund (from Ebay & Co) if the 'used' product isn't the one or in the condition as advertised. I wouldn't be surprised if some were offered 'as new' but had been used quite a bit (you'd have to thoroughly check for wear and damage), including for more than the 50 miles at 50mph max limit per use;

b) the make of car - some come with a space for just a space-saver spare and no 'special polystyrene cutout, as the latest generation of Mazdas do - that's why Mazda charges £395 for a 'kit', consisting of a spare wheel (painted steel) and space saver tyre (costs £100 - £150 from other makes), a basic tool (jack and brace?) or two plus the polystyrene cutout to hold them all below the main boot area.

The second is, IMHO a right wheeze by Mazda (and any other car manufacturer who does this). I've seen MANY adverts on Ebay for mk3 Mazda3 spare tyre kits when all they are is a compatible wheel and tyre and NO cutout - the wheel/tyre would then move around below the boot (dangerous in a crash and noisy in general) and you'd have to buy the jack and brace separately to be able to fit the spare yourself.

Some of those ads look decidedly dodgy - they may be just from written off cars where the rear of the car was fine, but funny how they never say where the kit or tyres are sourced from and why they're being sold. I'd be wary. On the other hand, I'd have no problem if a reputable firm were to sell and aftermarket decent replica kit for what it actually cost to make plus a reasonable mark-up (say £150 or so). I'm surprise none has done this thus far, given the number of makes doing as Mazda seems to be rising.

That's why I didn't just buy the cheapest one I trawlled through loads of postings to find the right one that was a genuine Nissan one woth genuine toolkit and polystyrene.

Agreed the dealer mark up is tantamount to extortion.

As will most eBay items you are protected by their guarantee.

Vauxhall Zafira B - spacesaver wheel - nico77

Whatever you buy try it on the car before you need to use it. I bought a space saver off Ebay that said it was specifically for my car. Luckily I tried it and found that the pitch circle diameter or PCD was wrong and the bolts didn't fit properly.The seller took it back but couldn't find the right one so refunded. However he was still advertising space savers for my car.

For interest(?) here's a website that tells you what you need.

www.wheelfitment.eu/what-is-the-PCD.html