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Some great tips there, thanks.
Re: deposit - I haven't signed anything and I haven't seen the car or test driven it yet, only paid the deposit over the phone by credit card. As far as I'm aware the deposit is fully refundable if I change my mind before I sign anything and pay the outstanding balance.
Re: Warranty and service history - The car is less than 1 year old and therefore I suspect it won't have had a service yet so no history to check? Although I'm guessing I'll need to get it serviced by September this year to comply with the warranty. Given this, is there anything else I would need to check in terms of the paperwork to make sure there are no warranty issues further down the line?
My thinking about trying to justify going for the newer / lower mileage car is that although it costs £2.5k more (before any possible discount), the true )longer term) cost will be much less when you factor in:
- 6 months longer warranty for the newer car, which will add a little to the re-sell value.
- replacement wear and tear item costs. The ex-rental car is likely to need new tyres etc probably within the next year or 2 given the 9.5k miles done. I'm only going to do 3-5k miles per year, so if I bought the newer car I might actually avoid many of these wear and tear replacement costs altogether even if I kept the car for 4-5+ years.
The newer car is also lower risk and less likely to give me any hassles further down the line.
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“Re: deposit - I haven't signed anything and I haven't seen the car or test driven it yet, only paid the deposit over the phone by credit card. As far as I'm aware the deposit is fully refundable if I change my mind before I sign anything and pay the outstanding balance.”
There would be no point in taking a deposit if that were the case. A deposit is to hold you to the deal even though in this case it’s a verbal contract rather than on paper. If you’re not 100% sure then don’t pay a deposit. Yes you may get it back but you’ll more likely than not have a battle on your hands. Sales staff should never tell you a deposit is refundable, managers are always spitting fire over this when a customer changes their mind and wants their cash back. In their eyes a deposit means a done deal.
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Slightly going off on a tangent from where I was hoping to go with this, but in response to the deposit issue. Quote directly from MP website:
"What happens if I change my mind?
If you are not happy with your car at the point of collection, and no longer want to proceed with your purchase, we will refund your deposit."
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cheaper than AC
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But those are still more expensive than Motorpoint (£16k for the 67 plate SE Nav 1.6 petrol, 9.5k, ex-rental).
It's more a question of whether it's worth paying more (~£2.5k) for a newer version (6 months) which has only done delivery mileage (10 miles in the one I put in the original post) and hasn't went through the wear and tear associated with ex-rental. Thinking in terms of repair and maintenance costs over the next few years, even though I will only do 3-5k miles per year.
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autotrader has del mls 18 reg for £17k - £1500 less than AC but £1,000 more than MP but is a brand spanking pre reg
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autotrader has del mls 18 reg for £17k - £1500 less than AC but £1,000 more than MP but is a brand spanking pre reg
Those must be the S and SE models, not the SE Nav, which is what I'm interested in and comparing (they've got reversing camera, sat nav and some other nicer spec items)
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If OP were looking to trade in the car in next two years there might be some gain from going for new one.
Five years and another 60k miles on I don't think there'd be much difference.
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I've changed my mind after paying a Motorpoint deposit before, and they really do refund. Initially they gave me a credit note to use against something else, but after I'd not found anything I wanted after a couple of months a cheque arrived in the post without me asking.
My local Enterprise had a huge number of Tucsons in their fleet six months back, and it was pretty much what turned up as default when requesting a group D car. My only concern is that the mileage is a bit low for an ex-hire car. From experience of having hire cars off them, Enterprise like to get their money's worth out of their cars, passing them from one customer to the next with the engine still warm, so it seems odd it's been moved on before the usual 12k miles when it's still less than a year old. Would be worth asking Motorpoint directly if it's been repaired after an accident.
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My local Enterprise had a huge number of Tucsons in their fleet six months back, and it was pretty much what turned up as default when requesting a group D car. My only concern is that the mileage is a bit low for an ex-hire car. From experience of having hire cars off them, Enterprise like to get their money's worth out of their cars, passing them from one customer to the next with the engine still warm, so it seems odd it's been moved on before the usual 12k miles when it's still less than a year old. Would be worth asking Motorpoint directly if it's been repaired after an accident.
Apparently MP bought a whole batch of cars at <10k miles, which stacks up when you look at the other Tucson's for sale on their website. There are plenty <10k, although still many above this as well.
As the car I put a depsoit on is close to 10k miles, I think I'd pretty much need to get it serviced asap in order to comply with the Hyuandai warranty, which is an immediate expense I wouldn't have to pay for another 9 months with the newer car (18 plate delivery mileage). I thinks it's every 12 months or 10k miles it needs serviced (give or take ~500-600 miles) for the warranty.
Factoring this in as well as other wear and tear expenses I wouldn't otherwise need to think about for a while, or at all, (I'm only going to do 3-5k per year), that £2.5k price gap is starting to diminish to make the newer car seem like a better option. Especially with the lower risk of buying the effectively new car, plus the bonus of that new car feel!
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I’d see what sort of deal is on the table with Arnold Clark, using the cheaper MP car as a motivator. They might surprise you but typically they’re not overly generous with discount or part ex. You don’t get if you don’t try...
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I’d see what sort of deal is on the table with Arnold Clark, using the cheaper MP car as a motivator. They might surprise you but typically they’re not overly generous with discount or part ex. You don’t get if you don’t try...
I've tried this with a few AC dealers and the consensus seems to be a possible discount of £100-£200, but not much more budge. I might push for some freebies, like new car mats, extra fuel, free service etc to see if that works. Seems disappointingly hard work trying to get them to negotiate on anything!
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Slightly going off on a tangent from where I was hoping to go with this, but in response to the deposit issue. Quote directly from MP website:
"What happens if I change my mind?
If you are not happy with your car at the point of collection, and no longer want to proceed with your purchase, we will refund your deposit."
Fair enough if this particular firm has this policy, though it does make taking a deposit a rather pointless exercise when the customer can simply declare the car isn’t for them. We’ve personal experience from Skidpan to back it up too. But for anyone reading please ensure you have this in writing or can point to an online declaration as above before putting a deposit on anything you’re not 100% sure of. 99 time’s out of 100 you won’t get it back without a titanic battle. I know that any firm I’ve ever worked for would regard a deposit as binding with the only chance of a refund being that it could be used against another car within stock. The above experience from Skidpan is not the norm but is certainly a positive thing regarding MP.
Edited by SLO76 on 28/05/2018 at 22:00
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Have you tried Carwow to see if you can get a brand new example for the sameish price? Ive recently had a quote for a Sportage 1.6GDI '2' (the same spec, as far as I can see, as your SE Nav) - the best quote was £18.191 if you used their PCP.
Edited by DieselBoy on 28/05/2018 at 23:23
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Have you tried Carwow to see if you can get a brand new example for the sameish price? Ive recently had a quote for a Sportage 1.6GDI '2' (the same spec, as far as I can see, as your SE Nav) - the best quote was £18.191 if you used their PCP.
I did check them out and the prices looked good if going for PCP, not that good if not going for it. I'm paying by cash (or rather credit card with 0% deal for 28-30 months). I guess you'd need to factor in the cost of finance by going with PCP which could make it less attractive depending on your finance options.
I also like the flexibility of owning it in case my circimstances change and need to increase my mileage or look for a different car etc at some point down the line.
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Have you tried Carwow to see if you can get a brand new example for the sameish price? Ive recently had a quote for a Sportage 1.6GDI '2' (the same spec, as far as I can see, as your SE Nav) - the best quote was £18.191 if you used their PCP.
I did check them out and the prices looked good if going for PCP, not that good if not going for it. I'm paying by cash (or rather credit card with 0% deal for 28-30 months). I guess you'd need to factor in the cost of finance by going with PCP which could make it less attractive depending on your finance options.
I also like the flexibility of owning it in case my circimstances change and need to increase my mileage or look for a different car etc at some point down the line.
It’s worth checking to se3 if you can pay off the PCP immediately, and hence get the discount but pay th3 equivalent of cash. But make sure they allow paying it off with a credit card.
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Have you tried Carwow to see if you can get a brand new example for the sameish price? Ive recently had a quote for a Sportage 1.6GDI '2' (the same spec, as far as I can see, as your SE Nav) - the best quote was £18.191 if you used their PCP.
I did check them out and the prices looked good if going for PCP, not that good if not going for it. I'm paying by cash (or rather credit card with 0% deal for 28-30 months). I guess you'd need to factor in the cost of finance by going with PCP which could make it less attractive depending on your finance options.
I also like the flexibility of owning it in case my circimstances change and need to increase my mileage or look for a different car etc at some point down the line.
It’s worth checking to se3 if you can pay off the PCP immediately, and hence get the discount but pay th3 equivalent of cash. But make sure they allow paying it off with a credit card.
That might be a good shout, hadn't even thought of that.
One offer of £17,973 from carwow with PCP (4.9%) which includes first year road tax (£140) and Includes an additional finance deposit contribution from Hyundai of £2,500.
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Fair enough if this particular firm has this policy, though it does make taking a deposit a rather pointless exercise when the customer can simply declare the car isn’t for them. We’ve personal experience from Skidpan to back it up too. But for anyone reading please ensure you have this in writing or can point to an online declaration as above before putting a deposit on anything you’re not 100% sure of. 99 time’s out of 100 you won’t get it back without a titanic battle. I know that any firm I’ve ever worked for would regard a deposit as binding with the only chance of a refund being that it could be used against another car within stock. The above experience from Skidpan is not the norm but is certainly a positive thing regarding MP.
Think you have me confused with another poster. Only bought one car from Motorpoint, an imported pre reg. Paid deposit over the phone but on collection there was a parking dent on the drivers door. They agreed to fix it with collection 2 days later. Went as arranged and car had been sorted. No arguements at all.
Kept it nearly 6 years.
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Apologies Skidpan, glasses now on. It was SkodaIan who posted it.
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If you can wait a few weeks, and if AC have several in the trim you want, it might be worth hanging on to see if they have a sale in July / Aug before the new reg comes out. We bought our pre-reg C4 Picasso from them in Feb - they had the pre-reg ones marked down by £2k (making it near £8k off list!).
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