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Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Dansworth

Hi,

The other day I stupidly put about 100ml of screenwash in the brakefluid reservoir before realising my mistake (early morning/new car!). I didn’t think much of it and drove to work. Googled it, found out it’s pretty dangerous, so booked it in for a brake fluid flush and replacement the next morning. Overall, I probably drove about 12-15 miles with the brakefluid ‘contaminated'.

Should a flush and replacement be enough to correct the issue? Obviously brakes are something that shouldn’t be messed with, so want to make sure I’ve done it right.

Cheers.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - dieselnut

If you think about it, screenwash will be mainly water which is heavier than brake fluid ( oil based ).

So it would have sunk straight to the bottom of the resovoir, some would have been absorbed by the hygroscopic brake fluid.

Then with each application of the brake i'm fairly sure it would have gone straight into the master cylinder below.

Then again with each brake aplication it would have been forced down each brake pipe.

When it gets to the wheel calipers again it would fall to the bottom of the caliper cylinder & not out of the bleed nipple which is always located at the highest point.

Think you will need to get all the brake system stripped, cleaned & pipes flushed to be sure it is all removed.

Brake resovoirs also sometimes share it's fluid with the clutch, so that might be affected as well.

Edited by dieselnut on 22/03/2018 at 11:02

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - John F

Don't worry - after such a short distance hardly any will have found its way along the pipes all the way down to the pistons. The 'brake flush' will actually flush it down there before it is removed! I would obtain a thin tube and syphon as much as you can out of the reservoir, then top up to the minimum with presumably dot4 fluid before you flush it through the bleed nipples. Don't be conned into unnecessary master and slave cylinder overhaul!

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - hardway

Water is what kills brake parts,

Brake fluid is hygroscopic so it actually "likes" water,

The steel components of the system don't

they rust.

But the brake system doesnt actually move fluid down into say a calliper.

It tries to move fluid and it's by nature incompressible.

I saw it once decsribed as a liquid lever

So the contaminated fliud in the res most likely was confined there.

I would empty and dry the res then refill and bleed all the brakes to flush and bleed free of air.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - dieselnut

The OP wrote in his first post " The other day I stupidly put about 100ml of screenwash in the brakefluid reservoir " THEN " so booked it in for a brake fluid flush and replacement the next morning "

So when the fluid flush was done it would have distributed the screenwash throughout the braking system.

Water being heavier than brake fluid would fall to the bottom of any component ie slave cylinders & not exit via the bleed nipple.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - gordonbennet

I agree with full bleeding of the system after completely draining the master cylinder, that could be bled on its own by disconnecting the outflows so any screenwash in that master cyl doesn't end up in the calipers, and i would bleed the system again in a few weeks time, in case any screen wash has managed to avoid the previous flush through.

As Dieselnut says, it might not be that easy to get the stuff out the calipers if it gets there because the bleed nipples are at the top in order to assist expelling air, not fluid contiminated by something else, so extended pressure flushing would be my suggestion, i'd also be inclined to drain the brake pipes by disconnecting the lines at the last junction before each caliper, to less the chances of the stuff getting into them.

I would take action asap.

edit, if this happened on my own car i would retract and clamp each caliper piston down into its bore so the absloute minimum of space for brake fluid would be available in each caliper, that would make expulsion of the stuff more likely, its quite involved time wise but it's a relatively simple operation and only involves a G clamp or two.

Edited by gordonbennet on 22/03/2018 at 15:58

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - galileo

I'd wonder why the reservoir needed a100ml top up in the first place?

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Andrew-T

I'd wonder why the reservoir needed a100ml top up in the first place?

I assumed the OP thought he was topping up the screenwash .... ?

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Big John

100ml is a lot to top up a master cylinder resevoir by (it doesn't hold much) - is there another brake issue causing a leak?

As previouly mentioned if it has been pushed through the system it may be lurking in places especially ABS unit.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Gibbo_Wirral

I agree. I've not seen a Volvo brake fluid reservoir, although they always seem to look like this:

cdn4.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Volvo-C30/09-BR...G

The difference between min and max levels is very small, so I'd also find it strange how it would easily drink 100ML.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - bathtub tom

I presumed the OP meant to top up the windscreen washer reservoir and put it in the brake fluid reservoir by mistake.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - galileo

I presumed the OP meant to top up the windscreen washer reservoir and put it in the brake fluid reservoir by mistake.

Shouldn't have been room for 100ml in a brake/clutch fluid reservoir unless there had been a substantial leak somewhere.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - edlithgow

I'd think they'd be completely miscible, so I doubt all this stuff about the washer fluid settling or sinking really applies, except perhaps temporarily.

This could be tested in a shot glass or similar, if you had any spare brake fluid, though the OP probably doesn't.

If this happened on my car, and assuming say, my gf had booked it into a garage so I had no idea what had actually been done, I'd use my 60ml enema syringe to empty the brake fluid reservoir, then I'd drain the rest of the system under gravity, then I'd back flush through each bleed nipple until brake fluid re-appeared in the reservoir, cycling it in and out say three times. I'd do this three times for each nipple. Then I'd refill and bleed the system.

With an ABS car (which I have no experience of so I'm making this up) draining the system completely is probably troublesome so I'd skip that bit.

Brake fluid is cheap (especially DOT3 which I'd use in preference to DOT 4 assuming this was approved for the car) , brake systems are not.

OP could be worse. If you'd put brake fluid in your screen washer you might need a new paint job.

Edited by edlithgow on 24/03/2018 at 04:21

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Andrew-T

I'd think they'd be completely miscible, so I doubt all this stuff about the washer fluid settling or sinking really applies, except perhaps temporarily.

OP could be worse. If you'd put brake fluid in your screen washer you might need a new paint job.

As screenwash is (or was) mostly isopropanol it probably is miscible with the high-boiling esters in brake fluid, unless that is the silicone stuff (unlikely). So hoping it will remain separate may be forlorn. But using the brakes for a few miles is not likely to push the mixture far down the pipework.

As to brake fluid being paint stripper, I'm not sure, but it probably isn't a good idea.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - edlithgow

Not sure what's in screenwash but I thought it was probably mostly water with some ethanol, and/or isopropanol, and/or ethylene glycol as a solvent/antifreeze.

IIRC brake fluid is mostly a glycol ether. Its a good solvent, and certainly damages paint when spilled on it undiluted. I suppose it might destroy the pump in a windscreen washer before it got a chance to destroy the paintwork.

It makes a good carburettor cleaner, and since it is water miscible you can follow-up with a wash in hot laundry detergent.

I've heard some people use it as a piston soak to free up stuck rings as part of a decoke, which makes sense, though I havn't tried it.

Volvo c30 - Screenwash in brake fluid - Big John

Brake fluid can damage paint badly but it depends on the paint! - I remember the days of Triumph Heralds and Spitfires where the brake and clutch master cylinders were mounted on a painted horizontal surface - some had evidence of stripped paint from spills!

Edited by Big John on 25/03/2018 at 23:48