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- groaver
"Everyone with a brain who reads the forums you have linked to knows this very well...."

Ooof! A bit harsh.
- Palcouk
A case of peoples buying blind having believed the JLR, MB,BMW, VAG PR myths
Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - marinipersonal

Problem is that most SUVs to return acceptable mpg, are diesel. And most of the SUVs are used for school run or other short trips. A fatal combination.

When I decided for my CX5, the only reason for choose a diesel is because, at the time, a petrol automatic wasn't available. But to minimize the problems, my shortest trips are 10-12 miles, always drive until the regeneration finishes, and using only Shell V-Power.

A lot of requirements, right? Well, that's the price for driving a diesel nowdays.

And for someone driving less than 10-12k miles per years, a heavy 2.0 or 3.0 diesel won't be much more cheaper than a 2.0 petrol mid-sized vehicle. If instead my £40 weekly fuel bill I had to spend £60, an extra £1000 per year still reasonable, considering the maintenance costs and the inicial price.

So if someone buys a huge SUV, diesel, just to drive down 2 blocks to Waitrose or the School. too bad. You have more money than common sense.

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - K99
I agree but the problem is that most people don’t have a clue what the difference is between a petrol and diesel engine apart from you have to use different pump and never read any instructions.
They may know you get better mpg from a diesel but that’s about it.

All they know about a particular car for sale is what the salesman told them.
How many salesman on commission and incentives are going to tell a customer to buy a cheaper petrol version when they can make more on a diesel. Nevermind when they have a forecourt full of diesels that nobody wants to buy since diesel-gate.
In summary many manufacturers have failed to make reliable Diesel engines that meet the later emissions legislation and dealers are lying to customers about their suitability.
- Max Gomila
'Firstly, every vehicle engine needs an oil and filter change at least every year or every 10,000 miles whatever the manufacturer may say.'

That isn't always the case. It depends on the engine, the engine oil and the way the car is used.

Some cars might need to have an oil change every 6 months/5,000 miles. Some cars might manage 20,000 miles/24 months before an oil change is needed.
Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Colin Thompson
'Firstly, every vehicle engine needs an oil and filter change at least every year or every 10,000 miles whatever the manufacturer may say.' That isn't always the case. It depends on the engine, the engine oil and the way the car is used. Some cars might need to have an oil change every 6 months/5,000 miles. Some cars might manage 20,000 miles/24 months before an oil change is needed.

He said AT LEADT ..(I.e) minimum requirements.. Therefore these may have to be more frequent but not less..

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Engineer Andy

For a modern car, other than a supercar, will not need a service at less than 10k miles or 1 year. I can understand that for some cars that are well over 20 years old (I remember looking at a mid 90s petrol Civic that required services every 6k/1yr min.

If I was doing a LOT of driving - say over 40k miles pa, even in a diesel and mkost of it motorway miles, I would, if it were my own car, seriously consider at least getting the oil and filter changed every 5-6k in between 'normal' service intervals, just to keep the car in tip-top condition.

In the grand scheme of things, an intermediate oil change, even in the UK where its relatively expensive compared to North America and more affluent parts of Asia, is well worth it for well-used cars or high-end/rare ones you want to keep long term - they'll give far less trouble (assuming they don't rot [eventually]) if you do. That's why, despite many of their cars being of poor quality (IMHO) many US-designed and built cars regularly run to several 000k miles no problem. Much cheaper to keep them well oiled with quality stuff than have to suddenly fork out £5k - £20k for a new or reconditioned engine for your beloved motor.

- LR Owner
This is not just short journeys. Google "JLRP00100" to locate a download of JLR's own SCN document. Or use this link on page 22 of a very long thread on the subject in the owners forum.
www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=53...5
- Chris C
Doors all fin - this is ridiculous for such a new model. Is the doorskin available separately? Is there a similar/superceded/superceding part number which could be used - often part numbers change with very little real difference, eg a hole being moved, which a good bodyshop could adapt. What about a door off a frontal damaged/salvage car - ideally the same colour - could be a cheaper repair. Sounds like the dealer is incompetent/not trying hard enough. Possibly a good reason to have a Toyota next time - in my experience their parts are available for years after production ceases.
- peed
Peed
Do any cars have a dpf regeneration warning?
My 2014 Peugeot 508 sw rxh which is diesel /hybrid has a warning message that comes up when regenerating the dpf...hence I keep engine running until it is finished....why aren't other manafucters doing similar?
Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - marinipersonal

If I'm driving steady speed and pace, flat road, if the instant mpg drops to 20's or less, without reason, a regen is happening. As you expect the person driving the car daily can feel the engine a bit heavier, easy to spot. For sure a warning light would be better, but just imagine the queue of LRs and Q7s at the dealers when such warning pops out? People don't read manuals, don't use common sense. At least I hope the electric cars would somehow simplify the ownership of a vehicle. One can only hope.

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Marcus T.

If my current CRV does an active DPF regen, it is almost impossible for the normal motorist to tell. I don't do short runs and have only noticed mine doing it twice in the three years I have had mine. I was a car mechanic for over twenty years. If people own vehicles that require more frequent oil changes then do them yourself. It's not rocket science and a couple of cans of decent oil and a filter won't break the bank.

Edited by MARK L. on 31/07/2018 at 13:54

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - marinipersonal

I agree, but I must understand his position.

People walk in a LR, Mercedes, BMW or Audi dealership and ask for the biggest vehicle they can buy to impress the neighbors or the other mums at the school run. When they notice that such behemoth needs at least a V6 petrol for decent pace and refinement, they choose the diesel, because they are too clever and truly believe that they'll save money.

So... when they have to change oil 3, 4, or even more times per year, or eventually had a engine fail, the so clever choice for a diesel doesn't look likely.

Then they decide to ask HJ, expecting his support to fight back the dealer/manufacturer.

At every occasion when my partner visits the Mercedes dealer, it's so much BS said by them, and even being ridiculous, guess who someone loyal to the brand listens? Correct, the salesman who advise a flashy AMG low profile for a long commuter driver, who insists that a vibrating noise from the dashboard when the air con is on is "characteristic of that model", and so go on. As it isn't my money, I try my best to don't laugh.

Sorry, but no sympathy. I just bought a diesel, drive 12k miles per year, but no shorter than 10-12 miles per trip. Let all regens complete, allow the increased rev (when starting the engine) to complete (Mazda feature in 2.2D CX-5), spend extra on Vpower diesel, and check the oil every week. Previously driving a 1.8TSI Leon, the requirements were minimal, but choices. Live with them.

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Engineer Andy

Today is the era of people who are lazy/stupid and don't do their homework when buying a car, because for many they are a fashion item. And they wonder why they have no money half the time or are deep in debt...

- jchinuk
Re Keeping the family in it, your point on space is well made, a relative baby (under 12 months) had a BMW Series 1 hatchback, found it too small once the child arrived, borrowed a Nissan Juke, still too small, now drives an X Trail. I'm sure I didn't come with as many accessories...
Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - RafflesNH

"Ooof! A bit harsh."

I have started to notice an increasing trend towards irascibility from HJ, I must admit. Could it be a spot of angina setting in? ;-)

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Engineer Andy

"Ooof! A bit harsh."

I have started to notice an increasing trend towards irascibility from HJ, I must admit. Could it be a spot of angina setting in? ;-)

I think he's starting to get fed up with people who continually write to him about issues with:

  • VAGs, especially dieselgate-related or DSG twin clutch boxes;
  • Fords with similar problems to the DSG - generally people who think that twin clutch 'auto' gearboxes can be used in slow moving traffic without reliability penalty, when they were designed for performance use at decent speeds and not in heavy, slow-moving traffic jams;
  • JLR diesel cars or 4x4s generally bought for fashion reasons or shod on low profile summer tyres that get stuck in light snowy conditions when, for the most part, a standard FWD car shod on 55 profile or above decent all-season or (when required) winter tyres would do better;
  • People who STILL buy diesel-powered cars for use on predominantly short urban trips from cold and then whose cars suffer from continual DPF and oil related issues;
  • Tales of woe after completely believing the sale hype at the dealership or 'official mpg figures' and why they should only be used to relatively compare cars only, not what you'll get once you buy it, and why they should get their money back even though a short bit of (easy) research would've saved them from all the grief.

I think he is starting to believe he's talking to a proverbial brick wall. He's not the only one either - we on the forums are seeing more and more of these idiots, plus many of the 'I want to buy a 10-15yo German sports saloon for peanuts' thinking it'll be a 'safe buy' and 'cheap to run' for their average to low annual, urban mileage, especially if its a diesel, as it gives better mpg than a petrol engine...(and they haven't budgeted for repairs, insurance, yadda yadda).

Its like the nation has got more stupid in the last 20 years. I can see why so many professionals (like myself) and comfortably-off over 50s are emigrating in such large numbers, especially if so many of those under 40 think the likes of JC (no, not Clarkson, the OTHER ONE) are the second coming.

Honest John’s Motoring Agony Column 28-07-2018 Part 2 - Marcus T.

Well said Andy.

- HairyJones
Every week, without fail, we read of horror stories of VW and Audi cars yet the general public still believe in all the rubbish about German car reliability and quality. When will we Brits ever learn?
Incidentally we hardly hear of these stories from Skoda or Seat owners, even though the cars are virtually identical except for the styling. Audi's are even made in Skoda factories. Is it because they are truly better than VW and Audi cars, or is it because the owners are so ashamed that they do not want to publicise their car problems?
My worst ever car was a Passat which nearly killed me when the fuel shutoff valve failed on the motorway and which spend half it's life in the VW garage. I went to Honda and Toyota since then and 20 years later had never experienced a problem except having to replace a air conditioning high pressure pipe! My current Toyota Avensis is 11 years old and 135,000 miles on the clock, gives me 55 mpg and still on original battery, clutch and exhaust. Never missed a beat and still runs like new.