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Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Happy Blue!

Casually glancing through Autotrader last night I found a nine year old Mitsubishi Lancer with only 11,000 miles. On the assumption that this is genuine, and the photographs are a true representation of the condition of the car, would you buy it? The price is £3,490.

It reminds me of the 11 year old Fiat Punto I bought for my son to drive once he passed his test. It too had under 11,000 miles on it. Mechanically it has been perfect and apart from my son managing to scrape every panel, the bodywork has been fine also, with any bare metal causedby scrapes remaining rust free for months.

It's tempting simply as a car that has not been ravaged internally by much use and it is always easy to replace mechanical parts rather than a worn out and grimy interior. It goes without saying that there will be the usual fluid and filter change and a general check on the safety related items.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

Casually glancing through Autotrader last night I found a nine year old Mitsubishi Lancer with only 11,000 miles. On the assumption that this is genuine, and the photographs are a true representation of the condition of the car, would you buy it? The price is £3,490.

It reminds me of the 11 year old Fiat Punto I bought for my son to drive once he passed his test. It too had under 11,000 miles on it. Mechanically it has been perfect and apart from my son managing to scrape every panel, the bodywork has been fine also, with any bare metal causedby scrapes remaining rust free for months.

It's tempting simply as a car that has not been ravaged internally by much use and it is always easy to replace mechanical parts rather than a worn out and grimy interior. It goes without saying that there will be the usual fluid and filter change and a general check on the safety related items.

Were i looking for a car at that kind of budget, yes, i think i might be interested. Doesn't seem to expensive as is the case in many very low miles car where the seller seems to be taking the urea. It is a simple car, i believe they are pretty robust, so doesn't seem like much risk. MOT history check confirms the mileage, with only one fail for the rear foglamp not workking (2016).

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20190116400...1

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Manatee

It's an unremarkable car that wasn't outstanding in any way when new, but it's simple and should be reliable - the sort of car that makes complete sense at that age. Make sure it isn't harbouring rust, keep changing the oil and maintaining the running gear and there's every chance of getting years and many miles of good service out of it.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Happy Blue!

Its very tempting!

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - gordonbennet

Needs checking over for corrosion and previous damage, but i'd be happy to buy it.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - joegrundy

I find it very tempting. I like the simplicity, the lack of gadgets etc. combined with what I think is quite a classy interior. It would, I think, suit my relaxed style of driving (with the occasional visit to the red line to clear things out).

It would also suit a return to petrol. And I have a good indy to take care of it.

My 2004 x-type 2.0d (185k miles) is going in for service and MOT in the next few weeks. No problems apparent except perhaps for a wheel bearing. (I have applied the temporary fix of turning the radio up). It performed well on my xmas trip to Andorra, 2000+ miles on mixed roads at something like 55 mpg. If it passes OK and nothing is found, I'll keep it for another year. I've just renewed my UK and European breakdown insurance (I've told the story here of recovery from France and Pierre the pirate mechanic) and it was £75, same as last year, which I think is exxcellent value for a 15 year old car.

However, I'm not convinced that exceptionally low mileage is necessarily a good thing.. Others here will know more than me. In the 80s I bought a one owner Triumph Acclaim with very low miles. I liked the car very much (cherry red with a tan vinyl roof). It was immaculate. Unfortunately, the excellent Honda 1342 12 valve engine seemed to have been strangled by lack of use and the occasional bit of wellie.

I also wonder whether an exceptionally low mileage and possibly gentle miles at that could result in high oil consumption due to rings not having worn in?

AFAIK, Mitsubishi have a good reputation for reliability, and I assume good availability for parts.

Yes, it's tempting ...

Edited by joegrundy on 20/01/2019 at 18:31

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - nick62

Is it 4 wheel drive? Great buy if it is (and it's a kosher motor).

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

Is it 4 wheel drive? Great buy if it is (and it's a kosher motor).

No, it isn't that kind of Lancer, you can tell by the small wheels and lack of spoilers!.

Looking through Autotrader, there are a surprising number of very low mileage cars, some of which make that Lancer look positively worn out!. How about this 2008 Kangoo converted for carrying a wheelchair bound passenger, 3200miles! (though it is a bit too pricey for what it is, despite the miles)

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181106217...2

Or this 8000 mile 2007 Ford Ka?

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181203296...1

Here is a 1997 Nissan Micra with 14k

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180727886...1

and my final offering, a Citroen C3 Pluriel, this 2005 has 7750 miles!. I do quite like the quirky oddball Pluriel. This version, having the venerable 1.4 petrol with manual gearbox, is unlikely to cause any mechanical woes. Seems pretty decent value, even ignoring its likelyhood of becoming a future classic?

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20190110381...1

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Happy Blue!

I've scouring Autotrader with no particular aim (as I don't need to buy a car), but looking for something interesting in good condition, at low cost and low mileage. It is surprising how many people do not present their cars well at all, including traders.

Low miles can be a problem, if the car has not been properly run in. There was something on HJ's questions yesterday about a Skoda which had been driven too gently and was drinking oil. However, Japanese are probably better than the usual fare and the Lancer caught my eye. If my son was in need of a car now, I would buy it for him as it is almost too good a chance to pass up.

However, if one is looking for a daily driver, I wonder if there is a point at which the age and lack of mileage catch up with a car and it starts to become a 'classic' only to be driven on high days and holy days?

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - nick62

I had a new 115hp PD Passat estate, (the very last one before the 2000/2001 facelift).

It was sadly written-off in a motorway shunt, but I swear there was not a mark on it inside or out despite the 101,000 miles (it was almost seven years old). When I started looking for a replacement, anything with ~100,000 miles on it looked absolutely knackered. Worn-out steering wheels, gear gaiters and seats were the norm. What do people do to their cars to make them into such sheds?

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - craig-pd130

I also wonder whether an exceptionally low mileage and possibly gentle miles at that could result in high oil consumption due to rings not having worn in?

That can certainly happen, but running such an engine through a few cycles of hard work (i.e. accelerating hard between about 2,500 and 4,500rpm with full throttle several times) can help to bed in the rings. After all, running-in is just the start of wearing out :-)

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - SLO76
These make excellent cheap family cars. Mechanically simple and very robust but above all very cheap because they’re dull and rather unfashionable. This one is hugely overpriced despite its low mileage when £1,500 is enough to get an excellent (still low mileage) example. Remember also that no one wants them so stick below £1,500 as it’ll be worthless when you’re done with it. The estate is quite a uselful thing too.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180923079...1


Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20180827988...0

Spotted this at the dealer with the Lancer too.

Auto Trader:

www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/20181030195...1





Edited by SLO76 on 20/01/2019 at 19:42

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Happy Blue!

I think my point is SLO is that the Lancer I found was clearly so clean an unused, it is worth paying extra compared to the 50,000 mile example you found. The estate example looked quite grimy as well. I am tempted by clean cars....

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - SLO76

I think my point is SLO is that the Lancer I found was clearly so clean an unused, it is worth paying extra compared to the 50,000 mile example you found. The estate example looked quite grimy as well. I am tempted by clean cars....

It’s not worth £2k over the top end price though and the dealer will have paid no more than £1200 for it. It’s a good car from the description but overpriced for this model. Yes the other two aren’t as nice but they’re less than half the money. It’s your money though and as long as you intend on keeping it longterm them depreciation isn’t a worry.
Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Avant

Interesting that quite a lot of you are well-disposed towards this very low mileage Lancer.

Usually the conventional wisdom on here is to be less frightened of high-milers (which have probably spent much of their time on motorways) than cars which are likely to have been used for short trips to the shops or the station, with their engine seldom getting properly warmed up.. Age tends to wear out a car more than mileage.

Ideally if I were buying a used car I'd want it to have done between, say, 5,000 and 15,000 miles a year. Not too much, not too little.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - retgwte

They are very easy to steal, that's the biggest problem with this plan.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

They are very easy to steal, that's the biggest problem with this plan.

But a car needs to have some appeal to a thief in order to be targeted for theft. As SLO has pointed out, these cars are effectively worthless, so why would anyone steal it?. I don't see that as a problem at all, let alone, then biggest one. If you do have some concerns for whatever reason, buy one of those highly visible steering wheel locks.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Andrew-T

<< But a car needs to have some appeal to a thief in order to be targeted for theft. >>

There was a time, when only upmarket versions of cars had alloys, that locking wheel nuts were a necessity to avoid finding one's car on bricks one day. Lockers are still needed on recent models, but i have long ago taken them off my 28-year-old 205, they just look untidy.

But there was also a time when any badge or easily removed trim was a target for scallies - does that still happen, or was it a passing fad ?

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - gordonbennet

I'm assuming this is the later shape, 2008 onwards?

In which case it doesn't look overpriced at all, certainly if coming from a dealer worth doing business with.

Not all of us think a vehicle has to cover some set number of miles every year to be healthy motors, as always its how vehicles are cared for and how and when driven.

I've only owned one Mitsi, a mk 1 Outlander, and whilst a competent vehicle genuine parts are very very expensive, though the normal aftermarket takes care of the usual consumables if you do need genuine parts from the dealer they will not be cheap.

ie the lenses of the OE electrically adjustable headlights were prone to crazing on the mk 1 Outlander, they should have been sorted on a recall basis because they all crazed sooner or later but no joy there, new headlights some £350 a side and no aftermarket products available in left hand dip....out of interest i priced up new genuine Toyota electrically adjustable headlights for my current Landcruiser, just in case, which can be found for £180 a side.

Note, on Mitsi's like other Japanese (don't know about the Korean) makes, make sure the brakes are well serviced, because they have a habit of seizing calipers up during our annual salting period.

Edited by gordonbennet on 21/01/2019 at 10:09

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - SLO76
“I'm assuming this is the later shape, 2008 onwards?”

It isn’t, it’s the earlier model and is very expensive despite its low miles.
Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - gordonbennet
“I'm assuming this is the later shape, 2008 onwards?” It isn’t, it’s the earlier model and is very expensive despite its low miles.

Ah, i assumed at 9 years old it was a 2009 model and the later shape, i haven't found the advert HB was referring to.

The later model is a much more pleasing car all round IMO.

Edited by gordonbennet on 21/01/2019 at 11:13

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Happy Blue!
“I'm assuming this is the later shape, 2008 onwards?” It isn’t, it’s the earlier model and is very expensive despite its low miles.

Ah, i assumed at 9 years old it was a 2009 model and the later shape, i haven't found the advert HB was referring to.

The later model is a much more pleasing car all round IMO.

Yes. I have driven both and the Mk2 is far superior as a drive. Anyway, it's mere curiosity rather than I need to buy a car. If I was in the market is go in at £2500.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - jc2

Easy to steal cars were targeted by thieves to ride around in looking for something worth while stealing!

Edited by jc2 on 21/01/2019 at 14:22

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - John F

Usually the conventional wisdom on here is to be less frightened of high-milers (which have probably spent much of their time on motorways) than cars which are likely to have been used for short trips to the shops or the station, with their engine seldom getting properly warmed up.. Age tends to wear out a car more than mileage.

I think this so-called 'conventional wisdom' is actually nonsense. It's the cod science of desperate car salesmen trying to shift the high mileage cast-offs of company car drivers who cared not one iota for their car's well-being. A car is a machine, not an animal, so 'age' does not 'wear it out'. Think of the physics - the more use a machine gets, the more its parts will wear. My TR7 is 39 years old but has done only 70,000 miles. Most of its parts are original, none are particularly worn, even the rubbery bits.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - nick62
My TR7 is 39 years old .........................

I was having a decent day until that fact sank in!

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - andrew bairsto
It is not a genuine 2008 model the heater controls were moved about 2005 to a lower position.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver
It is not a genuine 2008 model the heater controls were moved about 2005 to a lower position.

Really?, i'm asking because looking at the Lancers advertised on Autotrader, with the exception of the new style 2008 models (which is a different car) and the evo's, ALL of the 2006, 2007 and 2008 Lancers have the heater controls the same position as the car in question. Are you saying they have all been sat in a depot for up to 3 years?.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - andrew bairsto

In 2004 the heater controls were moved f***her down so as to facilitate a double din or a single din and cubby hole.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

In 2004 the heater controls were moved f***her down so as to facilitate a double din or a single din and cubby hole.

That may well be the case with the EVO's, but there are no Lancers on Autotrader (of the shape being discussed) with the heater controls anywhere else. Have a look if you don't believe me, they can't all be dodgy!.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Leif

Usually the conventional wisdom on here is to be less frightened of high-milers (which have probably spent much of their time on motorways) than cars which are likely to have been used for short trips to the shops or the station, with their engine seldom getting properly warmed up.. Age tends to wear out a car more than mileage.

I think this so-called 'conventional wisdom' is actually nonsense. It's the cod science of desperate car salesmen trying to shift the high mileage cast-offs of company car drivers who cared not one iota for their car's well-being. A car is a machine, not an animal, so 'age' does not 'wear it out'. Think of the physics - the more use a machine gets, the more its parts will wear. My TR7 is 39 years old but has done only 70,000 miles. Most of its parts are original, none are particularly worn, even the rubbery bits.

An exhaust is a good example of something that will wear out more quickly if used for short journeys as it will collect water. Engine components can wear more quicky on short journeys as they do not warm up. Lots of short journeys on rough country roads cause far more wear on suspension components than long journeys on a motorway. Brake disks will rust if not subjected to decent use. Some low mileage cars will be bad, some good. Some high mileage cars will be good, some bad. It all depends on the nature of the usage. You do like to post crass simplistic arguments that are fulll of hyperbole, and which basically say that other people are thick and you are clever. Well, if it makes you happy.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - John F

I think this so-called 'conventional wisdom' is actually nonsense. .... A car is a machine, not an animal, so 'age' does not 'wear it out'. .... My TR7 is 39 years old but has done only 70,000 miles. Most of its parts are original, none are particularly worn, even the rubbery bits.

An exhaust is a good example of something that will wear out more quickly if used for short journeys as it will collect water.

Not so much these days, the metal is better. Our Focus exhaust (often short journeys) is 18yrs old, my TR7 exhaust (SS from Rimmer's) is 26yrs old.

Engine components can wear more quicky on short journeys as they do not warm up.

Again, these days engines warm up very quickly as most are small. Also, modern oil is much better than it used to be.

Lots of short journeys on rough country roads cause far more wear on suspension components than long journeys on a motorway. Brake disks will rust if not subjected to decent use.

Obviously.

You do like to post crass simplistic arguments that are fulll of hyperbole, and which basically say that other people are thick and you are clever. Well, if it makes you happy.

Hyperbole..'exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.'

Crass ...'showing no intelligence or sensitivity.'

I don't know what I have said to offend you, Leif, but you clearly have a bee on your bonnet about my contributions about which you frequently take umbrage. Perhaps you are thicker than me. Does it matter? (Apart from the propensity of the intellectually challenged to continue to believe stuff that isn't true - which does matter.)

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Leif

Hyperbole..'exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.'

Crass ...'showing no intelligence or sensitivity.'

I don't know what I have said to offend you, Leif, but you clearly have a bee on your bonnet about my contributions about which you frequently take umbrage. Perhaps you are thicker than me. Does it matter? (Apart from the propensity of the intellectually challenged to continue to believe stuff that isn't true - which does matter.)

You are a very rude and arrogant man,

Edited by Leif on 24/01/2019 at 18:58

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Avant

"....company car drivers who cared not one iota for their car's well-being."

But there are many very low mileage drivers who care equally little, unlike yourself, John.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Metropolis.

I've long been tempted by one of these for a cheap runabout with a little bit of character to it. Can't seem to find out what autoboxes are in these though, if it's an old 4 speed then great, CVT not so much - only personal preference!

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - andrew bairsto

Its an old 4 speed superb cars. my wife and myself have had three she now has a Suzuki I cannot tell the difference.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - Avant

Indeed, Andrew. The Lancer has never been a car to excite, but it has given a lot of satisfaction over the years.

This must be the first time that a Lancer has led to comments like 'you are thicker than me' and 'you are a rude and arrogant man'.

Any more like that and the thread closes.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - John F

This must be the first time that a Lancer has led to comments like 'you are thicker than me' .........

Taken out of context it reads like a personal insult, which it wasn't. It was a response to a derogatory post of a personal nature.

and 'you are a rude and arrogant man'.

This is clearly nothing more or less than a personal insult (you missed out the 'very', Avant) and should have been removed. I reported it as offensive yesterday. (And it's nothing to do with a Lancer! )

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - andrew bairsto

For all the doubters and people with little knowledge, I have had three Mitsubishi Lancers non of which were evos all with the uprated dashboard all between 2005 and 2007 when the new model was introduced.What you have been looking at is old stock.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

For all the doubters and people with little knowledge, I have had three Mitsubishi Lancers non of which were evos all with the uprated dashboard all between 2005 and 2007 when the new model was introduced.What you have been looking at is old stock.

I'm guessing that "people with little knowledge" is aimed at me?. I don't actually need an in depth knowledge of any particular car to be able to go on Autotrader and/or Ebay and look at pictures of them. You keep on saying the same thing, but without anything to back up what you are saying.

On Ebay right now there are sixteen 2005-2007 Lancers. Of those, ten are EVO's, of the remaining five, four are 1.6 petrols (as per what the post is about), either saloon or estate, the remaining car being a 2.0 sport estate. Other than the EVO's, only the 2.0 sport has the dash layout you refer to.

On Autotrader, having more options for narrowing down the search (i.e, ruling out the 2.0 cars), there are fifteen (1.6 litre) 2005-2007 Lancers. Of these, one does not have a picture of the dashboard, two don't have any pictures, but the remaining twelve all have the same dashboard layout of the low mileage example this post is about.

BTW, if we widen the search to include 2008 Lancers of the older shape, in both Ebay and Autotrader the results are exactly the same.

So, (as someone "with little knowledge") what this tells me (unless you can prove otherwise) is that ALL 1.6 Lancers have the same dashboard with the single DIN slot and the higher set heater controls. The only ones which have the dual DIN slot with lower heater controls are the EVO's, and (as far as i can tell, given that there is only the one listed on Autotrader and Ebay, the same one that is) apparently, the 2.0 sport.

Perhaps it is not me who is lacking in subject knowledge?.

Edited by badbusdriver on 26/01/2019 at 11:58

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - KB.

If I may poke my nose in unannounced, my suggestion to badbusdriver is that it's pointless pursuing the matter with the gentleman in question. When he was here previously (with his current username, or any number of other nomenclatures, he followed much the same type of approach to topics. He went away for quite a while .... but must have missed the place, and seems to be back. For the sake of a quiet life just agree that he's right and leave it at that.

Mitsubishi Lancer - Very low mileage car - badbusdriver

If I may poke my nose in unannounced, my suggestion to badbusdriver is that it's pointless pursuing the matter with the gentleman in question. When he was here previously (with his current username, or any number of other nomenclatures, he followed much the same type of approach to topics. He went away for quite a while .... but must have missed the place, and seems to be back. For the sake of a quiet life just agree that he's right and leave it at that.

You are probably right KB!, but I'm OK with it. It amuses me and gives me something to do (on this horrible day, certainly up here in Aberdeenshire!)